If China and Japan go to war again, which side will South Korea aid?
如果中国和日本再次开战,韩国会选择支持哪一国?
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Goodi Shang
城门失火,殃及池鱼。(The gate caught fire and the fish in the moat died.)
There were moats in ancient Chinese cities.
中国古代的城市都有护城河。
South Korea is like fish in a moat. Don't think so much.
韩国就是护城河里的鱼。别自行加戏。
人为刀俎我为鱼肉。(They are kitchen knives and chop boards, and I am the fish on the chop board)
Korea is like the fish on the chop board. Don't think too much.
韩国就是菜板上的鱼。别自行加戏。
Hunter Corvus
As usual, the Wumao in the answers just claim that South Korea would join China. So absurd, but what’s new? The Wumao are so predictable with the crap they claim, it’s like a bunch of children almost.
As far as reality, of course if South Korea joined the war, it’s going on Japan’s side obviously. South Korea is allied to the USA, South Korea’s alliance with the USA is not purely to defend against NK, it’s also largely to stop the Chinese from thinking about invading South Korea via NK (remember nearly 1 million Chinese soldiers were in the last Korean war).
一如既往地,有些人宣称韩国将加入中国的阵营。太荒唐了,能不能有点新意?这些人的鬼话简直就是老调重弹,简直就是小孩子瞎搞。
就现实而言,如果韩国参战,显然会站在日本那边。韩国是美国的盟友,韩国与美国结盟并不纯粹是为了防御朝鲜,很大程度上还为了阻止中国通过朝鲜入侵韩国的企图(朝鲜战争时中国有有近100万名士兵参战)。
While South Korea is hardly pro-Japan, it’s actually more anti-China than it is anti-Japan. And on a military level South Korea has been in joint training groups with Japan, and both have an intelligence sharing pact (SK has none of these things with China). The answer is obvious, South Korea would side with Japan.
For South Korea it also gets something out of this war, if the side it’s on which includes Japan and probably the USA, it means that most likely China gets destroyed, which in turn means that SK can finally retake NK and unite the entire Korean peninsula under the ROK (since it’s actually China which prevents such a thing, if China was in ruins then SK could move into and take NK).
虽然韩国并不亲日,但反华情绪要更强一些。在军事层面上,韩国与日本一直结成联合训练小组,两国还签订了情报共享协议(而韩国跟中国没有签订这种协议)。所以答案很明显,韩国会站在日本一边。
韩国也并非无利可图,如果韩国支持的一方包含日本,或许还有美国,这意味着中国极有可能会遭受严重损毁,也就意味着韩国终于有机会夺回朝鲜,统一整个朝鲜半岛(因为事实上中国不允许这样的事情发生,如果中国已然是一片废墟,韩国就能乘虚而入,拿下朝鲜)。
Tisiphone Rose
Well, firstly, is it Japan that’s invading China again?
Or is it China invading Japan?
realistically speaking, there is almost no way both China and Japan will go to war without taking over Korea first (just because geographically, it is much easier for them to do so and makes more sense)
首先,是不是日本再一次入侵中国?
亦或是中国侵略日本?
说实在的,中国和日本都几乎不可能在不先占领朝鲜的情况下发动战争(很简单,因为在地理上,他们这么做更容易,也更有意义)。
The only scenario where maybe China and Japan will go to war while Korea is at a state where they’re just watching on the side waiting to “pick a side” is war over Taiwan. But in that case, it wouldn’t be China vs Japan but rather ROC vs PRC (internal Chinese war, with Japan coming in either as an ally or enemy)
中国和日本也许会开战,但韩国只会在一旁观战,等着“选边站队”,这种情况唯一的可能就是爆发台海战争。但如果真的如此,不会是中国对日本的战争,而是中国内战,日本只会作为盟友或作为敌人出现。
in conclusion, i don’t think Korea would be in a state to do anything if there were an actual war between China and Japan. Because for there to be a war between the 2 countries, Korea more than likely would have already been invaded and taken over. Similar to WW2.
Since the question uses the word “again”.
so I’m assuming it’s asking what side South Korea will pick if Japan were to invade China.
