Thamirabarani civilization: We’ll prove that history of Indian subcontinent must begin from Tamil landscape, Stalin says

泰米尔纳德邦首席部长：我们将证明印度次大陆的历史是从泰米尔开始的

CHENAI: Unravelling ancient history in Tamil Nadu, chief minister M K Stalin announced in the state assembly on Thursday that the Thamirabarani civilisation was 3,200 years old. This was based on carbon dating analysis of paddy with soil found in a burial urn in Sivakalai in Thoothukudi district.

金奈：首席部长M K斯大林(M K Stalin)周四在邦议会上宣布，泰米尔纳德邦文明有3200年历史，解开泰米尔纳德邦的古老历史。这是根据在Thoothukudi地区Sivakalai的一个墓穴中发现的水稻和土壤的碳定年分析得出的。

Using AMS carbon dating method, US lab Beta Analytic found that the paddy in the urn belonged to 1155 BCE, which is 600 years older than the samples found in Keeladi in Sivagangai district where current excavation has been throwing up exciting findings. Historians say that the graffiti found in the Indus Valley Civilisation and that encountered in south India are about 80% identical. This suggests that there may be some linguistic connection between the Indus Valley Civilisation, south India and Sri Lanka.

美国实验室Beta Analytic使用AMS碳定年法发现瓮中的稻谷属于公元前1155年，比在西瓦甘盖地区的Keeladi发现的样本要早600年，目前在西瓦甘盖地区的挖掘已经有了令人兴奋的发现。历史学家称，在印度河流域文明发现的图文和在印度南部发现的图文有80%是相同的。这表明印度河流域文明、印度南部和斯里兰卡之间可能存在某种语言联系。

Ancient urns discovered

发现古瓮

The shortest river in the state, the Thamirabarani starts in Pothigai hills of the Western Ghats in the Ambasamudram taluk, flows through Tirunelveli and Thoothukudi districts and empties at Korkai (Tirunelveli district) into the Gulf of Mannar (Bay of Bengal).

泰米拉巴拉尼河是该邦最短的河流，发源于Ambasamudram taluk的西高止山脉的Pothigai山，流经Tirunelveli和Thoothukudi地区，然后在Korkai 流入孟加拉湾

"In search of cultural roots of Tamils, we will travel across the world. The government will scientifically establish with evidence that the history of the Indian subcontinent should begin with the Tamil landscape," said the chief minister. He recalled that the Centre had left the excavation at Keeladi incomplete, prompting the state to continue its initiative.

首席部长说：“为了寻找泰米尔人的文化根源，我们将周游世界。政府将科学地建立证据，证明印度次大陆的历史应该是从泰米尔地区开始的，”。他回顾说，印度政府在Keeladi的发掘工作没有完成，这促使泰米尔纳德邦继续挖掘。

以下是印度时报读者的评论：译者：Jessica.Wu

Unemployed Liberandu

Please change your Western name Stalin to Tamil Name

请把你的西方名字斯大林改成泰米尔名字

somat

I hope TN respects its own traditin. Great Chola dynasty had first recorded punishment of cow slaughter. in fact great king ellalan executed his own son. Hope DMK upholds this tradition and starts executing its cadres for the same.

希望泰米尔纳德邦尊重自己的传统。卓拉王朝最早记录了对屠杀牛的惩罚。伟大的埃拉兰国王处决了自己的儿子。希望DMK党保持这一传统，并开始执行处决犯该罪行的干部。

Samir Pandya

It will take another 3200 years for people like Stalin to reach a civilized world.

像斯大林这样的人还需要过3200年才能进入文明世界。

JOHN RAMBO

What does this idiot mean by 'History of indian subcontinent must begin from Tamil Nadu'. That means everybody forget their heritage and start learning Tamil.

这个白痴说“印度次大陆的历史肯定从泰米尔纳德邦开始”是什么意思？

这意味着每个人都要忘记他们的传统，开始学习泰米尔语？

Michael Alok

AND MISSIONARIES ARE DESTROYING THE GREAT TAMIL CIVILIZATION BY CONVERTING TAMILS TO A FOREIGN RELIGION.

传教士正在摧毁伟大的泰米尔文明，他们让泰米尔人皈依外国宗教。

raja suri

Forum of entertainment talk

娱乐论坛

Kumar N

I feel proud to be part of the Tamil society which is so old.We have studied about mughals and others but history has neglected our own tamil culture dating to a period long before Christ .At least our chief minister has taken the initiative to probe our ancient civilization and our people should be given their due place in history

我为自己是泰米尔社会的一员而感到骄傲。我们研究了莫卧儿和其他民族，但历史忽略了我们自己的泰米尔文化，这可以追溯到公元前很久。至少我们的首席部长主动探索我们的古老文明，我们的人民应该在历史上获得应有的地位

Bahadur Indrajal Comics

Tamil society still live in 3200 years of backwardness. First, Tamil people should stop this madness for historical first and instead close TASMAC shops. This will save Tamil society from abject poverty.

