Now after sometime I joined company Y rather than joining company X and I met this girl B who is also a Maharashtrian girl, best friend of girl A and my dearest friend till date. This girl B knew about the incident obviously from the source(Girl A). She told me that girl A never wanted to talk to me again in life because I SHOOK HANDS WITH HER in the first meeting.
过了一段时间后,我选择加入了Y公司而不是X公司,我遇到了女孩B,她也是马哈拉施特拉邦女孩,她是女孩A最好的朋友,也是我迄今为止最好的朋友。女孩B很明显从女孩A那里得知了那件事,她告诉我女孩A一辈子都不想和我说话,因为第一次见面我就和她握了手。
Can you really believe it? I mean, I grew up with girls and studied in Co-Ed schools so it was very natural for me to shake hands. Isn't it weird or sort of conservative to hate someone because of a shake hand?
你敢相信吗?竟然是因为握手。我的意思是,从小身边就有女孩一起玩耍,也在男女同校的学校学习,所以我很自然地就和她们握手。因为握手而讨厌一个人,是不是有点奇怪或保守啊?
And it is just one incident I am penning down, I had other 4-5 similar incidents which would take up a lot of space.
这只是其中一件事,还有其他4-5个类似事件我就赘述了,会占用很多空间。
Why I told you all this? Because these incidents have shaped my perception about Maharashtrian girls too. And like Gauri Noolkar mentioned, in my case they had nothing to do with Smoking, drinking and pre-marital sex. They are just simple routinely incidents that accumulated to make such perspective.
我为什么要说这些呢?因为这些事件塑造了我对马哈拉施特拉邦女孩的看法。就像Gauri Noolkar提到的那样,她们与吸烟、饮酒和婚前性行为无关。
Nevertheless,later in my life after that incident, I had some amazing experiences with Maharashtrian girls too, two of them are my best friends till date, they are extremely intelligent and caring and I have learnt a lot from them about life in general.
然而,后来我也和马哈拉施特拉邦的女孩们有过一些奇妙的经历,其中有两个是至今都是我最好的朋友,她们非常聪明和体贴,我从她们身上学到了很多关于生活的知识。
So, I had experiences which gave me a balanced perspective not to generalize things. May be the questioner hadn't. Obviously, there could be multiple reasons for one's action and they cannot be generalized for a whole community or ethnicity. After all, India is a big country.
所以,我的经历给了我一个平衡的视角,而不是一概而论。也许提问者没有这种经历。很明显,一个人的行为可能有多种原因,但它们不可能适用于整个社群或种族。毕竟,印度是一个大国。
But, I expect people not to bash someone because of the question he/she has asked. We all have preconceived notions about something or the other.
但是,我希望人们不要因为某人提出的问题而痛斥他/她。我们都对某件事有先入为主的观念。
@Questioner, stop generalizing things because of your past experiences, there are lot of wonderful Maharashtrian girls out there, try to be friends with them, they will teach you a lot of things in life and that will certainly change your perspective towards them.
I hope I have answered your question.
@提问者,不要因为你过去的经历而一概而论,有很多很棒的马哈拉施特拉邦女孩,试着和她们做朋友,她们会教你很多生活中的事情,这肯定会改变你对她们的看法。
Rohit Iyer, Worked in RB for 4+ years now. Infinite rewards this company has given me.
Definitely do not agree with this question.
绝对不同意这个看法。
I have lived in Mumbai for 22 years and have found that:-
我在孟买生活了22年,有以下发现:
- Most Marathi girls are knowledgeable about Hindu cultures and readily boycott the superstitions and loopholes which certain parties heavily exploit. This of course has to apply more aptly to girls who are educated enough. But atleast the educated don't follow unworthy dogmas.
大多数马拉地女孩对印度教文化很了解,她们倾向于抵制某些政党大肆利用的迷信和漏洞。当然,这更适用于受过良好教育的女孩,至少受过教育的人不会遵循不值得遵循的教条。
- This isn't to insult girls of other cultures. Typically in north and south women are forced into the dogmas. This is irrespective of the educational background of the parents. But the same you would not see so much in Maharashtrian families. Marathi girls are given more freedom to understand and co-relate to the pros of the culture and given the necessary authority to reject the cons. This again depends on how much educated the parents are.
这并不是侮辱其他地区的女孩。一般来说,北方和南方的妇女都被迫信奉教条。这与父母的教育背景无关。但同样的情况在马哈拉施特拉邦的家庭中并不多见。马拉地女孩被赋予更多的自由去理解和认同文化的优点,并被赋予必要的权力去拒绝缺点,这同样取决于父母的教育程度。
- Marathi girls are also more sociable and open to debate if made to do so. Yet very rarely do you see marathi girls doing any of the unwarranted habits like smoking or drinking. There will always be some exceptions but that exsts everywhere.
马拉地女孩也更善于交际和辩论。然而,你很少看到马拉地女孩有任何不当的习惯,比如抽烟或喝酒。虽然总会有一些例外,但例外无处不在。
- But the most important and this is a big one is that after Tambram girls, Its the maharashtrian girls who would most oppose quitting their jobs just because their fiance demands it or fiance's family demands it. In fact marathi girls would loathe anything of such sorts. This has to do with more of a individualistic propensity to a career based life but in other cultures especially of north of India, Many women show less resistance towards sacrificing their career instead of asking a settlement of any sorts. This includes educated ones as well.
但最重要的,马哈拉施特拉的女孩很反对仅仅因为未婚夫或未婚夫的家人的要求而放弃她们的工作。事实上,马拉地女孩厌恶这类事情。这与个人的事业心有关,但在其他地区,尤其是在印度北部,许多女性对牺牲职业表现出较少的抵触,甚至也包括受过教育的女性。
If these things don't qualify for being anti-conservative (especially in India) not sure what does.
如果这些都不符合“反保守”的标准(尤其是在印度),那就不知道什么才算“不保守”了。
- S:- This is just my views as an outsider and based on the people I have met, maybe the marathi mulgis can give the best Answer.
这只是我作为一个旁观者的观点,基于我所遇到的人,也许马拉地人可以给出最好的答案。
Gauri Noolkar, lived in India
Define conservative.
Do you mean they are conservative because the ones you know shun attributes like smoking, dressing boldly (scantily), drinking, partying late night, pre-marital sex, promiscuity?
I am confused.
Because Marathi girls have been among the first women from India to earn degrees and work as full time professionals (the first female doctor, the first female forensic analyst, for example, have been Marathi women)
take up arms against the British (Jhansi ki Rani)
-be single mothers, shun traditions in the face of society and travel the world alone (Pandita Ramabai Ranade).
And continue to
- earn and work for their families (and themselves).
- choose education, travel, independence over the 'ghoonghat', or dependence on some rich guy for providing for her her lipstick after marriage.
Or perhaps we differ in our definitions of conservatism and modernism.
何为保守?
你意思是因为她们不喜欢抽烟、穿着大胆(暴露)、喝酒、聚会到深夜、婚前性行为和滥交,就认为她们保守? 那我就不理解了。
马拉地女孩是印度第一批:
-获得学位并从事全职专业工作的女性(例如,第一位女医生、第一位女法医分析师都是马拉地女性)。
-拿起武器对抗英国(Jhansi ki Rani)
-做单身母亲,在社会面前避开传统,独自周游世界(Pandita Ramabai Ranade)。
-为家庭(和自己)挣钱和工作。
-选择教育、旅行、独立而不是依赖某个有钱人在婚后养她。
或许我们对保守主义和现代主义的定义不同。
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