为何越南看起来比印度发达得多

Harshil Vora, Mechanical Engineer

I agree with Soumendu Majee. In addition to that If we assume your claim to be true of Vietnam performing better than India, Lets have a look at the advantages and disadvantages of staying in Vietnam instead of India.

Lets see some advantages first:

Be 85.23% less likely to be unemployed. (Vietnam has an unemployment rate of 1.30% while India has 8.80%)
Live 5.11 years longer. (The life expectancy at birth in Vietnam is 72.91 while in India it is 67.80.)
Be 56.03% less likely to die in infancy. (The number of deaths of infants under one year old in a given year per 1,000 live births in Vietnam is 18.99 while in India it is 43.19.)

我同意Soumendu Majee的观点。除此之外，如果我们假定你所谓的越南比印度好，那么让我们看看越南而不是印度的优势和不足。

让我们先看看一些优势：

失业率低85.23%。（越南失业率为1.30%，印度失业率为8.80%）
寿命长5.11年。（越南出生预期寿命为72.91岁，印度出生预期寿命为67.80岁）。
婴儿夭折率低56.03%。（在越南，每1000名活产婴儿在1岁内死亡的人数为18.99，而印度为43.19）。

Now lets see some disadvantages:

Use 96.99% more electricity. (The per capita consumption of electricity in India is 565kWh while in Vietnam it is 1,113kWh)
Spend 66.94% more money on health care. (Per capita public and private health expenditures combined in Vietnam are $102.50 USD while India spends $61.40 USD)
Consume 3.7% more oil ( India consumes 0.1134 gallons of oil per day per capita while Vietnam consumes 0.1176 )
Be 33.33% more likely to have HIV/AIDS. (The percentage of adults living with HIV/AIDS in Vietnam is 0.40% while in India it is 0.30%.)
Experience 2.17% more of a class divide. ( The degree of inequality in the distribution of family income. In Vietnam it is 37.60 while in India it is 36.80.)

现在让我们看看不足之处：

耗电量多96.99%。（印度的人均用电量为565kWh，而越南的电耗为1113kWh）。
医疗保健花费多66.94%。（越南人均公共和私人卫生支出合计为102.50美元，印度为61.40美元）
多消耗3.7%的石油（印度每天人均消耗0.1134加仑的石油，而越南每天消耗0.1176加仑的石油）
感染艾滋病毒/艾滋病的人数多33.33%。（越南艾滋病病毒感染者的比例为0.40%，印度为0.30%。）
等级划分程度高2.17%。（家庭收入分配的不平等程度。在越南是37.60，而在印度则是36.80。）

And one neutral point would be:

Make the same amount of money! ( The GDP per capita in Vietnam is $4,000 while in India it is $4,000)

The disadvantages don't seem much relevant on per day basis. But going by 5 or 10 year plan or more, It does produce more concern on society, environment and standard of living!

还有一点比较中立的是：

赚同样的钱！（越南人均GDP为4000美元，印度人均GDP也为4000美元）

短期看，不足之处并不那么重要。但通过五年、十年计划或更长时间后，它确实会产生更多的社会，环境和生活水平问题！

Vaibhav Khairnar, studies at Savitribai Phule Pune University (2019)

No, vietnam is not more modern or developed than india.

And Its unfair comparison. Bcoz

How can You compare

1250 million against 90 million?

33 lakh sq km against 3 lakh square km??

3 trillion $ against 195 billion $ ??

And if u still want to compare and say vietnam is more developed then:

不，越南并不比印度更现代化或更发达。

这种比较并不公平，这是因为

你怎么能把12.5亿跟9000万、330万平方公里和30万平方公里、2.3万亿和1950亿作对比呢？

如果你还坚持比较，认为越南语更发达的话：

i)india has 450 million people living in middle class and above which is FIVE times vietnam, their avg life is far better than avg vietnamese.can you compare??

ii)indias space technology ISRO (first asian and only the second after NASA to reach mars) against vietnams space technology. Can you compare??

iii)indias IT technology,business hubs, innovations,manufacturing, big MNCs, startups Against vietnams. Can you compare???

iv)indias military, economy, political influence, logistics, bollywood, media, sports, science and technology, airports,institutions etc etc…compare this with vietnam??

v)narendra modi(9 th most powerful person on the planet according to forbes 2015) against xuan phuc

vi)At last, indias global muscle power against vietnams…. can you compare??