泰米尔社会仍然落后3200年。首先，泰米尔人应该停止这种对历史的疯狂，关闭TASMAC商店。把泰米尔社会从赤贫中拯救出来。

Raj Rajan

Tamil nadu will be the fastest conversion state in 2026 hindus will be minority there

泰米尔纳德邦将成为2026年转变最快的邦，到时候印度教徒将成为少数族裔

Modify India

And Stalin is a living example: Uncivilized still!

未开化，斯大林就是一个活生生的例子!

Michael Alok

SUDDENLY, STALIN IS CONCERNED ABOUT TAMIL CIVILISATION!

突然间，斯大林开始关心泰米尔文明了!

Michael Alok

RICE BAG WITH A COMMIE NAME WANTS TO CREATE RIFT AMONGST HINDUS OF HINDUSTAN FOR HIS CHEAP POLITICAL GAINS

为了自己廉价的政治利益，他想在印度教徒之间制造裂痕

Santosh Kumar D

This Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu could NOT have a Tamil name instead has a Russian name is preaching history to other for his stupid politics.

泰米尔纳德邦首席部长的名字不是泰米尔名字，而是俄罗斯名字，为了政治，向别人说教历史。

Abcd

If Thamirabarani civilization is dated to 1155 BCE, then it means it is much younger than Harappan civilization. It means Tamil civilisation started after the decline of Harappan civilization. How can then history of Indian subcontinent begin with Tamil landscape?

如果泰米拉巴拉尼文明可以追溯到公元前1155年，那就意味着它比哈拉帕文明年轻得多。这意味着泰米尔文明是在哈拉帕文明衰落之后开始的。那么印度次大陆的历史怎么会从泰米尔开始呢?

Bks

MODI said love your mother tongue, communicate other parts of India with Hindi. But Tamilians talk with other part of India in Tamil. Going to Tamilnadu is a big pain. Autowala only understand Tamil.

莫迪说，爱你的母语，用印地语和其他地方的人交流。但是泰米尔人用泰米尔语与印度其他地区的人交谈。去泰米尔纳德邦是件很痛苦的事。骑三轮车的只懂泰米尔语。

Ragnorok

Every region in India has very ancient civilization. For example Kasi. We can't even think of when the civilization originated there. These Tamil politicians sell stories to cheat their public.

印度每个地区都有非常古老的文明，例如Kasi。我们甚至无法想象文明是何时在那里起源的。这些泰米尔政客兜售故事来欺骗公众。

Vijay Bakaya

Needs to know more about Tamil legacy. Tamil is the world's first language that too 5000 years ago. Needs to read more from his library museums

我们需要更多地了解泰米尔遗产。5000年前，泰米尔语是世界上第一种语言。需要从图书馆博物馆里多看点东西

Amit

Why South Indians keep on imposing there view on civilization on entire India?? Tamilians, Kannadigas are particularly pricky about their history and it's connection with modern times. They keep on har about superiority of their culture, language and traditions as if all indians exst due to their historical favours. This stinking superiority complex fuels greater divide.

为什么印度南方人一直把他们的文明观强加给印度全国人民？

泰米尔人，坎那达人对他们的历史以及它与现代的联系特别敏感。

他们喋喋不休地说着他们的文化、语言和传统的优越性，

好像所有印度人都是因为他们的历史优势而存在似的。

这种可恶的优越感加剧了分歧。

Batman USA

Some body tel Mr. Stalin-(i thought of Russian stalin- lol) that our north indian harappa civilization was 8000 yrs old., so civilization in indian sub continent didnot begin in south .india.

告诉斯大林先生(我想到了俄罗斯的斯大林)，我们北印度的哈拉帕文明有8000年的历史了。所以印度次大陆的文明并不是起源于印度南部。

mdmagar M

It's painful to see pathetic decline of Hindutva in Tamil Nadu at the hands of some evil cults.

看到泰米尔纳德邦的印度教可悲地衰落了，是令人痛苦的。

Ragnorok

His name is 'Stalin' Lol.. not even an Indian name. A ruthless dic-or's name from foreign country. . Lol.. First he should change his name to actual Indian name

他的名字叫“斯大林”，哈哈，连个印度名字都没有，一个外国名字。首先，他应该把自己的名字改成真正的印度名字