Can foreigners fluent in Chinese who have completed their MD (doctorate) degree in China work in a Chinese hospital after graduation? If they can, will it be easy or difficult?
在中国取得医学博士学位、汉语流利的外国人毕业后能否进入中国医院工作?难吗?
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X ingye Huang
There is no reason why you can’t, but it’ll be extremely difficult. First of all it’ll be difficult for a foreigner to be fluent in Chinese to begin with. And fluent in Chinese in general is one thing, fluent in Chinese with medical terms is another. Most native Chinese aren’t “fluent” with Chinese medical terms. Secondly MD is a lengthy and very challenging procedure. Thirdly working in a Chinese hospital is rater stressful. Junior doctors often have to work in shifts and on call 24/7. Worklife as a doctor in China is completely different from that in, for example, the US or the UK. There are no GP/Referral systems in China so if you work in a big hospital in a big city you’d probably have to see hundreds of patients every single working day as they rush through the door.
能是能的,但极其困难。首先,对于一个外国人来说,想要达到中文流利程度本来就不容易。能做到日常中文沟通流利是一回事,但医学术语也达到流利程度又是另一回事。大多数中国人也达不到中文医学术语“流利”水平。其次,想获得医学博士是一个漫长且极具挑战性的过程。第三,在中国医院工作压力很大。新医生经常要轮班工作,全天候待命。中国医生的工作和美国或英国的医生完全不同。中国没有全科医生/转诊制度,所以如果你在大城市的大医院工作,可能每个工作日都要接诊数百名病人。
It’s not an easy job, not even for native Chinese. Would be 100X harder for a foreigner.
这不是一份轻松的工作,即便对中国人来说也是如此。对外国人来说更是难上百倍。
The Chairman's Bao
If you’ve already acquired an accredited medical degree in China then your next steps are as follows:
如果你已经在中国获得了认可的医学学位,你接下来的要做的是:
It’s crucial you obtain a 1 Year training placement/internship. If you’re unsure how, then your university should help you with this.
Apply, complete and pass the Medical Licensing Examination. Registration for this is typically between February and March of each year. The examination is quite extensive and it covers a practical skills test, a written test, topics ranging from immunology, pharmacology, psychology, sanitation, ethics, preventative care, reproductive systems and a range of diseases etc
If you fail this test and want to apply again, you must do your training/internship at another institute
获得一年的培训/实习机会,这至关重要。如果你不确定怎么做,你的大学应该帮你。
申请、参加并通过执业医师资格考试。注册时间一般在每年的2月到3月之间。考试内容很广,包括实践技能测试、笔试,主题包括免疫学、药理学、心理学、卫生、伦理学、预防保健、生殖系统和一系列疾病等。
如果这次考试不及格,想再次申请,就必须去另一家医院进行培训/实习。
It would be beneficial that your Chinese is to native level; making mistakes in such a setting can prove fatal. However, there are some international/private hospital which seek English speaking doctors.
We hope this has helped you and good luck!
如果你的中文能达到母语水平,那是大有助益的;毕竟犯错可能就是致命的。但有一些国际/私立医院需要会说英语的医生。
我们希望这对你有所帮助,祝你好运!
Kent Y Hu
I do not see why not, given that they fulfil all the required documentation to be employed and reside in China.
Avoiding a long winded answer, if they’re proficient enough in Chinese to have gone through med school in China, then there shouldn’t be an barriers to employment after graduation unless there was either an underlying racial issue on the employer’s side that would hinder their employment chances.
在我看来,没有理由不行,因为他们满足了在中国工作和居住的文件要求。
我不想发布长篇大论的回答,如果他们的中文足够熟练,也在中国读完了医学院,那么毕业后不应该有就业障碍,除非雇主有潜在的种族偏见来干扰他们的就业机会。
Freddie Zhou
Of course they can. the biggest difficult might be language barrier, visa and the certificate of being a doctor, plus homesickness. The rest will be easy.
当然可以。最大的困难可能就是语言障碍,签证和医生资质证明,再加上想家的心情。其他的都不难。
John Lombard
There are private clinics, and VIP areas in some hospitals, where foreign doctors can get jobs in China. I don’t know how difficult it is, but assume the standards would be quite high…I’d suspect that they’d want some degree of experience, but no idea what that would be.
