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是“荒谬的”实验还是科学的“巨大飞跃”?

A 'monstrous' experiment or a huge leap for science? Experts condemn 'irresponsible' Chinese scientists who claim to have edited the DNA of twins to give them immunity to HIV

荒谬的”实验还是科学的“巨大飞跃?专家谴责“不负责任”的科学家,他们声称自己编辑了双胞胎的DNA,从而使对艾滋病毒免疫

Experts have slammed a team of scientists in China who claim to have altered the DNA of twins to grant them immunity to HIV, the AIDS virus.

专家们猛烈抨击了科学家团队,后者宣称更改了一对双胞胎的DNA,使们能够艾滋病毒免疫

Researchers from across the world have labelled the experiment 'irresponsible', with many calling into question the perverse moral and ethical implications.

世界各地的研究人员都认为这项实验是“不负责任的”,其中有很认为这有违道德和伦理。

One British scientist, who described the experiment as 'monstrous', said the researchers involved were playing 'genetic Russian Roulette' with healthy babies.

一位英国科学家称这个实验简直骇人听闻”,参与实验的研究人员正在和健康的婴儿玩“基因俄罗斯轮盘赌”。

Gene editing is banned in Britain, the US many other parts of the world, largely because its long-term effects on mental and physical health are poorly understood.

基因编辑在英国、美国以及很多国家都是被禁止的,主要原因是人们对基因编辑对身心健康的长期影响知之甚少。

The technique carries the risk that altered DNA will warp other genes - potentially dangerous mutations that may then be passed down to future generations.

这项技术存在风险,更改后DNA可能会影响基因——这种潜在的危险突变可能会遗传给下一代。

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译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/46598.html   译者:Jessica.Wu

外文:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-6429665/Experts-condemn-irresponsible-experiment-saw-scientists-edit-twins-DNA.html?tdsourcetag=s_pcqq_aiomsg

Jill E Shepherd, SURBITON, United Kingdom, 1 day ago

You should never edit DNA. It will lead to the creation of a half man, half beast (Devil, Minotaur) which is mentioned in the bible The Beast out of the earth.

决不能编辑DNA,否则将导致半人半兽(魔鬼,人身牛头怪)的诞生,就是圣经中提到野兽。

 

Observingfromuphigh, London, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

Not in the least surprised that China did this and I don't believe for a moment that China is the only one.

么干,我一点也不奇怪认为决不是唯一这样做的国家。

 

Cooper, Cambridge, 2 days ago

The only way to prove that the genetic alteration has given immunity against HIV is to deliberately subject them to the infection. THAT must surely be not only unethical but illegal?

唯一能证实基因更改对艾滋病毒有免疫力的方法就是刻意们受感染。这不仅不道德而且违法

 

Bleek24, Philadelphia, United States, 2 days ago

Part of the population is naturally immune to HIV. Because of this, they really aren't doing anything different than all of the other medical miracles of reproducing nature.

有些人天生对艾滋病毒免疫。所以他们这么做是让其他人拥有和这些人一样的天生免疫力,这么说来也无可厚非。

 

KhaledB, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 2 days ago

of course, it is monstrous for the pharma cartels

这对制药来说可怕了。

 

IndependentByDesign, Logicville, United States, 2 days ago

Governments have been manipulating DNA and cloning super soliders for years.

多年来,政府一直在操纵DNA和克隆超级战士

 

obe one, Hatfield, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

They used to get upset about heart transplants in th 1960s

在1960年代,他们对心脏移植手术感到不安

 

Tricia Cate, Colorado, United States, 2 days ago

Totally different. Heart transplants only affected one individual. This has the possibility of affecting many more.

@obe one二者完全不同。心脏移植只影响一个人,而基因编辑有可能影响到更多的人。

 

ed77, Eh, Canada, 2 days ago

The genie is out of the bottle, literally. Gene engineering can not map out all the unintended consequences that will mysteriously pop up. This is end of times sort of thing.

妖怪已经放出瓶子了。基因编辑会产生意想不到的后果,这可能会导致时代的终结。

 

PublicEye, English Countryside, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

This is what is being admitted - what else is being perpetrated we don't know of?

这也能获得批准?还有什么勾当是我们不知晓的?

 

reallyirresistible, West Coast, United States, 2 days ago

Look, we are appalled to hear scientists use animals to experiment on. Let alone babies! How many experiments do you think they have to do, and on whom, before this reported "success"?

科学家用动物做实验都让人觉得可怕,更不用说孩子!在获得所谓的“成功”之前,他们需要在人体上多少次实验?

 

Steppes, Peoples Republic of Cambridge, United States, 2 days ago

There are multiple reasons why the promise doesn't outweigh the risk because we really don't understand what the consequences will be i the short of long run....I can understand using these technologies on patients that are terminally ill but not on embryos or diseases that have other less risky medical controls..

弊大于利,我们不清楚短期或长期的影响。可以在绝症患者身上使用这些技术,但不应该在胚胎或其它风险较小的疾病上。

 

dolphingirl73, NYC, United States, 2 days ago

I hate everything about China. They are a horrible country on so many levels. I wouldn't visit there if you paid me.

