中国学会了如何造先进的芯片

Oops, China learned how to make good chips

哎呦，中国学会了如何造芯片

This week Qualcomm announced new 4nm wearable chips called the Snapdragon W5 Gen 1 and W5+ Gen 1, Sony and Minecraft's Mojang said no to NFTs, and China's SMIC chip fab shipped 7nm bitcoin miners with a process they copied from TSMC, potentially overtaking the US & EU.

本周，高通发布了用于可穿戴设备的骁龙W5 Gen 1和W5+ Gen 1新型4纳米可芯片，索尼和Minecraft的Mojang（我的世界）拒绝了NFTs，而中国的中芯国际(SMIC)芯片厂则推出了7纳米比特币挖矿机，采用了从台积电(TSMC)复制的工艺，有可能超过美国和欧盟。

以下是Youtube网友的评论：

Bruhder

Arc A380 honestly seems amazing for how well it performs for 130 bucks.

老实说，130美元的Arc A380的性能非常好。

Om Dahake

If China could pull the chip manufacturing off the it would get a huge leverage in geopolitical talks

如果中国会造芯片，将在地缘政治谈判中发挥巨大的影响力

ahmad ogidan

China's breakthrough in chip manufacturing is even more impressive considering that the most significant impact of the US trade dispute with China has been in this industry (the US also prevented ASML from selling to China).

考虑到美国与中国的贸易争端对该行业的影响最大(美国还阻止了ASML向中国销售芯片)，中国在芯片制造方面的突破就更令人印象深刻了。

Jakob Music

Fiiiiinally some promising chips for android wearables.

终于有一些应用于安卓可穿戴设备的有前景的芯片了。

Moments

great job there China, while they're not able to perfect the 7nm process, at least they tried. Image they have procured the EUV machine. going neck and neck with TSMC.

中国干得好，虽然没有完善7纳米工艺，但至少尝试了。他们已经采购了EUV机，与台积电并驾齐驱。

Chris L

It’s a win win for consumers if China really can produce advanced chips

如果中国真的能生产出先进的芯片，这对消费者来说是好事

Duya Taksis

China will develop its own EUV lithography machines.

中国将自主研发EUV光刻机。

George K

Funny how all these Video Game Companies took the high road with NFTs but some were a heartbeat away from integrating them a few months back.

有趣的是，所有电子游戏公司都采用了NFT，而有些公司在几个月前还没有将其整合到游戏中

Farthur F.

Damn even with limited 7nm it's fastest grow Chipset Manufactur under US sanctions

该死，即使只是有限的7纳米，在美国制裁下，也是增长最快的芯片组厂商

Phoenix

So Samsung sold 3 million units of $1800 fold phones? I love that this is happening, so the development continues. I haven't bought one of these, but it is my ideal phone.

三星卖出了300万部1800美元的折叠手机？

我很高兴这一切正在发生，所以发展还在继续。

我还没有买过这样的手机，但它是我理想中的手机。

Sounds promising with the new watch chips.

新的手表芯片听起来很有前景。

Robert Gittings

The funny thing was the idea of EUV ASML currently banned to sell to China the original patent was bought from a Taiwanese (Chinese) guy after he got rejected trying to sell to Japanese Canon's Etching process department (then the largest Etching company in the world before ASML take the lead)

有趣的是，EUV ASML目前被禁止向中国出售，最初的专利是从一个中国台湾人那里买的，他试图卖给日本佳能的蚀刻部门(当时是世界上最大的蚀刻公司，在ASML领先之前)，但被拒绝了。

Davout

Considering SMIC couldn't produce 14nm in high quantities the 7nm process will be a big no no.

考虑到中芯国际无法量产14纳米芯片，7纳米工艺基本不可能。

yoshyoka

Turns out... they are producing a N7 equivalent without using EUV... which is what TMSC back in 2018, with the added drawback that they are now massively uncompetitive compared to TSMC N6 offerings. It is indeed a huge step forward for the Chinese semiconductor industry, but not the big breakthrough they try to sell it to be.

事实证明，他们没有使用EUV就生产出了相当于N7的产品，这就是台积电在2018年的表现，但另一个缺点是，与台积电N6产品相比，它们非常缺乏竞争力。这的确是中国半导体行业向前迈出的一大步，但并非他们试图宣扬的那种重大突破。

Samoa Soa

Never underestimate the underdog. If we have seen how when US banned China from participating in International Space Station, China managed in a very shot time built one for themselves. Sanction only encourage self reliance and further South Korea may work with SMIC.

永远不要低估弱者。美国禁止中国参与国际空间站，而中国在极短的时间内自己建造了一个空间站。

制裁只会鼓励自力更生，韩国可能会进一步与中芯国际合作。

dralex makalla

THE CHINESE ONCE SAID TO AMERICANS " CHIPS ARE NOT MADE BY GOD "

THEY DID WHAT THEY MEANT

中国人曾对美国人说“芯片不是上帝造的”。

他们做到了

Md. Wahidur Rahman

still a long way to go, if china excels in chip industry it will be unstoppable!