有些医院有私人诊所和贵宾区,外国医生可以在这些地方找到工作。我不知道具体有多难,但我猜要求很高。他们可能会要求一定经验,但我也不清楚。
Your best bet to get clear info on this would be to contact one of the international health units in China. I’d suggest checking out “International SOS” and “Beiing United Family Hospital”.
要获得准确信息,最好的办法是联系在中国的国际卫生单位。我建议你查查“国际SOS”和“北京和睦家医院”。
Alfred W Croucher
Many foreign students, especially from the Sub-continent, study medicine in China. Sadly their degrees are neither recognized in China nor their home country as they do not get much access to Chinese hospitals during the course. They learn Mandarin but are taught in English so their Chinese is usually not great. The only opportunity they have is to return home and sit for exams put on by Western countries seeking doctors to work in their free hospitals and as GP’s. I believe they are a very good source of cheap doctors. I speak only from what I know of a huge cohort (circa 500) who were studying in Suzhou.
许多外国学生,尤其是来自印度次大陆的学生来中国学医。但遗憾的是,他们的学位在中国和原籍国都不被承认,因为他们在学习期间不会有太多进入中国医院实习的机会。他们会学习普通话,但老师用英语授课,所以他们的中文通常不会太好。他们唯一的机会就是回国参加西方国家组织的考试,西方国家通过这些考试为公立医院物色医生和全科医生。我相信他们是低薪医生的好来源。我说的只是我所知道的在苏州学习的一大群人(约500人)。
Alex Chen
I'm not qualified to answer, but I still want to add my thought.
我没有资格回答,但我还是想补充一下我的想法。
Its not that hard to fluent in Chinese as we can see a lot of foreigners speaking Mandarin or any Chinese ascent fluently today. Get a uni entrance for bachelor degree requires gaokao results and Chinese uni do not welcome older people passed teens. But doctor, I don't know. For medical schools, from what I hear from my classmates, you need 7 years to graduate from school and at least 3 years of practitioner and then, you are a doctor in your profession.
说一口流利的中文并不难,我们现在看到不少外国人能说一口流利的普通话或其他方言。想要获得大学本科学位需要有高考成绩,中国大学不欢迎超龄学生。但至于医生,我不知道。至于医学院,我听同学说过需要学习7年才能从学校毕业,并至少有3年的从业经历,才能成为专业领域的医生。
To Chinese, practitioner or even medical students are treat like doctors. Dentists are also doctors. Anyone solve disease are doctors.
To sum up:
It's easier than USA or Australia, but still very difficult.
You cannot use your Chinese medic certificate to any other country as a doctor.
You need to get rid of Chinese language barrier.
对中国人来说,医生甚至医科学生都可以享受医生一样的待遇。牙医也是医生。能解决疾病的人都是医生。
总结如下:
比在美国或澳大利亚容易,但还是挺难的。
你不能用中国的医生证书去其他国家当医生。
你还需要克服中文语言障碍。
Li Yu Tong
A2A:
Can foreigners fluent in Chinese and have earned an MD (doctorate) degree in China work in a Chinese hospital after graduation? If so, will it be difficult?
I think it is possible, though the process etc. might be quite troublesome as the foreigner need apply for working visa.
谢邀:
中文流利且在中国取得博士学位的外国人毕业后能否在中国医院工作?会很困难吗?
我认为这是有可能的,虽然过程可能很麻烦,外国人必须申请工作签证。
Elsa Hu
You'll have great difficulties:
1, you don't have resources in China, good hospital are usually public hospitals.
2, your patients will be mainly Chinese, is your Mandarin good enough to understand different accents of it ?
3, can you fit in the Chinese culture/ environment?
你会遇到很大的困难:
1、你在中国没有什么社会资源,好医院通常都是公立医院。
2、你的病人主要会是中国人,你的普通话能好到听得懂不同的口音吗?
3、你能适应中国的文化/环境吗?
But you can open a clinic in China aiming at foreigners, foreigners normally trust foreigners more, and some rich Chinese will also visit you.If you are a dentist, that's even better!
但你可以在中国开一家面相外国人的诊所,外国人通常更信任外国人,有些中国富人也会去找你看病。如果你是牙医,那就更好了!
