印度空军求购114架战机：阵风、欧洲台风和鹰狮，三大欧洲品牌竞争

Indian Air Force seeks 114 fighters: Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon & Gripen | 3 European contenders

印度空军寻求购买114架战机：阵风、欧洲台风和鹰狮，三大欧洲品牌竞争

Three formidable European fighter aircraft vying for the mega Indian Air Force deal. The $18BN multi-role fighter aircraft project was announced by New Delhi in April 2018. Pertinent to note, the MRFA project seeks to acquire 114 fighters (or six squadrons).

三款强大的欧洲战斗机正在争夺印度空军的大单。新德里之前宣布了这个180亿美元的多用途战斗机项目。值得注意的是，MRFA项目寻求购买114架战斗机(6个中队)。

以下是印度网民的评论：

Shashank Chauhan

This deal (rather requirement) is on going since 2006. It's the same set of aircrafts they assess every 2-3 years. Every chief of air staff since then talked about the need of these jets and we are in 2022 now with same requirements, same jets, enemy with better capability but in a different year.

这项采购自2006年以来一直在进行中，他们每2-3年对同一款飞机进行评估。从那时起，每一位空军参谋长都在谈论对这些飞机的需求，现在是2022年，需求还是一样的，同样的飞机，敌人的装备早就升级了。

Speaking Tree

Listening this for more than 15 years. By the time IAF procured, the fighter technology would become obsolete

说了15年了，等到印度空军买到手的时候，这种战斗机技术已经过时了

ACHARYA ASHIS

Rafale is a very capable aircraft and is already in the Indian Air Force service. All necessary India-specific modifications have already been incorporated in Rafale. Kee many types of different aircraft in the inventory is a nightmare for the maintenance staff. Inventory costs will also go very high for kee spares for all the different types of aircraft. Also, Indian pilots are already trained with Rafale. Eurofighter is a joint venture of England, Germany, Italy, and Spain. Even in the case of Gripen, it must be kept in mind that many important parts are supplied by non-Swedish Companies. This may create serious problems in getting spares during a war because the consent of all JV partners will be required. And France is a time-tested defense partner of India. So, Rafale should be the automatic choice. Selection should not be based entirely on price.

阵风是一款性能非常好的战机，已在印度空军服役，具备印度特色功能。

对维修人员来说，机库中有多种不同型号的飞机是一场噩梦。

为不同类型的飞机保存备件的库存费用也将非常高。

此外，印度飞行员已经接受过阵风战机的训练。欧

洲战斗机是英国、德国、意大利和西班牙的合资产品。

即使是鹰狮，许多重要部件是由非瑞典公司提供的。

这可能会造成严重的问题，在战争期间难以获得备件，需要所有合资伙伴的同意。

法国是印度久经考验的防务伙伴。所以，阵风应该是默认选择。选择不应该完全基于价格。

Sachin Mesta

Gripen is out, as we have LCA Mk2 that surpasses gripen

The race is between Rafale which has better position, F-15EX (dark horse) F/A-18 due to commonality of engines and parts (as Navy will take up to 36 F/A-18) and Eurofighter (which is just there to make up numbers.. Rafale 1 F-15 EX2 F/A-18 3

鹰狮出局了，因为印度国产的轻型战机光辉-Mk2超过了鹰狮

这场竞赛在阵风、F- 15ex(黑马)F/A-18和欧洲战斗机之间进行，阵风有优势，后者的发动机和部件都是通用的(海军最多将使用36架F/A-18)，欧洲战斗机是只是凑数的。1.阵风，2.F-15 EX，3.F/A-18

Dr Ganguli

Best to go for Rafale to have ease of operation and maintenance

最好是选择阵风战机，易于操作和维护

Every sane person knows the Rafale is already the winner. But, the way things work in this country, it'll take the decision makers 3 years to decide, another 2 years to finalize a deal with the manufacturer, import lobby will make sure they benefit the most monetarily out of the decision, one or two scandals, a few jobless politicians start screaming at each other lengthening the process by a few more years, and if the manufacturer is already not frustrated with this whole ordeal, it'll take them a year at least to finish the first aircraft, provided no other country has placed an order before us. We will have the AMCA before we get 114 new jets.

每个理智的人都知道阵风战机已经是赢家了。但是，印度这样的国家，决策者要花3年时间来做决定，再花2年时间与制造商敲定交易，进口游说将确保他们从这个决定中获得最多的金钱利益。

一两个丑闻，一些失业的政客开始吐槽，又将过程延长了几年，就算制造商对这整个磨难不感到沮丧，他们至少要花一年时间来完成第一架飞机。

Varun Saw

Hope we finalised this deal by 2047

希望我们能在2047年前完成这项交易

DireWolf

Typhoon is actually better suited for India.

Tejas and Typhoon are both made of composites, have similar avionics. There are future plans to ungrade the Tejas with EF Typhoon like systems too. The jets will complement each other well, but Rafale is what IAF will go for mostly because of logistics.

Unless EF Typhoon offers something IAF can't refuse.

“台风”战机实际上更适合印度。

“光辉”战机和“台风”战机都是复合材料制造的，有类似的航空电子设备。未来计划将“光辉”战机升级为“类似台风”的系统。这两种战机将很好地互补，但阵风是印度空军的主要选择，后勤保障。

除非“台风”能提供印度空军无法拒绝的东西。

Ankesh Tiwari

I think we should go for Rafale with manufacturing in India and if possible talk about technology transfer

我认为我们应该在印度生产“阵风”战机，如果可能的话，还可以谈谈技术转让

Aman Upadhyay

It's not just the aircrafts but the maintenance packages and ease of buiz also...Eurofighter will always be vulnerable over vetos by members of EU from time to time.

