you should be raped shocking video goes viral
你就该被强奸:令人震惊的视频在网上走红
GURGAON: “Excuse me, aapko sharam nahin aati aapke thighs dikh rahe hain (aren’t you ashamed to be showing your thighs)?” This, alleges Shivani Gupta, a 30-year-old copy writer, was what a middle-aged woman told her when she entered an eatery, Nukkadwala, at JMD Megapolis mall in Gurgaon on Tuesday noon to eat with friends.
When Shivani said she was “perfectly comfortable in shorts”, the woman allegedly shot back, “Women get raped because of women like you.” And then, Shivani said, came the shocker. Addressing a group of men, the woman allegedly said, “Agar apko aisee ladkiyan dikhti hain toh rape kar do (If you see such girls, rape them)”.
古尔冈:“不好意思,但你不觉得袒露大腿很丢脸吗?”30岁的编辑希瓦尼古普塔称,周二中午,当她走进古尔冈JMD Megapolis购物中心内一家名为Nukkadwala的餐厅和朋友们一起吃饭时,一名中年大妈这样对她说。
当希瓦尼说她“穿短裤非常舒服”时,这名妇女答道,“女性会被强奸就是因为你这样的女人。”然后,希瓦尼说,更令人震惊的事情发生了。据称,这名女子对一群男子说:“如果你们看到这样的女孩,就强奸她们。”
The video recording a subsequent confrontation between Shivani and her friends and the woman, Soma Chakrabarty, had got 1.8 million views on Facebook by Wednesday evening. Chakrabarty later extended an “unconditional apology” to the women.
In the video, which begins with Shivani and her friends asking Chakrabarty to apologise, she steadfastly refuses to. It is shot at a home décor store in the same mall Chakrabarty had gone to after leaving the eatery. When the girls ask her to repeat what she had said, the latter walks away, saying, “Right now, I don’t want to talk to you.”
When Shivani and her friends then tell her what she had told them earlier was “disgusting and vulgar”, Chakrabarty keeps walking without responding. At one point, Shivani asks her, “Where is the lecture now? I should get raped, right?” The woman then walks to the store’s staff to call police.
这段视频记录了希瓦尼和她的朋友以及这位名叫索玛查克拉巴蒂的女子随后发生的冲突。截至周三晚间,这段视频在Facebook上的点击量已达180万次。查克拉巴蒂后来向这些女孩“无条件道歉”。
在视频中,希瓦尼和她的朋友要求查克拉巴蒂道歉,她坚决拒绝。这张照片拍摄于查克拉巴蒂离开餐馆后去过的同一家商场的家居装饰店。当女孩们要求她重复她说过的话时,她走开了,说:“现在我不想和你们说话。”
当希瓦尼和朋友告诉她,她之前所说的话非常“恶心和粗俗”,查克拉巴蒂继续走,不作回应。希瓦尼问她,“现在你要教训我什么?我应该被强奸,对吧?”然后,这名女子走向商店的工作人员,要求报警。
Shivani’s friends then narrate the incident to store employees and visitors and say they have the footage (referring to Soma’s original comments at Nukkadwala). “I will make your life a living hell if you don’t apologise right now… I will make you viral,” one of the girls says.
As a store employee asks them to leave, another woman in the shop steps in. Saying she is sorry to interfere, the woman says, “I am a mother of two daughters. I don’t mind my daughter wearing swimming costume and walking on the street… You don’t have the right to say anything about the girls wearing it (sic). You have to say sorry to them…. Say sorry otherwise the police will have to be called.”
But Chakrabarty sticks to her guns, looks at the mobile camera and says, “Hello guys. These ladies want to wear short to short dress to encourage all to see them. Wow very good (claps). Thank you thank you ya! All the ladies…. wear short dress or naked to rape… If you are the parents… please please control the girls. Please. For their behaviour, for their dresses… Spread it, spread in the all over India.”
Shivani, who lives in Gurgaon, told TOI on Wednesday she would lodge a police complaint against the woman for provoking some men to rape her. She appreciated the support she had received on social media but said she received rape threats too. “While most people supported our views, I also received rape threats. I think around 10% people feel whatever we did was incorrect,” she said. “All I want is for this lady to apologise. It was disrespectful to all women. I can’t change primitive mindsets of some people but I am glad that the issue got highlighted,” she said.
