马克龙联合中国筹划俄乌谈判，将俄罗斯和乌克兰带到谈判桌上

Macron 'working on secret plan' with China to end Ukraine war

马克龙与中国“秘密计划”结束乌克兰战争

Emmanuel Macron is said to be drawing up secret plans with China to bring Russia and Ukraine to the negotiating table “by this summer”.

The plans were branded “dangerous” by Tobias Ellwood, chair of the defence select committee while Sir Iain Duncan Smith, former Tory party leader, described the French president as a “snake in the grass”.

Mr Macron has tasked Emmanuel Bonne, his foreign policy adviser, to work with Wang Yi, China’s top diplomat, in establishing a framework that could be used as the basis for future negotiations, reports suggested on Tuesday.

The French believe talks between Russia and Ukraine could happen as soon as this summer, anonymous sources told Bloomberg.

Any future negotiations would be dependent on several conditions, including a Ukraine’s spring offensive succeeding, putting Kyiv in a position of strength during talks, sources said.

据说埃马纽埃尔·马克龙正在与中国制定秘密计划，“在今年夏天之前”将俄罗斯和乌克兰带到谈判桌上。

国防特别委员会主席托比亚斯·埃尔伍德称这些计划“危险”，而前保守党领袖伊恩·邓肯·史密斯爵士则将法国总统描述为“草丛中的蛇”。

周二有报道称，马克龙已责成其外交政策顾问Emmanuel Bonne与中国最高外交官王毅合作，建立一个可作为未来谈判基础的框架。

匿名消息人士告诉彭博社，法国人认为俄罗斯和乌克兰之间的谈判最快可能在今年夏天举行。

消息人士称，未来的任何谈判都将取决于几个条件，包括乌克兰春季攻势的成功，让基辅在谈判中处于有利地位。

以下是美国reddit的评论：

facedownbootyuphold

It’s not very secret that Macron is trying to bolster his support in France and the EU, he’s going all-in on being some sort of mediator that averted a global conflict, a sort of magical, mythical lynchpin between east and west. In his mind if he accomplishes this he will catapult his image internationally and France along with it. Of course, should he fail, he will look like an Ephialtes.

众所周知，马克龙正在努力提高自己在法国和欧盟的支持率，他正在全力以赴地成为某种避免全球冲突的调解人，东西方之间神秘的关键人物。在他看来，如果做到了这一点，他将在国际上提升自己的形象，法国的地位也将随之提升。当然，如果他失败了，他就成了厄菲阿尔特斯。

Affectionate-Wind-19

I am sorry but macron has a history of being to trusting of drs.

before the begng of the war on Ukraine macron had a lot more information then you and I about what is happening in Ukraine, from his own country's intelligence and USA intelligence and he just plain and simple ignored the evidence because it contradicted his own personal view of the situation. he is unqualified to lead any talks relating to other people's countries and we should know that by now. the USA and most of Europe is acting based on evidence and macron is acting based on feel.

很抱歉，但马克龙有信任专横者的历史。

在乌克兰战争开始之前，马克龙从他自己国家的情报和美国的情报中获得的关于乌克兰的信息比你我多得多，他却忽视了这些证据，因为这些证据与他个人对局势的看法相矛盾。他没有资格领导与其他国家有关的任何谈判，我们现在应该知道这一点。美国和大多数欧洲国家是根据证据行事，而马克龙是根据感觉行事。

mediandude

Which is a more likely outcome on Macron's meddling: confuse China's elite or confuse the people in the West?

马克龙干预的结果更有可能是哪一个：让中国精英感到困惑，还是让西方民众感到困惑？

JonnyArtois

Fortunately the French voters saw through it.

I mean, not sure they saw through it considering how many voted for the far right.

幸运的是，法国选民看穿了这一切。但我不确定他们是否看透了，因为有那么多人投票给极右翼。

chaos0xomega

Maybe he should work on a secret plan to stop the people of France from revolting against his government following his pension reform plan.

也许他应该制定一个秘密计划，阻止法国人民在他公布养老金改革计划之后反抗他的政府。

Gilgamesh72

Is france going to surrender to china ?

法国要向中国投降了?

roararoarus

France is trying to surrender on behalf of Ukraine to China

法国正试图代表乌克兰向中国投降

T_roy53

Ridiculousness… needs to spend more time with internal issues. When meeting with Putin he was at the big table, 500ft away and didn’t take the hint. Now meeting with China, will not hear anything about it but can assure everyone it is in the best interest of i.