总而言之,如果中国和日本之间真的开战,我认为韩国不会采取任何行动。因为如果这两个国家开战,韩国很可能早就被入侵占领了。就像二战时那般。
既然提问中使用了“again(再次)”这个词。
所以我猜提问者想问的是,如果日本入侵中国,韩国会选择哪一边。
#1 scenario) war over Taiwan. More than likely South Korea would do anything to not be involved, and if they were forced to be involved, chances are, the older generations will pick China, while the younger generations will “pick Japan” (in actuality, it would be picking ROC, not Japan)
Reason for that is, Korea is still separated into 2 at this moment; North and South. In almost the same manner as to how China is separated into 2
第一种情况:台海战争。韩国肯定会不惜一切代价置身事外、独善其身,如果他们被迫卷入,很有可能老一辈人会选择中国,而年轻一代会“选择日本”(实际上,他们会选择中华民国,而不是日本)。
原因是,朝鲜至今仍被分割成北方和南方两个部分。无独有偶,中国也有同样的领土分割问题
There used to be a joke that to make a Korean friend immediately, you say 3 things to them.
kimchi is Korean, not Chinese
Dokdo/Takeshima is Korean, not Japanese
North Korea is not a country
我曾经听过一个笑话,要如果想迅速交到韩国朋友,就对他们说三件事。
泡菜是韩国的,不是中国的。
独岛(竹岛)是韩国的,不是日本的。
朝鲜不是一个国家。
and point #3 falls incredibly true for the older generations. Some South Koreans dream of wanting to take over North Korea and becoming one country in the same way some Chinese do with Taiwan. If South Korea were to stop China from going so, it would be ironically also going against what they’ve been preaching all their lives. That’s why I highly doubt Korea will be on Japan’s side in this situation; it blocks their own path of reunification of Korea Peninsula by doing so.
第3点对于老一辈来说就是真理。一些韩国人做梦都想收回朝鲜,成为一个统一的国家,就像一些中国大陆人对台湾地区的看法一样。如果韩国想阻止中国这样做,那就十分讽刺了,跟他们所宣扬的截然相反。这就是为什么我高度怀疑韩国会在这种情况下站在日本一边,这会阻碍朝鲜半岛的统一之路。
#2 scenario) Japan already taken over Korea and is now invading China again. In this case, I’m certain that Korea will take China’s side for obvious reasons.
keep in mind, this is all in the scenario of Japan invading China, if it were China invading Japan it would be a completely different story.
第二种情况:日本已经占领了朝鲜,现在又入侵中国。在这种情况下,我肯定韩国会站在中国一边,原因很明显。
请记住,这都是基于日本入侵中国的猜想,如果换做中国入侵日本,那又是完全不同的情况。
Pher Kimhuat
Not just South Korea, the whole of Korea (including the North) will take this opportunity to reunify and team up with China to attack Japan to express their extreme furies & angers over those sufferings caused by the cruel and merciless Japanese during WWII and also for South Korea to come out from the shadow of the US to reunify with the north.
不仅是韩国,整个朝鲜半岛(包括朝鲜)都将借此机会统一,并和中国联手反击日本,才足以宣泄他们对残酷无情的日本人在二战期间对他们所造成的痛苦的极度仇恨和愤怒,也希望韩国能摆脱美国的控制,与朝鲜实现统一。
Daniel Li
The United States currently liberalizes economic and military restrictions on Japan. Japanese politicians are pushing for the normalization of the Japanese state, meaning that Japan, which used to have only the right to self-defense, will later have the power and ability to carry out military operations abroad.
Today Japanese right-wing militarist politicians are still very active, distorting history textbooks and denying the crimes of massacre and plunder committed in World War II in areas including China, the Korean peninsula, and Burma, and the seeds of their foreign aggression and expansion still exst.
美国目前放宽了对日本的经济和军事限制。日本政界正在推动日本国家正常化,这意味着曾经只有自卫权的日本将在未来拥有在海外开展军事行动的权力和能力。
今天,日本右翼军国主义政客依然十分活跃,歪曲历史教科书,否认日本二战期间在中国、朝鲜半岛、缅甸等地犯下的大屠杀和掠夺罪行,对外侵略扩张的种子依然存在。
The U.S. purpose is clear: It wants to train Japan and South Korea as proxes to fight against China and Russia, just like Ukraine. If the Koreans forget what the Japanese did to their families in their homeland, and fight alongside the Japanese, they will be the joke of all of East Asia.
