Is the Nepal-India relations similar to Vietnam-China relations?

尼泊尔和印度的关系与越南和中国的关系类似吗？

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Homer Pang

I find an interesting circle in Chinese history. When China was busy with wars against its northern neighbors, Vietnamese would steal some lands from China. After finishing the war in the north, China usually had to start extra wars in the south to get those lands back. This circle actually had been seen several times in history. But right now it is just a little more complicate for China to get back the lands stolen by Viet when China was dealing with the threaten from the USSR, since Viet have someone strong enough to back them up.

我在中国历史中发现了一个怪圈。只要中国跟北方邻国打仗，越南人就会偷走中国的一点领土。等中国跟北方打完仗，往往又得在南方宣战，夺回那些领土。这个怪圈在中国历史上出现过数次。但对中国而言，现在如果想要夺回越南趁着中国对付苏联威胁时偷走的领土，情况变得有点复杂了，因为越南找到了个强有力的靠山。

I think India is lucky…at least Nepol would never try to invade India.

我觉得印度挺走运的，起码尼泊尔绝不可能入侵印度。

Ngô Xuân Kỳ

What do you think of the relationship between China and Vietnam?

It’s complicated. China and Vietnam enjoy fast growing bilateral trade and cooperation in many fields but they also disagree on many things.

If you have been following the news about Vietnam for the last few days, you most probably have heard (from the BBC) that China is pushing Vietnam to abandon the oil project Block 07/03 off Vietnamese shore.

您如何看待中越关系？

中越关系很复杂。中越两国的双边贸易和各领域合作发展迅速，但在许多问题上也存在分歧。

如果你最近一直关注越南新闻，你很可能已经听到了(BBC新闻)中国正在敦促越南放弃在越南海岸的07/03地块石油项目。

What you have probably missed are similar blocks nearby like Lan Tay and Lan Do. All have been met with Chinese pressure since the begng but nevertheless went through. Block 07/03 is facing the same situation.

The Blue Whale (Ca Voi Xanh) project between PetroVietnam and ExxonMobil will be an even more interesting case due to its sensitive location.

Vietnam has been inviting countries to explore oil in its EEZ, including Russia, UK, India and now Italy.

你可能不知道的是，岚台和岚道附近的几个地块都发生过同样的情况。一开始都遭遇了中国方面的压力，但都成功了。07/03地块也面临着同样的情况。

由于敏感的地理位置，越南石油公司和埃克森美孚公司合作的蓝鲸项目将更加引发关注。

越南一直在邀请其他国家在其专属经济区勘探石油，包括俄罗斯、英国、印度，现在还有意大利。

Anonymous

Short Answer: No

Long Answer:

In many ways, it is like China-Pak relationship, but still not entirely.

简单一点说：不像。

展开说说吧：

在很多方面，印度和尼泊尔的关系就像中国和巴基斯坦，但还是有不同之处。

1..China and Pak have no ethnic/cultual connect. China treats Pak as their ‘step little brother’ and Pak Govt happily accept that fact. They sit in China’s lap.

1.中国和巴基斯坦的民族和文化并不相通。中国把巴基斯坦当做小兄弟，而巴基斯坦政府也心甘情愿地接受了这个事实。他们是在抱中国的大腿。

2. people of Pak have no other option left but to accept this fact but to take whatever china throws at them just because they are economically heavily depend on China. Plus, their big fat ego does not allow them to bend before their actual big brother - India.

2.巴基斯坦人别无选择，只能接受这一事实，但他们只是因为经济上严重依赖中国才如此低声下气。另外，他们的自尊心让他们无法屈从于真正的兄长—印度。

3. However the people of Pak is not completely in romance with China. Only their Govt is.

3.巴基斯坦人其实并未完全被中国收买。但巴基斯坦政府已彻底屈从。

As for Nepal, they have strong cultural and economic ties and share a common ethnic. They have open border. Both citizens are allowed to visit, live and work in both countries without any visa or work permit. Infact there are around 40k Nepalese serving in Indian army. You would not hear that kind of friendship anywhere else in the world very often.

至于尼泊尔，他们有着紧密的文化和经济合作关系，同属一个民族。他们有开放的边境。两国公民都可以在不需要签证或工作许可的情况下往来旅游、生活和工作。事实上，大约有4万尼泊尔人在印度军队中服役。在全世界都找不到第二份同样的友谊。

India considers Nepal as their little brother for some reason. Both Nepalese people and their DO NOT like it. They want India to treat them as equel. Nepal heavily depends on India for its day today trade as it is a land locked country. But, unlike Pakistan Nepal has another option. ie to side with China to get some leverages from them and possibly intimidate India since China is India’s rival (in India’s eyes)

印度把尼泊尔当做自己的小弟。尼泊尔人民对此颇有微词。他们希望印度能够平等地对待他们。尼泊尔是一个内陆国家，在贸易上严重依赖印度。但跟巴基斯坦不同，尼泊尔还有另一个选择—选择中国，从中国获得一些好处。鉴于中国正是印度的对手（在印度看来），可能还能吓唬吓唬印度。

Point 3. It is a slightly different scenario here. Most Nepalese are neutral when it comes to the ‘Love factor’ towards India and China. However, there is a niche percent of Nepalese who are slanted towards India. As for the Nepalese Govt, they LOVE China while their people really do not. PS: Both Chinese and Nepalese regimes are and they are natural allies.