然后,希瓦尼的朋友向店员和游客讲述了这一事件,并说他们有这段视频(指的是索玛最早在Nukkadwala说的话)。其中一个女孩说:“如果你现在不道歉,我就让你生活在人间炼狱……我会让你像病毒一样见不得光。”
当一名店员要求她们离开时,另一名妇女走了进来。她说很抱歉打扰你:“我是两个女儿的母亲。我不介意我女儿穿着泳装走在街上……你没有权利对穿着这样衣服的女孩说三道四(原文如此)。你必须向他们道歉……说对不起,否则我们就要叫警察了。”
但查克拉巴蒂还是嘴硬,看着手机摄像头说,“你好,伙计们。这些女士想穿短到不能再短的裙子,叫所有人都看到她们的身体。哇,太棒了(掌声)。谢谢,谢谢!所有的女士们....穿短裙或赤身裸体,等着被强奸吧…如果你是父母…请控制一下这些姑娘。因为她们的行为,因为她们的穿着……你们就传吧,传遍整个印度才好。”
住在古尔冈的希瓦尼周三告诉《印度时报》,她将向警方提起诉讼,控告这名女子煽动一些男子强奸她。她感谢自己在社交媒体上得到的支持,但表示自己也收到了强奸威胁。“虽然大多数人支持我们的观点,但我也收到了强奸威胁。我认为大约10%的人认为无论我们做什么,都不对。我只是想让这位女士道歉。这是对所有女性的不尊重。我无法改变一些人的原始心态,但我很高兴这个问题得到了重视。”她说。
Chakrabarty admitted in an Instagram post on Wednesday she had been “harsh and incorrect in my statement”, which she said she had realised in hindsight. “I realise that I should have been protective and progressive in my outlook and not conservative and regressive... As a wife, sister and mother and more importantly as a woman, I value every woman's dignity.”
Diksha Lodha, Gupta’s friend and a resident of Delhi, said, “When Shivani told us what had happened, it didn't seem right to us. We wanted to confront her (Chakraborty) and find out if she really meant it. We were lucky to find her (they had left the eatery but returned). Unfortunately, she repeated herself in front of the camera.” TOI spoke to Chakraborty on Wednesday but she refused to comment.
Neha, another friend of Shivani who was also present, said, “There are times when your friend doesn't know what to do in such situations. Sometimes, you need support. So, we decided to fight it. I have never come across someone claiming you deserve to get raped on the basis of what you wear. It is not normal.”
Such comments, however, are nothing new as many girls face moral policing in society, affirming the patriarchal notion that “she asked for it”.
查克拉巴蒂周三在Instagram上承认,她“在声明中措辞严厉且不正确”,她说自己事后才意识到这一点。“我意识到,我自己的观点应该与时俱进,而不是保守和倒退……作为妻子、姐妹和母亲,更重要的是作为一个女人,我珍视每个女人的尊严。”
古普塔的朋友、德里居民迪克沙罗达说,“当希瓦尼告诉我们发生了什么事时,我们觉得不对劲。我们想要跟她当面谈谈(查克拉巴蒂),看看她是否真的这么想。我们很幸运找到了她(她们离开了餐馆,但又回来了)。不幸的是,她在镜头前重复了一遍。《印度时报》周三采访了查克拉巴蒂,但她拒绝置评。
希瓦尼的另一位朋友娜哈也在场,她说:“有时候你的朋友在这种情况下不知道该怎么办。有时候,你需要支持。所以,我们决定与之斗争。我从来没有遇到过有人说你应该因为自己的穿着而被强奸。这是不正常的。”
然而,这样的评论并不新鲜,因为许多女孩在社会上面临道德监督,肯定了“这是她自找的”父权观念。
Narrating a similar incident, 20-year-old Nikita Yadav said, “Once I was in a market and an aunty walked up to me. She told me my crop top was too high and my navel was visible. It was very embarrassing but I just ignored the lady. I wish I had sought an apology on video, too. I am happy Shivani Gupta had the courage to do so.”