荒谬，应该多花点时间解决内部问题。当与普京会面时，他坐在大桌子的另一头，500英尺开外，没有领会暗示。

Dyldor

Ah people here obviously aren’t aware of the British media’s intense hatred for the french

这里的人显然没有意识到英国媒体对法国人的强烈仇恨

Dral_Shady

Macron stay in France. The rest of us in EU do not want you to speak on our behalf. You are not an international leader.

You are a leader of France AND France ALONE!!

马克龙代表法国。我们欧盟其他成员国不希望你代表我们说话。你不是一个国际领袖。你是法国的领袖，而且只能是法国的领袖!

windigo3

Macron and China may work together withRussia to offer a peace deal where Russia gets to keep Crimea and then Ukraine will say fuck off.

马克龙和中国可能会与俄罗斯合作，提出一个和平协议，让俄罗斯保留克里米亚，然后乌克兰会说滚蛋。

Reddenied68

How very noble of them. Maybe Macron should be dealing with his own smoking country before he tries to sell other peoples ?

他们真是太高尚了，也许马克龙应该先处理好自己国家的糟心事，然后再想着出卖别人?

sogladatwork

Macron is a trump-level idiot if he thinks China wants to end this war out of benevolence.

如果马克龙认为中国是出于仁慈而结束这场战争，那他就是特朗普级别的笨蛋。

Own_Philosopher_9651

Macron is a political disaster

马克龙是一个政治灾难

CaregiverOk3379

Looks like he is just avoiding problems at home..

看来他只是在逃避国内的问题。

No_Weather_9145

Have they told Ukraine of this secret plan?

他们把这个秘密计划告诉乌克兰了吗?

lunahighwind

What a moron

真是个笨蛋

jeff43568

Is this the same China that refused to meet with Zelensky?

I'm almost sure those are going to be balanced and realistic negotiations....

这就是拒绝与泽连斯基会面的中国吗?

我几乎可以肯定，这些是平衡和现实的谈判

Jessica65Perth

It should only end with Russia leaving all of Ukraine including Crimea.

只应该以俄罗斯离开包括克里米亚在内的整个乌克兰而告终。

in2thegrey

Cool, he’s going to ask the Chinese to ask the Russians to leave Ukraine, remove Putin from power, and pay for the reconstruction of Ukraine. Way to go, Macron!

酷，他呼吁中国人要求俄罗斯人离开乌克兰，并为乌克兰的重建买单。干得好，马克龙!

psychowardPatient

Macron needs to spend more time fixng his own country, what a mess. Having a plan from a fool to fix someone else's issues ... ?

马克龙需要多花时间来修复自己的国家，真是一团糟。从一个傻瓜那里得到解决别人问题的计划？

Stezheds

It involves surrendering i bet

我打赌，这涉及到投降

Why_not_dolphines

Thought Ukraine decided what was best for themselves, not France nor China.

我以为应该由乌克兰决定什么对自己最有利，而不是法国或中国。

fearless123we

he is playing with fire, nothing gonna change with happy ending.

他这是在玩火，什么都不会改变，皆大欢喜的结局。

independent200

Macron is deluded.. He thinks China would allow Russia to lose this war hence the chinese are further away then He realizes.. Their entire security is at stake if Russia is beaten here they will kiss goodbye to Taiwan.. From a chinese Perspective it is important Russia defeats Ukraine

马克龙被骗了…他认为中国会让俄罗斯输掉这场战争，因此中国人比他想的要远得多。他们的整个安全都受到威胁，如果俄罗斯在这里被打败，他们将与台湾吻别。从中国的角度来看，俄罗斯击败乌克兰很重要

SlovenianStallion

This guy is a tool. Terrible at solving domestic issues, terrible at trying to solve international issues.

这家伙就是个工具。不擅长解决国内问题，也不擅长解决国际问题。

Few-Sock5337

This guy is unbelievably so full of himself.

这家伙太自以为是了。

PoochyMoochy5

Macron wants Ukraine to learn from modern France.

Surrender Surrender Surrender. And then somehow take your place in the world as a “victor”.

马克龙希望乌克兰向现代法国学习，投降，投降，投降，投降。然后以胜利者的身份在世界上占有一席之地。

Gifty666