‘Tortured by Modi govt, now want to teach them lesson’

达利特年轻代表：“受莫迪政府折磨，现在想教训教训他们。”

Jailed under NSA, the young face of Dalit politics, Bhim Army chief Chandrashekhar Azad ‘Ravan’, tells Sagarika Ghose why he’s contesting against Modi

作为达利特的年轻代表，Bhim陆军参谋长Chandrashekhar Azad曾被印度国家安全局监禁，他解释为何自己要和莫迪竞争。

Is your candidature against Modi in Varanasi a genuine move or a publicity stunt?

作为瓦拉纳西候选人与莫迪竞争，是你的真实意图还是宣传噱头?

The decision has been taken by the core committee of Bhim Army. I believe in the Dalit-Bahujan Ambedkarite struggle and want to talk about real issues, like education and health for all. In Varanasi, I saw promises of Swachh Bharat hadn’t been met. There are no jobs. Who will challenge the failures of the Modi government?

这一决定由陆军核心委员会作出。我相信达利特的斗争，想谈一谈真正的问题，比如全民教育和健康。在瓦拉纳西，莫迪的承诺没有兑现。没有提供工作岗位。那由谁来问责莫迪政府的失败?

Mayawati’s supporters say you are acting at BJP’s behest to divide Dalit votes...

玛雅瓦蒂的支持者称，你是奉印度人民党之命来分割达利特的选票。

When I announced my decision, I expected reactions from BJP. Instead, statements were issued by BSP and others accusing me of having links to BJP. If Behenji or her supporters believe I am acting on behalf of Modi and BJP, they should prove it. When Bhim Army fights on the ground, gets attacked, no one comes to our help. When we want to play a role in politics, everybody starts trading charges.

当我宣布这一决定时，曾预计印度人民党会做出反应。相反，BSP和其他人发表了声明，指责我与人民党有联系。如果玛雅瓦蒂或她的支持者认为我是在代表莫迪和人民党行事，他们应该拿出证据来

You are travelling across North India, making contact with Dalit youth...

你正在游走于印度北部，与达利特青年接触……

I have gone to Jodhpur, Ganganagar and Bhind. Lakhs of people have met me. I don’t see myself as a politician but as a fighter for the ‘bahujan andolan’.

我去了焦特布尔、根加讷格尔和Bhind。见过成千上万人，我认为自己不是一名政客，我是一名战士。

In 2014 and 2017, some Dalit subcastes, especially non-Jatavs, backed BJP.

在2014年和2017年，一些达利特支持印度人民党。

Why? Because they want self-respect.

为什么？因为他们想要自尊。

Priyanka Gandhi met you in hospital recently. Are you looking for an alliance with Congress?

最近普里扬卡·甘地在医院和你见过面。你在寻求与国大党结盟吗?

No, she had come to enquire about my health. As far as the ‘bahujan andolan’ is concerned, we need to maintain ties with others.

不是的。她是来询问我的健康状况。我们需要与其他党派保持联系。

In Varanasi, you’ve sought support from all parties.

在瓦拉纳西，你们寻求各个政党的支持。

If they (opposition) want to fight Modi, they should field someone. Why doesn’t Behenji, or Akhilesh or Mulayam Singh contest against Modi? I was tortured for 16 months by the Modi government. I want to teach them a lesson now.

如果他们(反对派)想要和莫迪对抗，他们应该派人去。为什么Behenji、Akhilesh或Mulayam Singh不和莫迪竞争?我被莫迪政府折磨了16个月，现在想给他们一个教训。

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译文来源：三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/47341.html   译者：Jessica.Wu

外文：https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Chowkidar Mukesh - 11 hours ago -Follow

I think anti-nationals like him should be in jail for 16-years not 16-month torture.

我认为他这样的反国家主义者应该被监禁折磨16年，而不是16个月。

Chowkidaar Ani - Hyderabad - 11 hours ago -Follow

A criminal is going to fight against Modi. And shameless Priyanka goes to meet him as he is fighting against Modi. This election is has only two parties. Pro Modi and anti Modi.

一名罪犯想和莫迪对抗。无耻的普里扬卡在这种时候还去和他见面。这次选举只有两个政党参选，分别是支持莫迪的政党和反对莫迪的政党。

Ashley King - 11 hours ago -Follow

Do you think any of opposition leader has courage to contest against Modi in Varanasi? RAGA already accepted defeat in Amethi.

你认为有哪个反对派领导人有勇气在瓦拉纳西与莫迪竞争吗?拉胡尔已经接受了在阿米提的失败。

Jacob - 10 hours ago -Follow

Indians and its caste system are more than enough to destroy the nation India. No need nuclear bomb or pakistan or any enemies... indians will be history by themselves.. its just a matter of time...

