500 J-20 : Should India Be Worried?

中国有500架歼-20：印度应该担心吗?

以下是Youtube上印度网民的评论：

@MrMarshallAC

Leave alone 500, even 200 hundred against 36 is no match. The option at hand is to improve air defences. Even if AMCA is approved today, it would take nearly a decade to get the required number of operational AMCA squadrons.

且不说500架，就算面对200架，36架阵风也不是对手。目前的选择是提升防空能力。即使印度国产五代机AMCA今天获得批准，也需要近十年的时间才能生产所需数量的AMCA中队。

@profbjbora

I have always maintained that whether we like it or not whether we accept it or not numerical superiority matters a lot if a considerably good equipment is acquired in formidable numbers. China follows Art of War concept overwhelming the enemy with numbers. Therefore I am not surprised if 500 or more of J20 are deployed along with other fighters like J31 etc. We need to find ways to fund our programmes and find ways to increase our quantity of the quality goods.

我一直认为，如果获得大量相当好的装备，无论我们喜欢与否，接受与否，数量上的优势都是非常重要的。中国遵循兵法，以数量压倒敌人。因此，如果他们部署500架或更多的歼-20、歼-31等其他战斗机，我并不感到惊讶。我们需要想办法为我们的项目提供资金，想办法增加优质产品的数量。

@absolutetruth7232

Fun fact AMCA hasn't even concluded it's development flight.

有趣的是，印度国产五代机AMCA甚至还没有完成研发。

@pradeepsaral6944

You can't ignore  J10 ,that's  also claimed to be a 4- 4.5 Generation  Plane with powerful  Radar & PL-15 BVR Missiles, Jamming capabilities.China is believed to have 400 J10s. Pak is also having  two squadrons  of J 10Cs with PL-15 (Export version).

不能忽视歼-10，它也被称为4- 4.5代战机，拥有强大的雷达、PL-15 BVR导弹和干扰能力。据信中国拥有400架歼- 10。巴基斯坦也有两个装备PL-15(出口型)的歼 - 10c中队。

@kaho6891-

The only logical way IAF can counter the numerical superiority threat of Chinese is deploying more home grown xrsam, ersam along with s400 on the lac.

I don't think even with few additional Rafael squadrons  or even f35, we can counter the 5gen Chinese aircraft immediate future. Also they can quickly replace the lost fighters in case of conflict, that luxury we can't afford until amca is developed which is atleast 10 years away.

印度空军对抗中国数量优势威胁的唯一合乎逻辑的方法是部署更多的国产xrsam，以及在实控线上部署S400。

我认为即使增加几个阵风或F35中队，我们也无法在不久的将来对抗中国的5代战机。此外，在发生冲突时，他们可以迅速弥补损失的战斗机，这种奢侈我们玩不起，要等AMCA开发出来，而这至少是10年之后的事情。

@rajatsushilsinghal5325

This mindset of getting overwhelmed and lead to varied responses. 1. Helplessness 2. Matching response 3. Innovation 4. Asymmetric counter-action. Interesting to see our policy makers response

这种不知所措的心态会导致各种各样的反应：

1.无助

2.对等反应

3.创新

4.不对等反制。

想知道我们印度的政策制定者对此会作何反应

@kingtheruler7892

The pace at which China is develo 5th generation stealth fighter is a real concern as the time will come when the entire fleet of Su-30 mki and Tejas mk1a will combine to match one on one against advanced chinese stealth jet J-20 which will be a pathetic situation for India. It would be like an untrained Indian woman with a knife goes in one on one fight against a trained martial art blackbelt man of china and we all know what will be the outcome in such scenario.

中国研发第五代隐形战机的速度，值得我们关注。总有一天，苏- 30MKI和光辉MK1A中队将结合起来，与中国先进的隐形战机歼-20进行一对一PK，这对印度来说将是一个可悲的局面。这就像一个未经训练的印度女人拿着刀和一个训练有素的中国武术高手一对一PK，我们都知道在这种情况下会有什么结果。

@NS-ll9ur

AMCA fund will be approved Either this September or in March of 2024....but I don't think it would be delayed further....