Janet Xu
There are so many kinds of Chinese medicine. A foreigner who learns Chinese medicine in China will be still very difficult to work in China's hospitals. Many Chinese students find it very hard to remember the names of Chinese traditional medicine. How can a foreigner remember them? I think Chinese medicine must be the most difficult and complicated subject in the world.
中药种类太多了。一个在中国学习中医的外国人,是很难进入中国的医院工作的。很多中国学生都很难记清中药的名称。外国人要怎么记?我认为中医肯定是世界上最难、最复杂的学科。
Frederic Ulric
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How can a Non-Chinese become a Doctor in China?
Education is highly valued in Chinese culture. So you’ll need to get this in order. Also, China recently instituted a rule that you need a Bachelors degree at the minimum, to work here, I think.
外国人如何在中国成为医生?
中国文化非常重视教育,所以你的成绩要好。此外,中国最近制定了一项规定,我认为,在中国工作至少需要获得学士学位。
You should also be prepared to learn the language. But given it’s medicine, that can be a monumental challenge. So your best chance would probably be to get educated, whether here or elsewhere and then apply for a job at a private practice wherein English is spoken - these places do exst and serve as a welcome thing for the foreigners who don’t want to visit non-English speaking hospitals or clinics.
你还应该做好学习中文的准备。但你要学的是药学,这可能会是一个巨大的挑战。所以你最好在中国还是在其他地方好好深造,再去使用英语的私人诊所找份工作——确实有这样的诊所存在,那些不想去中国本土医院或诊所的外国人喜欢去这些诊所。
Deven Sharma
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What are the pros and cons of studying medical in China?
Pros:-
5-year course.
Good infrastructure, study, and hospital tie-ups.
Cost effective.
If you do your internship in China it will be valid in India.
在中国学医的利与弊是什么?
好处:
5年制课程。
基础设施、学习条件和医院协作比较好。
花销较少。
如果你在中国实习过,印度也承认。
Con:-
A limited number of seats in each university. You might not get admission to your chosen university.
The issuance of JW-202 (Invitation letter) takes a lot of time. And even after waiting for months it might not be issued.
Only 45 universities provide medical studies in English language and 214 universities in bilingual. If you choose a bilingual university then you have to study in the Chinese language after your second year which is very difficult to cope up with.
弊端:
每所大学的名额有限。你可能无法被你心仪的大学录取。
JW-202(邀请函)的签发时间比较长。有可能等了几个月也无法获批。
只有45所大学提供英语医学课程,214所大学提供双语教学。如果你选择了双语大学,那么你在第二年之后就必须改用中文学习,难度很高。
Gentry Toman
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I’m planning to study medicine in China and I’ve seen some comments that China is not the best direction to study medicines. Can you give me more info?
我计划在中国学医,我看到一些评论说中国不是最好的学医方向。你能给我更多的信息吗?
I am not a doctor, but I have lived in China and been to Chinese hospitals many times. The first thing to know about China is that the trust in Chinese/Western medicine is about 50/50. For most non-lethal things, the majority of (especially older) Chinese people will go get traditional Chinese medicine before turning to western medicine, or at the very least, they will use both at the same time. There are a lot of beliefs in China about temperature impacting your health (ex: your acne is caused by too much heat, whether that means you ate too much beef or drank too much alcohol, etc.). So, this is something you are going to have to be aware of if you are going to be treating Chinese people.
我不是医生,但我在中国生活过,去过中国的医院很多次。首先你要知道,中国对中、西医的信任度大约是50%对50%。对于多数不致命的病情,大多数中国人(尤其是老年人)会选择中药而非西药,或者会同时使用两种药物。中国有很多关于体温影响健康的说法(比如:痤疮是因为上火引起的,这意味着你牛肉吃太多了,或者酒喝太多了,等等)。所以,如果你要招待中国人,必须注意这些事。
Another thing to keep in mind is that most Chinese hospitals are not as clean, private, or organized as they are in the US. Healthcare is much cheaper, and the population is much higher, so the standards aren’t quite the same.
另一件需要记住的事情是,大多数中国医院不像美国医院那么干净、私密或有秩序。医疗费用低很多,人口多很多,所以标准不太一样。
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