Divya Dureja, an LGBT activist, psychologist and corporate trainer, said, “As is apparent from the recent incident, patriarchy is deep-rooted and can be propagated even by women. We need systems in place for large-scale sensitisation for all. The future of Indian society may depend on it.”
Leadership coach Shilpi Singh said like every other woman, she had been told by her family members to not wear certain clothes or not go out at certain hours without a man, several times. However, speaking up was the key, she added. As a mother of a 10-year-old boy, she said children picked up whatever they saw in their family. “You have to stand up and be confident like the girls. That is when such people lose power to control you. A lot of times, when we are young and face such comments by older women in the house, we usually don’t respond so that the family relationship is not spoiled. But these little things magnify into such regressive attitude and boys learn from the way women in their families are treated,” she said.
20岁的尼基塔·亚达夫也讲述了类似的事件。“有一次我去市场,一位大妈走过来跟我说,你的露脐上衣太短,都能看到肚脐了。当时我觉得很尴尬,但我只是不理睬那位女士。我希望我当时也通过视频寻求道歉。我很高兴希瓦尼·古普塔有勇气这么做。”
同性恋活动人士、心理学家和企业培训师迪维亚·杜雷贾说:“从最近的事件中可以明显看出,父权制根深蒂固,甚至连女性也参与传播。我们需要为所有人建立大规模的宣传教育。印度社会的未来可能就取决于此。”
领导力教练希尔皮·辛格说,和其他所有女性一样,她的家人好几次告诉她,不要穿某种衣服,或者在某个时间不要在没有男人陪伴的情况下出门。然而,她补充说,大声说出来才是关键。作为一个10岁男孩的母亲,她说孩子们在家里有样学样。“你必须站起来,像这些女孩子一样自信。这时这些人就失去了控制你的能力。很多时候,当我们年轻的时候,面对家里年长女性的这种评论,我们通常不会做出回应,这样家庭关系才不会被破坏。但这些小事会放大成这种倒退的态度,男孩会从家庭中女性受到何种对待而模仿学习”她说。
Pranjali Tiwari, a Gurgaon-based advocate, said, “I haven’t seen the video but I have heard about it from my friends and her comments were deplorable. On the flip side, the backlash has reached extreme proportions. It’s not right to retaliate by body-shaming a middle-aged woman either (a reference to comments on social media targeting her). Hem length is not a reflection of your character, we live in a free country and all women have the freedom to choose what they wear.”
Tiya Sharma, an entrepreneur, added, “I agree that her language and tone was totally unacceptable. However, we can clearly see in the video that she realised her mistake. She has got a lesson and shouldn’t be trolled.”
古尔冈的一位律师普拉纳贾利蒂瓦里说,“我没有看过这段视频,但我从朋友那里听说了,她说的话令人震惊。”另一方面,民众的反对声潮也达到了极端的程度。通过羞辱中年女性来报复她也是不对的(指社交媒体上针对她的评论)。衣服的长度并不能反映你的性格,我们生活在一个自由的国家,所有的女性都有选择衣服的自由。”
企业家蒂亚·夏尔马补充说,“我同意,她的语言和语气完全令人无法接受。然而,从视频中我们可以清楚地看到,她意识到了自己的错误。她得到了教训,不应该被声讨。”
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译文来源:三泰虎 http://www.santaihu.com/47542.html 译者:Joyceliu
外文:https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/You-should-be-raped-Shocking-video-goes-viral/articleshow/69137229.cms
Ram Mishra
Women are not such free to just bear two pieces and walk in street. Such rich youth can only Force to old woman to apologise , but can''t change the fact. They can''t blame to another , if something happens with them. If they have right to bear anything, then another has also some right which could be misused.