AMCA的资金将于今年9月或2024年3月获得批准，我认为不会再推迟了

@rocker10039

They have a very good number of jets in 5th gen (whether they are good or not, we must assume worst scenario), while we are struggling at mrfa, at some point we have to acknowledge that we are absolutely not ready for a 2 front war, which is a very likely scenario, at this point I'm scared of even a single front war against China

他们有非常多的五代战机，在某种程度上，我们必须承认我们绝对没有准备好打两线战争，而这是很有可能的情况，我们甚至害怕与中国单挑

@satyasanatan401

AMCA mk2 should be the backbone of IAF and it could replace su-30.

IAF needs at least 60+ squadron of 1000+ fighter jets to counter future mighty China & future Pakistan .So govt should include more pvt companies with HAL to achieve 50+ production rate per year.Thereby, we will have 20+ squadrons of AMCA in service by 2040.

AMCA MK2应该是印度空军的骨干，它可以取代苏-30。

为了对抗未来强大的中国和巴基斯坦，印度空军至少需要60多个中队，1000多架战斗机，所以政府应该让更多的私营公司加入，携手印度斯坦航空公司，以达到每年生产50多架战机的生产速度。这么一来，到2040年，我们将有20多个光辉中队服役。

@debdulalsenapati1391

AMCA Mk1 production should be done on a Wartime Mode with maxmum finding and all clearances and best teams working on it no matter what other countries are doing. If we can pull up our socks and pull of a miracle to have production starting in 2030-31 even then we would need To ramp up total units per year to even imagine to compete against Chinese production speed which is biggest in all of earth.

Until then we only have Himalay & Mahadev as Protection

AMCA Mk1的生产必须火速进行。如果我们能支棱起来，奇迹般地在2030-31年开始生产，那么我们需要每年增加总生产量，才敢想象与世界第一的中国生产速度竞争。在那之前，我们只有喜马拉雅和摩诃提婆作为屏障

@rhileeroy5730

I personally think we should try n collaborate with Japan on their 6th fighter program as it is in its advanced stages n can be approved for mass production by 2025 at the latest. Self-reliance will only be effective if we can get it done in a timely manner or else we will lack capabilities and that in turn will expose our vulnerabilities.

我个人认为，我们应该尝试与日本在第6代战机项目上合作，最迟在2025年可以获准大规模生产。自力更生只有在我们能够及时完成的情况下才会有效，否则我们会暴露出自己的弱点。

@rhileeroy5730

If J 20 has accquired the ability to super cruise after the engine upgrade it will be a grt boost to it's range so they can be deployed further n still pose a significant threat.

如果歼- 20在发动机升级后获得了超级巡航的能力，这将极大地提高它的航程，这样它们就可以进一步部署，对印度构成重大威胁。

@tathagatabasu7926

No doubt.air craft is very much necessary... But for the time being for our own protection we should increase our air defence system capability many fold.  For the time being it can be a low cost solution to protect our country... MRFA , Tejas mk2 and AMCA now became life line of ours... Soon we get it better it will be

毫无疑问，战机是非常必要的……但目前，为了做好防御，我们应该将防空系统能力提高许多倍。就目前而言，这可能是保护我们国家的低成本解决方案…MRFA、光辉mk2和AMCA现在成了我们的生命线，我们很快就会更强大

@pratapmehta3962

In an autocratic regime any amounts of resources can be allocated to increase production that's required. These aircraft are too reliant on electronics and sensors. This is their strength  and therefore their weakness

他们可以不惜动用一切资源提高产量。这些战机过于依赖电子设备和传感器，这是它们的长处，也是它们的弱点

@saurabhdang7307

They should have purchased Rafel for Air   force also because time is running very fast .

时间不等人，印度应该为空军购买阵风战机

@ayushharsh898

Chine is sole superpower of future for sure. No one stands a chance against them. It will be wise for us if an Asian coalition is created with Russia+China+India standing together against west.

中国无疑是未来唯一的超级大国。没人有机会对抗他们。如果俄罗斯+中国+印度联合起来对抗西方，这是明智的。

@skg901

Even 3 years down the line that altitude disadvantage will get nullified by sheer numbers at PLA.