China will not invade any country, and for any diplomatic issue, China has always been the first to advocate a peaceful solution. China will not be the first to initiate a declaration of war against any country, but if any country declares war against China, China will never mind participating in a Korean War again.
美国的目的很明确:它想把日本和韩国训练成对抗中国和俄罗斯的傀儡,就像乌克兰那样。如果韩国人忘了日本人对他们的家人所做过的一切,跟日本人并肩作战,那他们必将成为整个东亚的笑话。
中国不会侵略其他国家,对于所有的外交问题,中国一贯都是第一个提出和平解决主张的国家。中国不会率先向任何国家宣战,但如果有国家向中国宣战,中国也不会介意再参加一次朝鲜战争。
Tony Histbook
The answer isn’t a straight forward one by any account but in a simplistic manner to just cover a few major points, S. Korea would support Japan. The reasons are quiet obvious.
A conflict between China and Japan will be conventional, not nuclear. However, China will look toward S. Korea as a potential adversary and threats will be directed at S. Korea with a note the any effort by S. Korea to support Japan would result in an expansion of the conflict to include S. Korea.
无论如何,答案不会是一目了然的,但只考虑几个关键点答案就很简单,韩国会支持日本。原因很明显。
中日之间的战争会克制在常规战争,不会是核战争。但中国会把韩国视为潜在对手,将威胁指向韩国,韩国支持日本的一切努力都将导致战火蔓延至韩国。
However, Japan has a security treaty with the US as does S. Korea making all military installation shared jointly with the US a potential target.
The general public will voice their support for S. Korea to stay out of the conflict but the presence of US military forces and their bases will be targets of opportunity for the Chinese.
不过日本和韩国都跟美国签署了安全条约,所有和美享的军事设施都成为了潜在的攻击目标。
普通民众会支持韩国置身冲突之外,但美国军队及其基地的存在将成为中国的机会目标。
In addition, N. Korea will side with China, historical connection, against Japan and N. Korea will threaten S. Korea and such threats will increase as will limited incursions against S. Korean territories as a means of enforcement.
In the end, any effort by the S. Korean government to distance themselves from the conflict would be a failure as it would open S. Korea up for eventual attacks by the Chinese and or the N. Koreans. Aside from having the US as an ally, S. Korea also needs Japan as an additional ally and a failure on the part of S. Korea to support the US in its effort to honor its commitment to Japan would isolate S. Korea from any military assistance from the US as an unreliable ally.
另外,朝鲜会支持中国,抗击日本,朝鲜也会威胁韩国,同时作为手段,也会增加入侵韩国领土的可能。
最后,韩国政府任何试图置身事外的努力都注定失败,因为这会让韩国受到中国或朝鲜的进攻。除了有美国这位盟友,韩国还需要把日本也发展成盟友,如果韩国不支持美国履行对日本的承诺,韩国将被孤立于美国的所有军事援助之外,成为一个不可靠的盟友。
Qi Chen
Related
Which country will South Korea side with if China fights Japan?
Koreans would rather see both China and Japan burn.
We have a joke in China:
Peace and cooperation between China and Japan is achieved by bashing Koreans.
Peace and cooperation between China and Korea is achieved by bashing Japanese.
Peace and cooperation between Korea and Japan is achieved by bashing Chinese.
Duh, we are regional competitors. No one like to see the competition becomes stronger.
如果中国进攻日本,韩国会站在哪个国家那边?
韩国人巴不得中国和日本两败俱伤。
中国人有个笑话:
中国和日本的和平与合作是通过暴揍韩国人来实现的。
中国和韩国的和平与合作是通过痛扁日本人来实现的。
韩国和日本的和平与合作是通过欺负中国人来实现的。
我们是地区竞争对手。没有谁愿意看到竞争越来越激烈。
Im Yang Gyoon
If China and Japan go to war again, which side will South Korea aid?
Both Japan and China are countries that have nothing to do with Korea.
Therefore, Korea does not intervene in the war between the two countries.
However, South Korea and the United States are allies.
If the United States asks South Korea for its allyship obligations to help Japan, then of course South Korea should help the United States.
如果中日再次开战,韩国会帮助哪一方?
日本和中国都是跟韩国毫无关系的国家。
所以韩国不会介入两国之间的战争。
但韩国和美国是盟友。
如果美国要求韩国履行盟友义务帮助日本,那么韩国理所应当帮助美国。