No concrete breakthrough in India-China military talks on resolving Ladakh confrontation

中印军事会谈在解决拉达克对峙问题上没有取得具体突破

NEW DELHI: There was yet again no concrete breakthrough in resolving the festering troop face-offs at Depsang Plains and Demchok in eastern Ladakh despite the latest round of top-level military talks being held with China after a gap of almost four months.

新德里：在时隔近4个月后，尽管与中国举行了最新一轮高层军事会谈，但在解决拉达克东部德普桑平原和碟穆绰克地区日益紧张的军队对峙方面，仍然没有取得具体突破。

China did not agree to restore patrolling rights of Indian soldiers at the strategically-located Depsang Plains, towards the crucial Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO) and Karakoram Pass in the north, and the Charding Ninglung Nallah (CNN) track junction near Demchok, sources told TOI.

消息人士告诉《印度时报》，中国不同意恢复印度士兵在具有战略意义的德普桑平原的巡逻权，这些地区包括北部重要的Daulat Beg Oldie (DBO)和喀喇昆仑山口，以及德姆乔克附近的Charding Ninglung Nallah交汇处。

Though there was no immediate headway in the 19th round of corps commander-level dialogue at the Chushul-Moldo border meeting point on Sunday-Monday, sources said the talks were “better than the previous few rounds” with “some amount of agreement to move ahead” in strengthening confidence-building measures and not further increasing force-levels along the 3,488-km Line of Actual Control (LAC).

尽管周日在楚舒尔-莫尔多边境会晤点举行的第19轮部队军长级对话没有立即取得进展，但消息人士称，这次会谈“比前几轮好”，在加强建立信任措施方面“达成了一定程度的协议”，并没有进一步增加3488公里实控线沿线的兵力。

This was also reflected in the two sides issuing a joint statement on Tuesday, unlike the separate ones after the 18th round on April 23. India and China “agreed to resolve the remaining issues in an expeditious manner and maintain the momentum of dialogue and negotiations through military and diplomatic channels”, the joint statement said.

这一点也反映在会谈后双方于周四发布了联合声明，而4月23日举行第18轮会谈后，双方各自发布声明。联合声明称，印度和中国“同意迅速解决遗留问题，并通过军事和外交渠道保持对话和谈判的势头”。

“In the interim, the two sides agreed to maintain the peace and tranquillity on the ground in the border areas,” it said. The two sides had “a positive, constructive and in-depth discussion on the resolution of the remaining issues” along the LAC in the western sector. In line with “the guidance provided by the leadership, they exchanged views in an open and forward looking manner”, it added.

声明称：“在此期间，双方同意维持边境地区的和平与安宁。”双方就西段实控线沿线遗留问题的解决进行了积极、建设性和深入的讨论。声明补充说，在“领导层的指导下，他们以开放和前瞻性的方式交换了意见”。

India has been pressing for troop disengagement at Depsang and Demchok as the essential first step towards the eventual de-escalation and de-induction of the over 50,000 soldiers each forward deployed by the two armies with heavy weapon systems along the frontier in eastern Ladakh for over three years now.

印度一直敦促在德普桑和碟穆绰克的部队脱离接触，这是朝着最终缓和局势、以及遣散5万多名士兵迈出的重要的第一步，这些士兵分别由两国军队在拉达克东部边境部署，配备重型武器系统。

印度时报读者的评论：

User alishetti

Look at China. China is making India to talk on its bidding negotiating India's land. It is aggressor and enemy no.1 of India. China occupied and holding India to China's bidding, many fronts on protecting Pak terrorists, blocking UN permanent membership and opposing all the Indian interests. India has to be assertive and stop bidding to China's wishes.  Get stronger economically, strategically. Ban Chinese imports. Create anti China sentiment vigorously in India.

看看，中国正在迫使印度就领土问题进行谈判。中国是印度的头号敌人。中国让印度听命于他们，他们保护巴基斯坦，阻止印度成为联合国常任理事国，反对印度的所有利益。印度必须坚定，不要再迎合中国的意愿。在经济和战略上变得更强大。禁止从中国进口，在印度大力煽动反华情绪。

Jhn Knws

These talks are useless exercise and a cover for China to increase its infrastructure along the border. We should concentrate on infra building on our side to counter the Chinese.