印度种姓制度毁了这个国家。不需要核弹、不需要巴基斯坦，不需要任何敌人……印度人将让自己成为历史，这只是时间问题……

Manny - 10 hours ago -Follow

Fake Dalit leaders like this crook are agents of working 24X7 to disintegrate India.

We need surgical strikes every day to get rid of these ppl.

这个达利特领袖是的特工，他们昼夜不停地在瓦解印度。

要消灭这些人，我们每天都应发动外科手术式打击。

K Bhagwan - 10 hours ago -Follow

Why should I believe him that he was tortured? A blatant lie.

我为什么要相信他受到了折磨?这是公然撒谎。

Navin - Mumbai - 10 hours ago -Follow

whole of India suffering because of caste system created by idiot nehru just to get votes. from last 60 years no uplifting done because making them happy by offering them few pieces of bread. shame to Congress and its followers

尼赫鲁为了获得选票而建立的种姓制度，让整个印度都在受苦。在过去的60年里，国大党没有做过任何建树，以为提供几块面包，大家就会感到快乐。这是国大党及其追随者的耻辱

Naresh Shah - 11 hours ago -Follow

This man is a "Pappu" man. Everybody wants to malign BJP during election.

这是拉胡尔的人。这是每个人都想在选举中诋毁印度人民党的节奏啊。

Kayveeala - 11 hours ago -Follow

he is a goon. why this goon given coverage? kayvee

他是个暴徒。为什么要报道这个暴徒?

Priya Saxena - 10 hours ago -Follow

Another failed good-for-nothing idiot going on a publicity stunt !!

A blot on the name he has !!

又一个失败的、一无是处的傻瓜在搞噱头!!

Unique Certification - 11 hours ago -Follow

Come out from your own thoughts first u learn something then teach others a lesson

先从自己的想法中走出来，学一些东西，然后再去教训别人

Indian - 10 hours ago -Follow

Just another beggar..

就是一个乞丐。

Manoj - 9 hours ago -Follow

Beggars are eating free food thrown by Govt , free education, medical , reservation etc. but still barking against the Govt. They are big burden on Tax Payers.

乞丐吃着政府发的免费食物、享受政府提供的免费教育、免费医疗、免费名额等等，仍然对政府咆哮。他们给纳税人带来了沉重的负担。

Sanjeev - 11 hours ago -Follow

The very fact that the interviewer is SAGARIKA GHOSH, we can understand where is it coming from, don't need to pay any attention to such stupid interviews.

事实上，采访者是SAGARIKA GHOSH，不需要关注这种不着边际的采访。

Miran Bose - 10 hours ago -Follow

Sagarika Ghosh is anti Modi .She will always print articles to show her opposition.It is blue journalism,this article is not worth consideration.

Sagarika Ghosh是反莫迪的，她总是发表反莫迪的报道。低级新闻，这篇文章不值得一看。

Kunal - Kolkata - 11 hours ago -Follow

To retaliate one person, this jawan does not care to jeopardize his country.

为了报复一个人，这个人不惜危害自己的国家。

Kayveeala - 9 hours ago -Follow

if you are a dalit then you are not above law of the land and constitution. Media works to create social unrest. kayvee

如果你是达利特，那你就不能凌驾于法律和宪法之上。媒体总是制造社会动荡。

Vishwanath Lingayat - 10 hours ago -Follow

This Joker wants to divide the country on cast lines.

这个小丑想用种姓分裂国家。

Sajob - 9 hours ago -Follow

Press is hel him become famous.. Nuts yeah..

媒体正帮助他成名.

Vijay - 10 hours ago -Follow

Caste division is an eclipse on India,

eradicate it at the earliest. Because of this there's brain drain.

种姓制度是印度的一个阴影，

尽早根除它。都怪种姓制度，印度人才才会流失。

Rajendrakumar - 10 hours ago -Follow

Sagarika Ghose always picks such issue which is against Modi.

Sagarika Ghose总是挑一些对莫迪不利的问题。

Pramod Sabnis - 8 hours ago -Follow

A gold watch in his hand.. and he says he is fighting for Dalits? India is full of such hypocrites.. including in BJP.. but BJP is better than others

他的手上带着一块金表，他还说他在为达利特而战? 印度到处都是伪君子

Rod - Raipur - 8 hours ago -Follow

He is not a representative of dalits. He us funded by co unists to divide Hindus in the name of caste. Check his source of income......

他不是达利特的代表，他以种姓的名义分裂印度教徒。查一下他的收入来源。

Being - 7 hours ago -Follow

Khangress will help him by getting a government job & 72000 per month

ROFL

国大党将帮他谋得一份政府差事，每月工资72000英镑