女人还没有只穿两片衣服走在大街上的自由。有钱的青年虽能强迫老妇人道歉,却改变不了事实。如果发生了什么事,她们也不能怪别人。如果她们有权利穿任何衣服,那么别人也有权滥用这种权利。
Chokidar•2 hours ago
lovely girls please send Ur bikini vedeo we will admire Ur body n u will become star in a day by this u may get chance in modelling and even in movies come on don't waste time
可爱的女孩们,请发你们的比基尼视频让我们欣赏欣赏你的身体吧,你一天内就能成为明星,你可能借此机会当上模特,甚至拍摄电影,来吧,不要浪费时间
Rishabh•2 hours ago
Lady should not have said "You should be r#ped". This was a very bad thing to do. Otherwise she should have told nicely that those dresses was making people uncomfortable. It's true that girls nowadays wear revealing dresses. Such dresses should be worn in foreign countries. At least respect the culture and legacy of India and don't try to imitate western culture. Western culture is very bad and that's the only reason marriages don't work there and they have multiple divorces. When in India, try... Read More
女士不应该说“你就该被强奸”。这是一件非常糟糕的事情。她应该委婉地说那些衣服让人不自在。现在的女孩确实会穿暴露的衣服。这种衣服应该在国外穿。女孩们起码要尊重印度的文化和遗产,不要光想着模仿西方文化。西方文化非常糟糕,这是婚姻在那里行不通的唯一原因,他们离婚如儿戏。
Arun•2 hours ago
First the headline is wrong, second we should understand the context and then react. Whatever she said was out of concern and safety of the girls. Yes the way she said was absolutely wrong. Girls wearing revealing clothes, boys high on sex driven by freely available porn and complete break down of the law & order are the three biggest reasons of fast increase of crimes against women. A wise man said "Prevention is better than cure." Dressing decently in a public place is the best prevention ... Read
首先,标题是错误的,其次,我们应该了解上下文,然后再作出回应。无论她说什么,都是出于对女孩们的关心和安全考虑。是的,她说的完全错了。衣着暴露的女孩、被免费色情片驱使而性欲旺盛的男孩以及法律和秩序的彻底崩溃,是针对女性的犯罪快速增长的三大原因。一位智者说:“预防胜于治疗。”在公共场所穿着得体是最好的预防措施。
Pradeep•Unknown•2 hours ago
WE are reading the story here and commenting on it. Honestly the story here is only a part, not the whole picture.
我们正在阅读这篇文章并发表评论。老实说,这里说的故事只是事实的一部分,并非全部。
Rishabh• Pradeep•2 hours ago
Very True.
说的很对啊。
Kevin Alvarez•Mumbai•2 hours ago
I would request all Indians (both men and women) to watch Alanis Morissette''s ''Thank You'' on YouTube. It is one of the most beautiful videos ever produced in the history of mankind. Believe me, no man will ever think anything evil about a woman on seeing it. Each time I see it, beautiful, tender feelings for women well up in my heart!
我希望所有印度人(包括男人和女人)都能在YouTube上观看艾拉妮丝·莫莉塞特的《谢谢》。这是人类历史上最美丽的视频之一。相信我,没有哪个男人会一看到一个女人就有邪恶的想法。每当我看这个视频,对女人美丽、柔情的感觉就涌上心头!
Jay Brahma•2 hours ago
The elderly woman was absolutely right and need not be apologetic while the younger chicks should BUT now everything is opposite and Chors are shouting at Chowkidars.
老妇人说的是绝对正确的,不需要道歉,年轻的小姑娘才应该道歉,但现在一切都倒过来了。
Akshya Padhy•2 hours ago
Freedom does not prevail to go beyond decency. Where you stay that culture need to adopt.
自由无法战胜体面。在你生活的地方,这种文化需要被接受。
inson Joy•2 hours ago
This type of mindset is the main problem.
这种心态是主要问题。
mrpqrs•Location•2 hours ago
Obviously ''Essay on Liberty'' has not been read by this middle aged bloated BANIA woman !
很明显,这个中年臃肿的巴尼亚女人没有读过《自由论》这本书!
Akshya Padhy•2 hours ago
Do not over react . There was a message for good. But she should not be so harsh also . Here parent can guide but as outsider should recommend. Why do not show full video with you.
不要反应过度。这女人是出于好意。但是她也不应该说这么粗鲁的话。在这一点上,家长可以起到引导作用,但作为局外人应该加以劝告。为什么不看看完整的视频。
mrpqrs•Location•2 hours ago
Jealousy from a plain, fat, middle-aged woman ?
这是一个普通、肥胖的中年妇女的嫉妒心?