这些会谈都是无用功，是中国增加边境基础设施的幌子。我们应该大力修建基础设施建设，对抗中国人。

Rahul Barnwal

Extremely deploraable state of affair at the Eastern ladakh border with China. 1st they take way our positions & the status quo ante of 2020 is lost. And now instead of reverting to old position they have upped their posture further by bullying our armed forces in the Skikkim-Arunachal Pradesh frontier. All this sadly due to inability of the incumbent to be decisive - who 1st to no sully image said no status quo change at border and didn't allow the armed forced to timely act forthright

拉达克东部与中国的边界状况非常可悲，首先他们夺走了我们的阵地，2020年之前的现状改变了。现在，他们没有回到原来的位置，而是进一步加强了姿态，在锡金-阿邦边境欺负我们的武装部队。可悲的是，这一切都是由于现任总理没有果断行事，先是说边境现状不会改变，然后又不允许武装部队及时采取行动

Sumit Sharma

Keep talking for another 100 years and cry and sit down if can't take your own land back.

再谈100年，如果拿不回自己的土地，就坐下来哭。

Vijayalakshmi Balasubramanian

Offence is the best form of defence.India must match the chinese build up.Dragon will never come to any compromise. They have infiltated all the western industries and companies widening their spy network.India should be one step ahead of the chinese everywhere.They are the most untrustworthy.

进攻是最好的防御。印度必须赶上中国的集结速度，他们是不会妥协的。他们已经渗透到所有西方工业和公司，扩大了他们的间谍网络。印度应该处处领先中国一步。他们是最不值得信任的。

Balachandran Nair

As expected, to expect to have good relationship with China and Pakistan is futile, all that we need to do is to have a working relationship so that the tension along the border is kept at minimum, I think that is what we are doing now

不出所料，指望与中国和巴基斯坦建立良好关系是徒劳的，我们所需要做的就是建立工作关系，将边境的紧张局势保持在最低限度，我认为这就是我们现在正在做的

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Dog's tail never straightens up....India by counting on peace with China is wasting time....formulate Asian security deterrence with Japan, South Korea, Indonesia, Vietnam , Philippines and Singapore....only way to answer China is to talk in their language...

狗尾巴从来伸不直，印度指望与中国缔结和平，是在浪费时间....与日本、韩国、印度尼西亚、越南、菲律宾和新加坡共同制定亚洲安全威慑。回应中国的唯一方法就是以其人之道还治其人之身

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As domestic problems mount for Chinese day by day because of economic problems , to divert the attention, it would trouble all the neighboring countries one way or another. Our country also must be ready to face all types of disturbance from

由于经济问题，中国面临的国内问题日益增加，为了转移注意力，他们会以这样或那样的方式找邻国麻烦。我们的国家也必须准备好面对他们策划的各种骚乱。

Patriot Indian

Modi government is doing Trading with China in (Yuan) Chinese currency. I guess this will help China to go stronger and come back stronger on LAC. Modi is selling all government owned company and Airports to Adani & Ambani. Today India is under debt/loan of 155 lakh crores under Modi government, but Media dont provide or debate on all critical information.. 2024 no more Modi

莫迪政府用人民币与中国进行贸易。我想这有助于中国在实控线上变得更强势。

莫迪把所有国企和机场卖给了阿达尼和安巴尼。

今天，在莫迪政府的领导下，印度背负着155万亿卢比的债务/贷款，但媒体没有提供或讨论关键信息。2024年莫迪下台吧！

Mohit Goyal

China will not retreat and will not give away strategic advantage it has got. Only way out is to impose restrictions on Chinese imports & hurt its economy hard.

中国不会退缩，不会放弃已有的战略优势。唯一的出路是限制中国进口，重创中国经济。

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Capturing of POK is the only solution to counter China. Our power hungry and greedy politicians made our life miserable not thinking about future conflicts with neighbours. It was a good chance for the country to take back POK but every time we compromised. Now the next generation including us are burdened to spend hard earnings on defence of borders rather than improving lives of people.