这不仅仅是战机的问题，还要考虑维修费用和购买便利度，买欧洲“台风”战机比较麻烦，容易受到欧盟成员国的否决。

Khaled Ashraf

Since IAF have Rafale, getting more rafale makes sense. They can go for Grippen if they want to minimize operational cost but I am not sure what Eurofighter brings to the table.

既然印度空军有阵风，那就再多买点阵风。如果他们想要最小化操作成本，可以选择鹰狮，但我不确定欧洲“台风”能带来什么。

Suraj pandit

I am hearing about this since i am started having interest in defence probably like 7-8 years

自从我开始对国防感兴趣大约7-8年以来，我就一直听说这个消息

Jay Bnglr

I would say go for 50% F 15 ex , which can carry 22 A to A missiles is a multirole fighter

And 50% for Rafale

And 1 f35 for each squadron for better situation awareness

要我说，一半买 F 15 ex，它可以携带22枚A对A导弹，是一种多用途战斗机

另一半买阵风战机，每个中队配备1架F-35，提高态势感知能力

Ranganath A

Jai hind jai Indian air force

印度必胜！印度空军必胜！

Hero007ization

Going ahead with Rafael is most logical as France is pretty independent in Geo Politics as well as it's time and tested jet.

选“阵风”是最合乎逻辑的，因为在地缘政治中，法国是相当独立的，而且“阵风”是久经考验的战机。

Vikrant Koner

For quick delivery get all three fighter jets in ratio of 114/3 = 38,38,38 because if any one fighter jet will selected that company will take more time to deliver the jets

为了快速交付，按114/3 ，38,38,38的比例，三款战机各买38架，因为如果选择其中一款，交付时间会很长

8_Aditya singh rawat

Indian airforce has already evaluated all the jets, they have chosen rafael after years of evaluation. Its just upon government to place the order.

印度空军已经对所有战机进行了评估，经过多年的评估，他们选择了“阵风”。政府应该下下单。

Youtube Comment

Among this Rafael is the better choice, typhoon already won against rafael and Gripen is for countries who can't afford above mentioned jets,I don't know why IAF can't decide

“阵风”是更好的选择，“台风”已经赢了“阵风”，“鹰狮”是为买不起前两款飞机的国家准备的，我不知道为什么印度空军还不做决定

papeng chan

By the time this deal concluded I would have got married got kids and even my kids would have had kids lol

到这笔交易结束的时候，我已经结婚生子了，甚至我的孩子也有孩子了，哈哈

mak animemafia

Personally I think we should give chance to Lockheed Martin TATA F21. It will a fresh start, with guaranteed production in India. I have no idea why our government is still looking. And for the time being order few more Rafale. People keep forgetting that Rafale was a short term solution. If we purchase more Rafale then by the time all 114 are delivered world will have 6th or 7th gen fighters.

我个人认为我们应该给洛克希德·马丁公司-塔塔的F21机会。这是一个全新的开始，能在印度生产。我不知道为什么我们的政府还在找。暂时多订几架阵风战机。人们总是忘记阵风战机只是一个短期的解决方案。如果我们购买更多的阵风战机，那么当所有114架交付时，已经有6代或7代战斗机了。

Soumya Prusty

i will be in my death bed when this acquisition will be finalized

当这次交易完成的时候，我都到弥留之际了

Ashish Bahadur

To develop good aircrafts India's aircraft industries need to be a part of international aircraft value chains. In the 21st century if India has to play an important role internationally, then It must have to have the capacity to build aircrafts in-house both for the international and domestic markets. Therefore India should not procure any fighter aircrafts without proper technology transfers.

为了研发好飞机，印度的飞机工业需要成为国际飞机价值链的一部分。在21世纪，如果印度想在国际上扮演重要角色，那么它必须有能力自主制造飞机，满足国内市场和国际市场。因此，印度不应该在没有适当技术转让的情况下采购战斗机。

courage thecowerdlydog

there should have been f--18 in this list

这个清单中应该有F-18

Yeka Aye

Better get a stealth fighter this time as we live in a hostile neighborhood

这次最好买隐形战斗机，周围都是充满敌意的邻居

jitendra semil

i have become older by 20 years n hearing the same ...

我老了20岁了，听到的还是同样的话……

Raj Chowdhury

Great going! hope deal will be done by 2032

太好了，希望在2032年完成交易

Sinatra

At this rate India will have developed its own 6 th generation aircraft before any orders are placed and then at that time no need to buy from abroad. Good strategy.

按照这个速度，在下单之前，印度就已经研制出了自己的第六代战机了，那时就不需要从国外购买了。好策略！

Supratik Roy

If we are determined to get a foreign jet, Rafale is the best choice unless F-35s are being offered which is highly unlikely. The whole Rafale deal scam hoopla by the opposition derailed the modernization of IAF.

如果我们决心购买外国战机，阵风战机是最好的选择，除非能买到F -35战机，但这是不太可能的。反对派的阵风交易骗局扰乱了印度空军的现代化进程。

Sagar Thakker

Sweden jas grippen is impressive they are even ready for tot it must be considered

瑞典的“鹰狮”令人印象深刻，他们都准备好了，必须考虑

Ranjit Sur

After 75 years of independence, India still cannot build its own state of the art fighter aircraft. So much for Atmanirbhar.

独立75年之后，印度仍然无法自主制造最先进的战斗机。“印度自力更生”不过如此！

Paavanavenkatesh PV

Must be self reliance not depend others...

必须自力更生，不能依赖他人…