第3点，还有一个细微的差别。当谈到对印度和中国的“爱的理由”时，大多数尼泊尔人其实并没有明显偏好。但也有一小部分尼泊尔人倾向于印度。至于尼泊尔政府，他们喜欢中国，但他们的人民并不喜欢。附言：中国和尼泊尔是天然的盟友。

Hope I answered your question. Excuse my broken English.

希望我解答了你的提问。我的英语不好，让大家见笑了。

Weilai Sima

No.

India and Nepal are twins.

As the Buddha come from Nepal，and Buddhism is seen as India religion.

They share same culture at the begng.

China and Vietnam are ex-lovers.

Vietnam learn a lot of thing from China at cohibitation and later.

不。

印度和尼泊尔是双胞胎。

佛陀来自尼泊尔，佛教被视为印度宗教。

他们有着相同的文化根源。

中国和越南是分了手的恋人。

越南从中国那里学到了很多东西。

Ankit Bhowmik

No not at all India-Nepal relation is not similar to Vietnam-China relation because India is not trying to grab the territory of Nepal while China claims South China Sea which is defined as “Nine Dash Line” as their entire territory thus denying the rights which Vietnam has over South China sea.

不，印度和尼泊尔的关系跟越南和中国的关系完全不一样，印度可从未夺取过尼泊尔的领土，但中国声称南海全部属于中国，不承认越南在南海的领土主张。

While India haven't claimed Kathmandu to be their territory we haven't sended our soldiers to occupy Nepal no war was fought in between India and Nepal while Sino-Vietnamese war was fought between China and Vietnam. India haven't denied any rights of Nepal. And Nepal supports India's permanent unsc seat.

印度从未主张加德满都是印度的领土，也没有派兵占领尼泊尔，印度和尼泊尔之间没有战争，但中国和越南之间爆发过中越战争。印度从未否认过尼泊尔的任何权利。而且尼泊尔支持印度成为联合国安理会常任理事国。

So India-Nepal relation is not similar to China-Vietnam relation India supports Nepal with economic aid and develo Infrastructure though there are some border issues between India-Nepal but they are not like the border conflict between Russia-Ukraine

所以印度和尼泊尔的关系不像中国和越南，印度通过经济援助和基础设施建设来支持尼泊尔，尽管印度和尼泊尔之间确实存在一些边境问题，但是跟俄罗斯和乌克兰之间的边境冲突完全不能比。

Umesh Kumar Rai

I think answer of Alok Sharma is enough here to explain whether the Nepal-India relations similar to Vietnam-China relations or not.

我认为Alok Sharma的回答已经很清楚地解释了尼泊尔和印度的关系跟中国和越南究竟像还是不像了。

Jacques Văn Khải

I don't think Nepalis will understand but let's be fair, you Nepalis are, in a bit, luckier than Vietnamese than anytime you mention

我认为尼泊尔并不明白，但说良心话，尼泊尔的运气一直都要比越南好上一点。

You fought for illegal wars for the Indians, but at least you have never been invaded. China invaded us many times and they are even violating Vietnamese sea border.

你们为印度人的非法战争卖命，但至少你们从未被侵略过。而中国多次入侵过我们，他们甚至还侵犯过越南的海上边界。

You get imposed by India? Okay. Here, Chinese immigrants are stealing Vietnamese resources. Happy now? And China pollutes our country, get it?

I am typically Vietnamese of Chinese origin, so this is what I want Nepalis to know. We fought, and keep working with them. We watch Chinese dramas and we may use Chinese stuffs, but if China attacks us we will retaliate back. We taste for thousand years, unlike Nepalis with different history toward India

你被印度骗了？行，你要知道，中国移民正在越南窃取自然资源。现在你们满意了吗？中国污染了我们的国家，明白吗？

我是典型的华裔越南人，我想让尼泊尔人知道这一点。我们之间打过仗，又继续与他们合作。我们看中国的电视剧，可能会用中国的商品，但如果中国入侵我们，我们一样会报复。我们就这样过了几千年，这跟尼泊尔和印度的历史大不相同。

This is Vietnam. We work and fight together. In peace, we set jobs. In war we fight. This is what we deal with our giant Northern neighbor.

这就是越南。我们一起合作，也彼此开战。在和平时期，我们专心工作。在战争时期，我们奋起作战。这就是我们和大块头的北方邻国的相处方式。

Jamie Daniels

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Is Nepal to India, what Vietnam is/was to China?