占领巴控克什米尔是对抗中国的唯一办法。那些对权力饥渴和贪婪的政客让我们的生活变得悲惨，没有考虑未来与邻国的冲突。这是一个夺回巴控克什米尔的好机会，但每次我们都妥协了。现在，包括我们在内的下一代背负着把辛苦挣来的钱花在保卫边境上的负担，而不是改善人民的生活上。

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indian army knew PLA's salami slice tactics, then why indian army didn't thought about such issues before? could have understood if it had happened for first time in 1962..but there should be no excuse if it happened in 2020..why buffer zone created on indian patrolling side only and previous patrolling zone were allowed to be taken over by PLA? why similar salami slicing not done by india to counter china and forced them to come to mutual agreement? it's obvious that PLA will take away many mor ... Read More

印度军队知道解放军的切香肠战术，为什么印度军队之前没有考虑过这些问题？

如果是1962年第一次遇到，我能理解。

但如果发生在2020年，就没有借口了。

为什么只在印度巡逻一侧设立缓冲区，而之前的巡逻区域被解放军接管？

为什么印度不采取类似的切香肠战术来对抗中国，迫使他们达成共识？

很明显，解放军会夺走更多土地

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Indian armed forces are disciplined to the extent to take approval from higher ups for any action. Higher up means PMO means PM.

印度武装部队纪律严明，任何行动都要得到上级的批准。上级指的是印度总理和总理办公室。

Yogesh Jain

56 Inchi in front of Pakistan and Opposition and 26 inchi in front of China, do you think China will Honor Requests...!!! Even after Galwan Valley clash Imports from China has increased...!!!

在巴基斯坦和反对派面前，莫迪的胸膛是56英寸，在中国面前缩小到26英寸，你认为中国会尊重我们的请求吗？

即使在加勒万河谷冲突之后，我们从中国的进口也增加了

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Go on the border and stand for a few nights to show your 56" chest. Ty negative comments is easy.

写负面评论很容易，去边境站几个晚上，展示你56英寸的胸膛吧。

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Joint statement itself is a significant breakthrough, though it is more of a feel factor, not concrete breakthrough. In the LAC standoff, China has lost its credibility as a power who can be trusted to adhere to an agreement. This loss of credibility is reflected in its economic downslide; and this downturn is likely to continue for the duration of standoff. The bit of lowering temperature that a joint statement brings, is perhaps seen as a tactical concession to cool it a bit by China to avoid ... Read More

联合声明本身是一个重大突破，尽管它更多的是一个感觉因素，而不是具体的突破。

在实控线对峙中，中国已经失去了作为一个可信任大国遵守协议的信誉。

这种信誉的丧失反映在其经济下滑上，而这种低迷很可能在对峙期间持续下去。

联合声明带来的一点点降温，可能被视为中国的一种战术让步

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Chinese have always made a fool of us for the last 10 years since BJP is in power. Not just they have grabbed land but claimed certain parts of their country as theirs. Now did we do anything similar?

自从人民党执政以来的10年里，中国人一直在忽悠我们。他们不仅攫取了我们的土地，还声称我们国家的某些领土是他们的。我们做过类似的事情吗?

Manu

In 1962, BJP was not in power..

1962年不是人民党执政。

Yogesh Jain

But our #FakeuramChaupatiya Announced in the Parliamament that no land was lost to China during his time and during Galwang Valley clash. He lied to the whole nation, Why he shouldn't be prosecuted by the Privilege committee..!!! On top he keeps blaming CONgress for gifting land to China and the 70 years rant...

我们的总理在议会上宣布，加勒万河谷冲突期间，没有土地被中国夺走。他欺骗了整个国家，为什么他没有被特权委员会起诉？最重要的是，他一直指责国大党把土地送给中国，过去70年一直这样抱怨…

Anil Kumar

Bhakts think Modi has nothing to do with it, he is busy with endless Jumlas on other issues.

印度教徒认为莫迪与此无关，他忙于其他问题上没完没了的夸口。

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When there are many people in India on Chinese payroll, how can any dispute be resolved.,The Government of India first needs to act against Chinese supporters and book them under treason.

印度有很多人拿中国的工资，怎么可能解决争议。印度政府首先应该对中国支持者采取行动，以叛国罪起诉他们。

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