为什么印度要加入金砖，我们应该在美国的帮助下创立自己的组织

Why should we Indians be part of the BRICS? Should we not pull out of this nonsense and start our own with the help of America?

为什么我们印度人要加入金砖国家？难道我们不应该摆脱这些闹剧，在美国的帮助下创立自己的组织吗？

以下是Quora网友的评论：

Rajeev Tyagi

How did BRICS help India?

BRICS Stands for

Brazil

Russia

India

China

South Africa

THese 5 countries have a tie-up to promote economics, defence, and many other areas for each other.

金砖国家对印度有什么助益？

金砖国家BRICS代表：

巴西

俄罗斯

印度

中国

南非

这5个国家在促进经济、国防和许多其他领域相互合作。

on Diplomacy & Warfare

India should develop whatever alliances make sense for India. If BRICS makes no sense and does not benefit India significantly, India probably needs to leave BRICS.

What would probably make sense is to start an alliance with the key trade and investment partners from the smaller Indo-Pacific nations in areas and industries with projects and partners worth investing into and showing some sort of potential joint benefit, ROI or offset.

Without a business proposition, all that investment alliances are is a handout for questionable projects.

印度应该创立对印度有意义的联盟。如果金砖国家对印度没有意义，没有好处，印度可能得退出金砖集团了。

对印度而言，可能有意义的做法是和印度太平洋地区的小国等贸易和投资伙伴联手，在值得投资并有回报潜力的项目和合作伙伴所在地区和行业组建联盟。

如果没有商业主张，所有的投资联盟都会在有问题的项目上浪费资金。

on Diplomacy & Warfare

Yes, India should leave BRICS, as well as SCO. You didn’t join RCEP because of China.

India should be an alliance of one

Why would the U.S. be interested in hel India? What possible benefits could the U.S. get out of any alliance with India? We already have India in QUAD and that’s really the only geopolitical value India has with the U.S. But the fawning outreach by Biden to get Modi to be on the U.S. side militarily just shows the U.S. view that India’s QUAD commitment has been token at best. If nothing can be gotten out of this, what’s the use of any other alliance with India?

是的，印度应该离开金砖国家和上合组织。你们加入区域全面经济伙伴关系协定（RCEP）也不是因为中国。

为什么你觉得美国有兴趣帮助印度？美国能从和印度结盟中得到什么好处呢？我们已经允许印度加入“四国战略伙伴关系”（QUAD）了，这是印度对美国唯一存在的地缘政治价值。但拜登讨好莫迪，让莫迪在军事上支持美国，表明美国认为印度对“四国战略伙伴关系”的承诺充其量只是象征性的。如果这样都于事无补，那和印度结盟还有什么用?

India has been utilizing its non-alliance foreign policy for decades - playing all sides to get what they can get for India. It’s transactional and the only lasting relationships it has is with Russia because of the substantial economic and military assistance Khrushchev provided, including saving India from being invaded by the U.S. and the U.K. in 1971. And even this is for sale with Modi agreeing to defense pact with the U.S. during his visit.

Who can trust India? If India were to open up membership to its own alliance, who would even be interested?

几十年来，印度一直在利用其不结盟的外交政策游走于各方之间，为印度谋取最大的好处。这是一种交易，印度拥有的唯一持久的关系是和俄罗斯的关系，因为赫鲁晓夫为印度提供了大量的经济和军事援助，包括在1971年出兵帮助印度免遭美国和英国的入侵。即便如此，莫迪在访美期间也会把印俄关系暂时搁置一边，与美国签署印美防务协议。

谁会相信印度？如果印度组建自己的联盟并开放成员国申请资格，谁会感兴趣呢？

BTW: If you consider BRICS setting up an alternative to the current unipolar order to be nonsense, what kind of alliance do you see as worthwhile for India? I guess India can’t get much out of this anyway because very few would be willing to accept rupees for their direct trade exchange. Of all the indignities, Modi had to use the yuan because they rejected the rupee.

顺便说一句：如果你认为金砖国家是可以替代当前单极秩序的联盟纯属无稽之谈，那么你认为什么样的联盟对印度来说才是有价值的？我猜印度在金砖中应该无利可图，因为没有什么国家愿意接受卢比作为贸易直接结算货币。莫迪不得不忍受种种侮辱，使用人民币，因为其他国家都拒绝使用卢比。

on Diplomacy & Warfare

Agreed completely.

And can you also withdraw from the Shanghai Cooperation Organization as well?

You guys have a born talent to marginalize every organization you are part of.