I think there are similar there:

尼泊尔之于印度，就像越南之于中国？

我觉得他们很相似。

Nepal and India both share the basic value of being Hindu nation majority and Indian civilization. Along with India, Nepal is the other remaining Hindu state. But currently, Indianophobia in Nepal is rising due to many factors, such as smuggling, China, economic sanctions…

Vietnam and China both belong to Sinosphere world. Vietnam is heavily influenced by China and they are viewed as “little China”. But same as Nepal, hostile between Vietnam and China started many years in history and even the 1979 war is a painful memory. Sinophobia is common in Vietnam

尼泊尔和印度有着相同的基本价值观，都是印度教人口占多数的国家。除了印度，尼泊尔也是一个印度教国家。但目前因为走私、中国、经济制裁等诸多因素，尼泊尔的恐印症愈发严重……

越南和中国都属于汉化圈。越南深受中国影响，被视为“小中国”。但和尼泊尔一样，越南和中国之间的敌对关系在历史上已存在多年，甚至在1979年爆发了战争。恐华症在越南也很普遍。

Nepal and India have disputed over Kalapani region; but India and Nepal have never been to war and surprisingly, many Nepalis are living in India and sending money to Nepal, the largest foreign economic source of Nepal lies in India.

China and Vietnam are not in good term. I want to say again, China and Vietnam fought many times so anti-Chinese is common strongly. And there are not many Vietnamese living in China unlike Nepalis to India

尼泊尔和印度在卡拉帕尼地区存在争议；但印度和尼泊尔从未爆发过战争。许多尼泊尔人在印度生活，把钱寄回尼泊尔，尼泊尔最大的外国经济来源就是印度。

中国和越南关系不好。我想再说一遍，中国和越南打过不少仗，民众的反华情绪很普遍。与尼泊尔和印度不同的是，在中国生活的越南人并不多。

While I say yes in many terms of aspects, the differences also exst as well

虽然我提到的很多方面都很像，但还是存在一些不同之处。

Alok Sharma

No, India- Nepal relations are not similar to China-Vietnam relations.

First of all, India and Nepal have never gone to war as China-Vietnam have. This should be sufficient to answer but I will go a bit further.

Second, there are vast number of Nepalese living and earning in India and share a close people to people connect with India. I doubt that is true with China-Vietnam.

不，印度和尼泊尔的关系跟中国和越南的关系可不一样。

首先，印度和尼泊尔从未像中国和越南那样发生爆发过战争。这应该足以回答这个问题了，但我还想再深入聊聊。

其次，有大量尼泊尔人在印度生活、赚钱，跟印度有着密切的联系。但中越关系可能并非如此。

Third, India and Nepal are not fighting on any major territorial conflict as China and Vietnam on South China Sea and the world is watching.

Fourth, China and Nepal do not share as strong as friendship as India and Vietnam do.

Fifth, During the recent devastating earthquake in Nepal, India was the first country to send help into Nepal. Can you ever imagine that between China and Vietnam?

第三，印度和尼泊尔从未有过任何重大的领土冲突，但中国和越南在南海问题上发生过冲突，全世界都有目共睹。

第四，中国和越南之间的友谊不如印度和尼泊尔那样牢固。

第五，最近尼泊尔发生特大地震，印度第一个向尼泊尔提供援助。中国和越南之间能做到如此吗？

Last but not the least, India and Nepal share common interests. India treats Nepal as its younger brother and this relationship will last despite of a few small misunderstanding here and there.

最后，印度和尼泊尔有着共同的利益。印度视尼泊尔为弟弟，尽管存在一些小误会，但这种兄弟情是割不断的。

Nasraf Serzanli

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Is Nepal to India, what Vietnam is/was to China?

Being Pakistani, I say, yes.

Nepalis have tensions with India, due to the biggest reason: Kalapani. Nepal fears India would occupy their territory, as India has, successfully, forcing assimilation among the Gorkhas into the Indian society and now Indians dominate everything of Nepal. Nepal, is like, a little puppet of India. So even being Hindu majority, Nepalis have a lot of hostilities toward Indians.

尼泊尔之于印度，就像越南之于中国？

作为巴基斯坦人，我的回答是：没错。

尼泊尔与印度关系紧张，最大的原因在于卡拉帕尼。尼泊尔担心印度会占领他们的领土，因为印度已经成功地迫使廓尔喀人融入印度社会，现在印度人主宰了尼泊尔的一切。尼泊尔就像是印度的傀儡。所以即便印度教徒占多数人口，尼泊尔人对印度人也有深深的敌意。

Vietnamese have tensions with China due to its past. Most Westerners are very ignorant when they just criticize Vietnam without realizing how Chinese try to vandalize Vietnam for many years. Even belong to Sinosphere nations, China has been, cruelly, murdering many Vietnamese before. I was inspired by how Vietnamese fought China and kept up their identity. Thus, this was the reason why I started to suspect China since.

因为历史的关系，越南与中国之间局势较为紧张。大多数西方人非常无知，他们只知道批评越南，却不曾了解中国人多年来是如何破坏越南的。即便两国同属汉化圈国家，中国也曾杀害了很多越南人。越南人奋起反抗中国、保持独立的壮举令我深受感动。这也是我开始怀疑中国的原因。

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