3年后，我们擅长高海拔作战的优势也会被解放军的人数优势所抵消。

@aryan_proud_kafir

Quantity is a kind of Quality,  india should worry, me too

数量多也是一种优势，印度应该担心

@omkarraut9318

If the deal for 126 rafale jets would have been signed then we would be in a better position and getting out of the su57 project  was not a good decision

如果126架阵风战机的交易已经签署，那么我们将更有优势，退出苏57项目不是一个好决定

@coolkal7590

Hell of a worry We need to make the Su-57-75-70 triplet in India All 3 together will cost as much as a single $220 mn Rafale we purchased This obsession with pricey Rafales will leave us naked & unprepared AMCA will take till 2035 to enter series production (that too the underpowered Mk1)

我们需要在印度制造苏-57、苏75、苏70，三架加起来的成本相当于我们购买一架2.2亿美元的阵风战机。对昂贵阵风战机的执着会让我们耗尽资金，AMCA要到2035年才能进入批量生产(动力不足的Mk1也是如此)

@prudhvitej2992

Concluding mmrca 114 rafale so there will be 150 rafales in total and releasing funds for Amca.... 54 amca mk1 and 126 amca mk2 so total amca 180....

Yes we can sustain these many amca...by 2030 our defence budget will be 150+ BN USD SO even if China deploys 300 of these against us we will still have upper hand

JAI HIND

再采购114架阵风，这样总共会有150架阵风，并为AMCA提供资金，54架AMCA mk1和126架AMCA mk2，总共180架AMCA。

是的，我们可以维持这么多AMCA战机，到2030年，我们的国防预算将达到1500多亿美元，所以即使中国部署300架歼20来对付我们，我们仍然占上风，印度必胜！

@alfacentury804

When Air Forces can't support our own aircraft than process of purchasing new foreign aircraft will definitely take long time.

印度空军不大想要国产战机，购买新的外国飞机肯定要花很长时间。

@dennynepali4637

All 500 J-20 will be powered by new engine WS-15 supercuise 180kN tons. J-20 will be more superior to F-22 & F-35 after getting WS-15 supercuise engine & PL-21 400 kms range  air to air missile

所有500架歼-20将由新发动机WS-15提供动力。在获得WS-15发动机和PL-21 400公里射程空对空导弹后，歼-20将比F-22和F-35更优越

@2vipinsharma

I don't know when we Indians will stop chest beating even knowing that our adversary is more capable in terms of self reliance in Military equipment, Better equipment and R&D and Infrastructure... We should try to plug those gaps with collaboration and Indigenous development

即使知道我们的对手在军事装备研发和基础设施方面更有能力，也不知道我们印度人什么时候会停止拍胸脯，我们应该努力通过合作和本土发展来填补这些差距

@soham9238

Yes. Number matters ! That too, J 20 is a superior fighter jet.

是的，数量很重要，歼- 20也是一款优秀的战机。

@vishaldhekale

Subodh, we need better Air Defence System and convert Su 30's into Stealth killer by simply adding L band radars.

我们需要更好的防空系统，只需加L波段雷达就能把苏-30变成隐形杀手。

@drmap5194

Right now J20 fighters have 4 production lines active from 2022    so 48 fighters J20 china is manufacturing since 2022 and they have a total plan of at least 500 J20 only in next few yrs    already more then 200 in service in june 2023 it is confirmed

现在歼- 20战机有4条生产线，从2022年开始生产，所以中国从2022年开始生产歼- 20，他们计划在未来几年至少生产500架歼- 20，到2023年6月已经有200多架在服役，这是确认的

@sansans3301

With recent changes in engine from ws 10 to ws 15 will make this aircraft the best in the segment.

随着最近发动机从WS10到WS 15的升级，歼20这架飞机将成为同级别最好的飞机。

@parthbhatt2648

cant we build more production lines of Tejas mk1a and mk2 in India and south eastern nations. It generate more employment as well

我们不能在印度和东南部国家建立更多的光辉战机mk1a和mk2生产线吗？这也能创造更多的就业机会