（一）印度有4.5亿人生活在中产阶级之上，是越南的五倍，他们的平均生活水平比越南人要好得多，能比较吗？？

（二）印度太空技术印度空间研究组织（是抵达火星的第一个亚洲国家，仅次于美国宇航局）跟越南太空技术比一比。能比较吗？？

（三）印度的IT技术、商业中心、创新、制造业、大型跨国公司、初创企业对比越南。能比较吗？？？？

（四）印度的军事、经济、政治影响、后勤、宝莱坞、媒体、体育、科技、机场、机构等……与越南比比看呢？？

（五）纳伦德拉莫迪（福布斯2015年评选出的全球最有权势人物榜第9名），阮春福能比吗？

（六）最后，印度的全球实力和越南比…能比较吗？？

Leave aside india, lets compare vietnam with mumbai.

Vietnam gdp =195 Billion $(2015)

Vietnam gdp growth rate= 5. 4%

Mumbai gdp=278 billion $(2014)

Mumbai gdp growth rate=6. 2 %

So, i dont know how vietnam is more developed, when Mumbai alone has bigger and faster growing gdp than vietnam.

Look Both the countries are develo nations, i know vietnam is one of the fastest growing economies, it is also very important and prominent nation in south East Asia and a great strategic partner of india.

india has got its problems which should be fixed and maybe vietnam being a small country compared to india is a bit developed in rural areas(which i seriously doubt) .. also i dont know which part of india u visited but regardless of that India is just too big to compare with vietnam.

So ur question is completely wrong or i guess U are just trolling.

撇开印度，让我们把越南和孟买作比较。

越南GDP＝1950亿美元（2015年）

越南国内生产总值增长率为5.4%

孟买GDP＝2780亿美元（2014年）

孟买国内生产总值增长率为6.2%

所以，我不知道区区孟买国内生产总值都比越南更大、增长更快，如何硬说越南更加发达。

把这两个国家都看做发展家，我知道越南是经济增长最快的国家之一，也是东南亚很重要、表现很突出的国家，也是印度的伟大战略伙伴。

印度也有自己的问题，应该解决，也许越南比印度小，农村地区稍微发达（我严重怀疑）。我也不知道你去过印度哪里，但不论如何，印度比起越南都只大不小。

所以你的提问完全错误，我猜你只是骗回复。

Robert Charles Lee, Printbroker, financial printer, ex-lawyer

I think Vietnam seems to be doing better than India mainly because most projects don't seem to run into the kind of deadweight inertia of bureaucracy that characterise or typify India. So projects in Vietnam seem to move along relatively quicker there than the similar in India.

The way I understand it, the statistics are still in India's favour overall. Then again, those statistics may be a little misleading too. Notwithstanding the technical definitions, India has never had a closed economy (even though it might not necessarily have an 'open' one from time to time). India has always traded with the rest of the world, problematic it may have been from time to time in the past.

By contrast, Vietnam was closed off practically completely from 1975 until actual economic liberalisation came in the mid-1990s and really got moving in the early 2000s.

But like the others have highlighted, Vietnam is a rather homogeneous society and has a centralised way of governance, both of which helps considerably. India is a highly heterogeneous society by history and culture and the state is nowhere as centralised as it bills itself, so India has a much steeper uphill to get things done.

So far, that's the picture that appears to me about both countries. So far, both countries are trying to do the right thing and move in the right direction.

我认为越南似乎比印度做得更好，主要是因为大多数工程项目貌似都不会陷入官僚机构的繁冗之中，这种情况子在印度特别突出。因此，越南的项目进展起来似乎比印度要快得多。

据我了解，印度的统计数字总体上还是占优势。同样，这些统计数据可能也有点出入。印度从未有过封闭的经济（尽管经济并不总是“开放”）。印度一直与世界其他地区贸易。

相比之下，越南从1975年起几乎完全被封锁，直到1990年代中期才开始实施经济自由化，2000年代初真正开始行动。

但是，正如其它国家所强调的，越南是一个相当同质化的社会，采取中央的治理方式，这两点都有很大帮助。从历史和文化来看，印度是一个高度异质化的社会，国家没有统治，所以印度还要攀爬更陡峭的坡路。

到目前为止，这是我对两国的看法。到目前为止，两国都在努力做正确的事情，并朝着正确的方向前进。