Saranu•3 hours ago
I don't believe dignity and baring the body in public go together. After all such girls would be left with very little to offer to prospective husbands.
我不相信尊严和在公共场合裸露身体能共存。毕竟,这样的女孩可能无法给未来的丈夫留下什么。
Anand Tiwari•3 hours ago
I SUGGEST THAT GIRL IF YOU WANT TO GET FAMOUS THEN POSTING VIDEOS LIKE THIS WONT DO MUCH HELP...INSTEAD SHE SHOULD MAKE PORN OF HERSELF AND POST IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA...WHO KNOWS SHE MIGHT BECOME NEXT SUNNY LEONE...MADE IN INDIA
我建议那个女孩,如果你想出名,那么发布这样的视频作用不大…相反,她应该拍个色情片发到社交媒体上……谁知道她可能会成为下一个阳光明媚的利昂……印度制造
Konfucius Ken•3 hours ago
Menopausal auntiji versus attention seeking pseudo self righteous, potential lynch mob teens. Reminds me of a pack of dogs attacking another intruder of their kind. Waste of time.
更年期大婶与寻求关注的自以为是、可能的私刑暴徒青少年。让我想起一群狗攻击另一个同类入侵者的场景。纯属浪费大家的时间。
Keith Walia•india•3 hours ago
WE LIVE IN A RESPECTABLE WORLD AND OUR INDIA IS A RESPECTABLE COUNTRY. EVERY WOMAN SHOULD LEARN TO RESPECT EVERY LADY IN INDIA. MALE POPULATION IN INDIA NEED TO RESPECT WVERY FEMALE WHERE EVER THEY ARE. PLEASE BEHAVE AND RESPECT EACH OTHER.
我们生活在一个受人尊敬的世界,我们的印度是一个受人尊敬的国家。在印度,每个女人都应该学会尊重每个女人。印度的男性无论在何处都需要尊重女性。请大家规矩点,互相尊重。
Nathuram Godse•Kolkata•3 hours ago
Free to wear decent clothes. Clothes are not for you. Its for others. One can remain naked at home. No need to be ashamed with oneself.
我们有穿体面衣服的自由。穿衣不为自己,而是为他人。一个人在家可以赤身裸体。不必为自己感到羞愧。
Jonny Tonny Monny•3 hours ago
If someone has right to wear anything, the other person should have the freedom to condemn it in a right way and the media should not act as a dr by doing it''s moral policing.
如果一个人有穿衣服的自由,另一个人就有以正确的方式谴责的自由,媒体不应该像独才者那样道德监控。
Rajeev•3 hours ago
The lady's advise to the young girls are for their own safety, dignity and respect. But she was presented in the media in - ve way. There is a conspiracy behind such dishonest projection & there are many possibilities why mount created out of moles.
这位女士给年轻女孩的建议是为了她们自身的安全、尊严和尊重。但是她被媒体曝光了。在这种不诚信的推测背后存在着阴谋。
Pistol Smith•kuiper belt outer space•3 hours ago
So it seems aunties are more interested nowadays as to what women wears ? Reminds me of a recent incident where if im not incorrect, a white woman was denied boarding aboard a flight in canary islands due to her top and was lambasted later by a few women activists themselves. That was in UK which was all the more surprising.
所以现在阿姨们似乎对女人穿什么衣服更感兴趣了?这让我想起最近发生的一件事,如果我没记错的话,一名白人女性因为上衣被拒绝搭乘卡纳里群岛的一架飞机,后来还遭到几名女性活动人士的痛斥。这事发生在英国,更令人惊讶。
William India•MANGALORE•3 hours ago
SHE IS ALREADY POPULAR... THAT IS WHAT SHE WANTED. PEOPLE HAVE RIGHT TO WEAR WHAT THEY LIKE TO WEAR, ONE CANNOT DICTATE, UNLESS IT IS NAKED..
她已经出名了……这就是她想要的。人们有权利穿他们喜欢的衣服,没有人可以指手画脚,除非是裸体。
Anand Tiwari•3 hours ago
WHERE IS THE THIGS IN VIDEO...FOR WHICH I WAS PATIENTLY WAITED FOR 10 MINUTES !!!
视频发生在哪儿…为此我耐心地等了10分钟!!
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