中国要在芯片行业领先，还有很长的路要走，不过是不可阻挡的

Arthur Smith

Definitely hope China could make EUV machines successfully.

当然希望中国能成功制造EUV机。

Weitao Tang

If this is true, I might consider going back home from the US. Going through the OPT H1b and green card process is torturing, especially for a newly graduated PhD in his early 30s like me.

如果这是真的，我可能会考虑从美国回国。申请OPT H1b签证和绿卡的过程很折磨人，尤其是对我这样30出头刚毕业的博士来说。

Christopher Richard Wade Dettling

Good chips need to be integrated into the economy, greatly increasing automation, so chips are one (very important) factor in computational power.

好芯片需要集成到经济中，大大提高自动化程度，所以芯片是计算能力的一个非常重要的因素。

Raving Fan7642

Intel make 7nm too, but yield too low to be profitable, be int. to see if SMIC mass produce 7nm windows chips, w/o EUV mcs.

英特尔也生产7纳米芯片，但产量太低，无法盈利。看看中芯在没有EUV机的情况下是否能批量生产7纳米windows芯片。

wind Cold

In fact, Morris Chang, the founder of TSMC, is Chinese. He was born in Zhejiang Province, China, not Taiwan.

事实上，台积电的创始人张忠谋就是中国人。他出生在中国浙江省，而不是出生在台湾省。

Mikel Brenn

Anyone big tech can make 7nm but how good is it for a 7nm? That's another question.

任何大型科技公司都可以生产7纳米芯片，但有多好呢？这是另一个问题。

Huggy Bear

US: China is not allowed in our International Space Station! China: Okay, we'll build one for ourselves! US: China is banned from ASML 10nm chip and beyond! China" No worries, we fabricate 7mn instead!

US: 10% tariff on all China's imports to teach them a lesson!

China: Sure ! Let's see how it goes .....!

US: Oop! Sorry, is causing us inflation! We'll like to cancel it!

美国：不允许中国进入我们的国际空间站

中国：好吧，我们自己建一个

美国：禁止中国购买ASML 10纳米芯片和其他产品

中国：别担心，我们自己造7纳米芯片

美国：对所有中国进口商品征收10%的关税，给他们一个教训

中国：没问题，让我们拭目以待

美国：哎呦，抱歉，正在引起国内通货膨胀，我们想取消这个关税

Steve Yoong

It's Intel which has forgotten building good chips. Being obsessed to China doesn't solve Intel's problems.

是英特尔忘了如何生产先进芯片，盯着中国并不能解决英特尔的问题。

From what I heard the US chip bill is not aimed to boost chip competition but rather the other way around. Because the contents basically are,

"If you build factories here in the US we'll give you billions of $$$. But you must promise not to invest in China for the next 10 years".

I don't know about you but that does not sound like promoting competition to me. Also chip factories take tens of billions at least to build so I'm not sure the subsidies would be attractive enough to keep away from Chinese market, either.

据我所知，美国芯片法案的目的并不是促进芯片竞争，而是恰恰相反的。

因为内容基本上是，“如果你在美国建工厂，我们会给你数十亿美元。但你必须承诺在未来10年内不投资中国”。

我不知道你们怎么想，但我觉得这听起来不像是在促进竞争。

此外，建造芯片工厂至少需要数百亿美元，我也不确定补贴是否有足够的吸引力，让这些企业远离中国市场。

Mhn Mhn

Good to see companies compete for customers instead of raising the prices for no reason (Apple and Samsung)

很高兴看到公司为了客户而竞争，而不是无缘无故提高价格(苹果和三星)

Thor 808

SMIC is unlikely to have developed 7nm technology, because it requires EUV lithography equipment from Netherland with US components and IP, many specialized materials from Japan, other production equipments from US and design software from US. Once SMIC procures equipments, materials and design software then they need to develop process expertise to produce 7nm semiconductors. Did China also develop manufacturing equipments, materials, and software? LOL!

中芯国际不太可能开发出7纳米技术，这需要荷兰的EUV光刻机和美国的元器件和专利，很多专用材料来自日本，其他生产设备来自美国，设计软件来自美国。

一旦中芯国际采购了设备、材料和设计软件，他们就需要研发生产7纳米半导体的工艺专长。

中国是否也研发了制造设备、材料和软件?

Tyler Dunlap

Well it's not like they weren't already making decent stuff. The hi silicon chips that Huawei used were pretty darn good. Weren't quite able to match the latest Qualcomm or Apple silicon, but they were close.

他们又不是没有造像样的东西。华为使用的高硅芯片非常好，虽然不能与最新的高通或苹果芯片相媲美，但已经接近了。

Aka

Niceee I hope this leads to even more competition!

很好，我希望这会带来更多的竞争

Roger Hudson

A China- Taiwan conflict and would totally disrupt the global micro chip market.

如果台海发生冲突，将彻底扰乱全球微芯片市场。

Abdul Majeed

Great news now chip's prices will go down as they won't be able to compete with Chinese pricing

好消息，芯片的价格将会下降，他们无法与中国芯片的价格竞争

Lena

May they be successful in their endeavors