完全同意。

你们能不能也退出一下上海合作组织？

你们印度人天生就有本事让自己在所在组织里边缘化。

Ramu R

BRICS should first think India as nonsense and kick out so they can develop. If they have India , Indians will make them too corrupt and will stop development. On other hand USA think they are superpower. They know India is a slave country and corrupt guys. So they won't join with India.

金砖国家才应该率先把印度当做刺头踢出去呢，这样金砖才能良性发展。如果他们留着印度，印度人会把他们扯入腐败泥潭，停滞不前。另一方面，美国觉得自己是超级大国。他们知道印度只是一个奴隶国家，一窝子腐败，所以他们是不会和印度走太近的。

Subodh Mathur

Should India keep working with BRICS?

BRICS is a dead topic. It’s over. Brazil’s economy is in bad shape. Russia is on its own trip. India and China are no longer co-operating. South Africa is in terrible shape.

So, it’s over. Let India focus on itself, and figure out how to deal with China.

印度应该继续和金砖国家合作吗？

金砖国家早就死气沉沉了，已经是过去式了。巴西的经济状况不佳。俄罗斯也自顾不暇。印度和中国终止合作。南非一塌涂地。

所以金砖已经是名存实亡了。印度把注意力放在自己身上吧，多想想怎么对付中国。

Ishaan Shetye

What is the economic benefit to India for being a member of BRICS?

The most significant economic benefit would be that India would be given the 1st preference along with the 5 other member nations to borrow from the BRICS Bank, as and when it takes shape. this is essential for a country, which needs billions to fund infra projects. Secondly, India will have the right of 1st refusal to refuse or deny loans to any institution. This will increase its political influence over the globe. Thirdly, Indian products will find open markets in the other 5 nations due to the different trade agreements that have taken shape since BRICS was initiated. the most imaginative reason however, is that if India faces any more US or UN sanctions tomorrow ( god forbid) , then its interests in BRICS shall remain guarded, unless it is stripped of membership.

印度成为金砖国家成员国，有什么经济好处？

最重要的经济利益，在于印度将和其他5个成员国一起，在金砖国家银行成立后获得第一优先贷款。

这对于一个需要数十亿美元建设基础设施的国家来说具有非常重要的意义。

其次，印度将拥有否决权或拒绝向任何机构发放贷款的第一优先拒绝权。

这能提高印度在全球的政治影响力。第三，由于金砖国家成立后订立的不同贸易协定，印度产品将在其他5个国家找到开放的市场。

不过最具想象力的理由是，如果印度未来面临美国或联合国制裁(上帝保佑千万别)，那么印度在金砖国家的利益也能继续受到保护，除非印度被剥夺了成员资格。

Ray Comeau

How viable is BRICS?

In 2001, a Goldman Sachs study caused great interest in saying in 50 years (2050) Brazil, China, India, Russia, South Africa "could be" among the world’s predominantly important economies. The forecast was based on the assumption these nations would outpace the G6 economy.

金砖国家靠谱吗？

2001年，高盛的一项研究称，50年后(即2050年)，巴西、中国、印度、俄罗斯和南非“可能”跻身世界主要经济体之列，这引起了全球的极大兴趣。这一预测是基于这些国家的经济增速将超过G6的假设。

Twenty years later, as at 2021 :

The GDP of the BRICS comprised of 13% of the G6 economy in 2001, while in 2021 it comprises 61%

The G6 grew at a CAGR of 3.3% over the last 20 years, compared to 11.5% for BRICS

二十年后，即2021年：

2001年，金砖国家的国内生产总值占G6经济总量的13%，而2021年已占到G6经济总量的61%。

过去20年，G6的年复合增长率为3.3%，而金砖国家的年复合增长率为11.5%。

Notes:

Yes the BRICS economies are outperforming the G6

The growth of the economies within each group are not equal

Each group contains one dominant economy

In addition to the economic aspect of the study, the world has seen a geopolitical landscape change in favour of BRICS, that extends beyond pure economics.

There is roughly another 30 years to go between now and 2050.

So far one can conclude BRICS to be viable.

是的，金砖国家的经济表现超过了G6

每个集团内部的经济增长都不可能完全平等

每个集团都有一个占据领袖地位的经济体

除了该研究提到的经济方面的变化，世界地缘政治格局也发生了有利于金砖国家的变化，这超出了纯粹的经济范畴。

从现在起到2050年，还有大约30年的时间。

从目前的情况判断，金砖国家绝对靠谱。

Riyan Immigration

What is the BRICS and does India want to expand it?