我讨厌的一切,从很多层面上看,都是一个可怕的国家。就算给我钱,我不去那儿了。

 

du Vallon, East Coast, United States, 2 days ago

RoseKennedy, Everywhere;..."It never never never ends well. Dolly the sheep died within 6 months."... I read a long story about "Dolly". The number I seem to recall was that Dolly was the 130th attempt or something in that range. All the attempts before her were either still birth or born with debilitating genetic problems that resulted in death soon after birth. That's why such things are banned in humans. Can you imagine if these twins were the result of 100's of previous attempts? I work in biological science. It is simply impossible to imagine that they were successful on their first attempt. That simply never happens. They clearly have no controls over there.

不会有好结果。多利羊不到6个月死了我读了一篇关于“多利”的长篇文章。我记得多利经过130次尝试才成功的,可能天生就有虚弱的基因问题,导致出生后不久就死亡。所以这类东西被禁止是有原因的。这对双胞胎可能也是上百次尝试的结果从事生物科学方面的工,很少有尝试一次就成功了

 

HerlockGnomes, The City, United States, 2 days ago

Wealthy people will jump on board with this. 100 years from now the genetically modified children will have trees sprouting from their hair follicles, and bears growing from their nail-beds. A brave new world.

有钱人会欣然接受这一点。100年后,这些转基因儿童的毛囊里将会长出树枝,甲床上会长出熊。一个美丽的新世界即将诞生

 

Stardaily1088, New York, United States, 2 days ago

I bet they could cure half of everything if they were allowed to

我敢,如果允许的话,这种技术可以治愈半数疾病

 

Hanover Phist, Worcester, United States, 2 days ago

Congratulations!!! I hope this is a success for you I hope you will move to cure down syndrome & CF other debilitating genetic illnesses

恭喜! ! !希望这对你来说是一次成功,希望你用这种技术去治疗唐氏综合症和其它让人衰弱的基因疾病

 

Here reading this..., Someplace, United States, 2 days ago

Millions of abortions a year... but this upsets people... odd how that works!

每年有数百万人堕胎但这种实验大家都感到不安!奇怪的是,这是怎么做到的!

 

bonesunited, the_cemetery, 2 days ago

China in its ongoing quest to create superhumans. The problem will be getting the immune system to recognize the code without attacking it. Surely they knew this before subjecting these poor babies to this. And how will they test it? Probably by exposing these children to the virus and disease. Utterly unethical. I'm willing to bet the parents were also poor and uneducated but the government offered them something.

正在寻求创造超级人类。他们将如何测试免疫能力?可能是让这些孩子接触病毒和疾病,这太不道德。我敢打赌,孩子的父母很穷,没受过教育,但政府给了他们一些补偿

 

verdi, SouthEast, 2 days ago

Only non-humans would do such things to others.

只有非人类才会对别人做这种事。

 

aurora77, London, 2 days ago

It is not palatable to persuade a desperate couple who can¿t conceive naturally to allow untested medical research to experiment on their future unborn children in exchange for free infertility treatment. Who also knows what the consequences will be on the future wellbeing of those edited children? Lots of ethical questions need answers here

说服一对无法自然受孕的绝望夫妇,允许在他们未来未出生的孩子身上进行未经测试的医学实验,以换取免费的不孕治疗,这种做法让不敢苟同。谁也不知道这些被编辑过的孩子未来会受到什么样的影响?这里存在许多伦理问题

 

I Am All Right Jack, Ribble Valley, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

If they can do this I dread to think what sort of biological weapons there are in the world held in secret.

如果他们能做到这一点,不敢想象世界上有什么秘密的生物武器。

 

njchick89, Burlington Nj, United States, 2 days ago

the US bans all medical stuff that's actually beneficial

美国禁了所有实际有益的医学研究。

 

greylag, manchester, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

Stop HIV. Cancer. Other Diseases.. Oh dear, a world without pharmaceutical giants (That milk us constantly and charge the Earth for cure alls) Reckon This Chinese scientist deserves an award !

终结艾滋、癌症等等疾病,天啊,以后这个世界就不需要制药巨头了。我认为应该给这位科学家颁奖!

 

God Of War, Sheffield, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

Once 1 country starts others have to copy or they will be left behind. C hina will create smarter and stronger people. Is the USA going to be just allow themselves to fall behind? Of course not.

一旦个国家开了头,其他国家就会效仿,否则就会落后。将创造更聪明、更强大的人。美国能让自己落在后面吗?当然不

 

tony12, hull, 2 days ago

Always makes me wonder why they are all obsessed with a cure for HIV and the Billion upon Billions spent ,what about cancer !!!!!!!!!

我想知道为什么他们先对付的是艾滋病,癌症呢!!!!!!!!! !

 

larryglobes, blue bell pa, United States, 2 days ago

Without groundbreaking experiments like these we advance at a snails pace. The needs of the many...

没有这些突破性的实验,我们就像蜗牛一样缓慢前进。多人都有这种需求。

 

Jekle, World, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

It's a start hiv first .so if they going along them lines All sexual diseases then.?

首先艾滋病开始,接下来是不是轮到其它性病。

 

Sinner, Death Valley, United States, 2 days ago

Lives are cheap in China, especially if they are girls.

在,生命是廉价的,尤其是女孩子。

 

bob_001, Leeds, United Kingdom, 2 days ago

This is deeply wrong. The children were subject to all the risks for something that they may never need.

这是大错特错的。孩子们为了一些他们可能永远不需要的东西而承担了一切风险。

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