BRICS is an acronym for the association of five major emerging economies: Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. The BRICS countries are known for their significant influence on regional and global affairs and collectively represent a considerable share of the world's population, land area, and economic output.

什么是金砖国家？印度是否希望扩大金砖国家规模？

金砖国家是巴西、俄罗斯、印度、中国和南非这五个主要新兴经济体联盟的缩写。金砖国家在地区和全球事务中具有重要影响，人口、国土面积和经济总量在世界上占有相当大的比重。

The BRICS grou was formally established in 2006, and since then, the member countries have held annual summits to discuss and coordinate their positions on various economic, political, and social issues. The primary focus of BRICS has been to enhance cooperation, foster economic development, promote trade and investment, and improve the global governance system.

India has actively participated in BRICS and has expressed its interest in expanding the partnership. India sees BRICS as an important platform for collaboration among emerging economies and believes that the grou has the potential to contribute significantly to addressing global challenges and promoting inclusive growth.

金砖国家集团于2006年正式成立，从那时起，成员国每年举行峰会，讨论和协调他们在各种经济、政治和社会问题上的立场。加强合作，促进经济发展，促进贸易和投资，完善全球治理体系，是金砖国家合作的主要关注点。

印度积极参与金砖合作，并表示有意扩大金砖伙伴关系。印度认为金砖国家是新兴经济体合作的重要平台，相信金砖国家有潜力为应对全球挑战和促进包容性增长做出重大贡献。

In recent years, India has advocated for the expansion of BRICS to include other like-minded countries, particularly those from South Asia, Southeast Asia, and Africa. India's efforts to expand BRICS are aimed at increasing the group's representation, diversity, and effectiveness in addressing common issues and advancing shared interests.

However, any decision to expand BRICS would require consensus among the exsting member countries, and the process of expansion would involve careful consideration of various factors, including the potential benefits and challenges of including new members.

近年来，印度一直主张让其他志同道合的国家加入金砖国家，特别是南亚、东南亚和非洲国家。印度扩大金砖国家规模的努力旨在增加金砖国家在解决共同问题和促进共同利益方面的代表性、多样性和有效性。

但扩大金砖国家规模的决定需要现有成员国达成共识，在此过程中需要仔细考虑各种因素，包括吸收新成员的潜在好处和挑战。

Pete William

BRICS currency is pretty much to make RMB as proxy base for its members just like the Soviet Union used its currency to bypass the global system for their satellite allies. It broke Soviet Union and set EVERY one of its member nations into poverty.

India may be forced into BRICS due to reliance on cheap Russian energy being preferentially priced in RMB

金砖国家的货币基本上是将人民币作为其成员国的代理，就像苏联使用其货币为其卫星盟友绕过全球体系一样。苏联因此解体，所有成员国陷入贫困。

印度可能会被迫加入金砖国家，因为印度依赖廉价的俄罗斯能源供应，而俄罗斯能源优先以人民币计价。

Krishnamurthi Menon

BRICS offers opportunities to the world and to India. The US is on the skids, it is just a big market. It has little else to offer India. BRICS like the SCO are different opportunities which we would do ourselves and the world a disservice if we jumped ship.

金砖国家是世界的机遇，也是印度的机遇。美国正在走下坡路，就剩下一个广阔的市场了。美国没法再为印度提供什么了。金砖国家和上合组织提供了不同的机会，如果我们弃船而去，对我们自己和世界都是打击。

L.K.

Totally agree with you.

India should quit the BRICS, the Shanghai Cooperation Organization and continue to be a vassal of white. Please don’t play a role of shit stirrer in those two international organizations.

我完全同意你的看法。

印度应该退出金砖国家和上海合作组织，继续做白人的走狗。你们就别在这两个国际组织里搬弄是非了。

Elliott J. Schuchardt

What benefits will India get in BRICS?

India will presumably receive a portion of the revenue from the sale of the new reserve currency.

At this time, 100% of the proceeds from the dominant reserve currency go to the United States. These proceeds are a huge subsidy to a country that is already wealthy.

Under the new system, these proceeds will be divided among the owners of the BRICS bank.

印度加入金砖国家能得到什么好处？

印度可能会从出售新储备货币中获得一部分收入。

目前，占主导地位的储备货币，收益100%流向美国。这些收益对一个已经富裕的国家来说也是一笔巨额的补贴。

在新体系下，这些收益将在金砖国家银行的所有人之间进行分配。