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美国已经落后华为手机至少5年,华为的卫星电话通话已经是6G的标准功能了,美国能在5年内赶上华为吗

The US has been at least 5 year's behind Huawei smartphone (such as Apple iPhone), especially the satellite phones call, which is the standard function of 6G. Do you think will the US be able to catch up with Huawei smart phones in 5 years?

美国已经落后华为智能手机至少5年,华为的卫星电话通话已经是6G的标准功能了。你认为美国能在5年内赶上华为的智能手机吗?

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WB Lai

US is more than 5 years behind China in terms of on-shoring manufacturing of cellphones, and having a domestic supply chain to facilitate cell phone manufacturing within the US.

Even critical rare earth metal refining the US is behind China in terms of quality of yield and quantity of yield.

China has 2 chip fabs from TMSC in the mainland, in addition to their own chip fab SMIC.

The US doesn't even have 1 TSMC chip fab yet. There's at least a 1 year delay in get that operational.

在手机的本土制造和国内供应链方面,美国落后中国5年以上。

就连至关重要的稀土金属冶炼,美国在生产质量和产量方面也落后于中国。

中国大陆除了自己的晶圆厂中芯国际外,还有两家TMSC的晶圆厂。

美国甚至连一家晶圆厂都没有。最少还要再等上一年才能投入使用。

 

 

 

Thomas Lew

THET ARE PAYING JAPAN 2.5 BILLION TO RESEARCH 6 G’S, HUAWEI SAYS 5.5 G IS SUFFICIENT, RESEARCH IN OTHER AREAS INSTEAD

他们向日本支付了25亿美元来研究6G,华为说5.5G就够用了,又开始投入其他领域的研究

 

 

 

John Parr

The US has been at least 5 year's behind Huawei smartphone (such as Apple iPhone), especially the satellite phones call, which is the standard function of 6G. Do you think will the US be able to catch up with Huawei smart phones in 5 years?

We won't even try.

美国已经落后华为智能手机至少5年,华为的卫星电话通话已经是6G的标准功能了。你认为美国能在5年内赶上华为的智能手机吗?

我们连试都不敢试呢。

 

 

 

Alvin Lee

If US stop using its money in military expansion and use the fund in technology and hel the Americans to get out of poverty trending, then the answer is “yes”.

If US still keep increasing its military funds year after year, the answer is “No, US will neve be able to catch up with Huawei”

如果美国不再把钱用在军事扩张上,如果美国把钱用在技术上,帮助美国人摆脱贫困趋势,那么答案是肯定的。

可如果美国继续年复一年地提高军费,答案就会只能是:“不,美国永远都赶不上华为”。

 

 

 

Joseph Loh

I don’t think iPhone is behind Huawei, The iPhone 14 series can connect to satellites to send a text message to emergency services when a call can't be placed. You can also share your location via satellite in the Find My app. However, you can't use any iPhone to make calls like a dedicated satellite phone. Apple is using its satellite connectivity to power one other feature that could come in handy even when you're not in an emergency. With the Find My app on an iPhone 14, you'll be able to share your location via satellite, so your friends and family know where you are even when you're far off the grid. SpaceX & Globalstar Partnership Enhances iPhone Emergency SOS Via Satellite Feature SpaceX collaborates with Apple's satellite partner, Globalstar, to launch a new satellite fleet aimed at improving the iPhone 14's Emergency SOS via Satellite functionality. Huawei has breakthroughs USA’s sanctions, and launched a phone with China’s self developed technology especially in chips, especially without those chips sanctioned by USA, this is not the first time China has done so, the most distinguished achievement are shown in the space program, but I don’t think they have claimed that their Huawei mate 60 pro is better than iPhone or any other smartphone, in fact the western media and tech players have been doing free marketing for Huawei,

我不认为iPhone落后于华为,iPhone 14系列就可以连接卫星,在无法拨打电话时向紧急服务部门发送短信。

你也可以在“查找我的设备”APP中通过卫星分享你的位置。不过你没办法像使用专用卫星电话那样使用任意一部iPhone打电话。

苹果正在利用其卫星连接来支持另一项功能,让你在没有紧急情况的时候也能派上用场。

有了iPhone 14上的“查找我的设备”APP,你可以通过卫星分享你的位置,这样即使你远离网络,你的朋友和家人也可以知道你在哪里。

SpaceX与苹果的卫星合作伙伴Globalstar合作,推出了一个新的卫星群,旨在通过卫星改善iPhone 14的紧急SOS功能。

华为突破了美国的制裁,推出了一款采用中国自主开发技术的手机,尤其采用了中国自主研发的芯片,华为没有使用遭到美国制裁的芯片。

这不是中国第一次取得如此进步了,最杰出的成就是在太空计划中,但我不认为他们自夸华为mate 60 pro会超越iPhone或任何其他智能手机,

事实上,西方媒体和科技公司一直在为华为做免费营销。

 

 

 

Pher Kimhuat

US / iPhone can do whatever they want but Huawei is not going to stop at 6G and continue to advance with latest research & development against healthy and positive competition despite those dirty political sanctions imposed by US-led West.

Huawei / China are even more determined to advance in science and technology beyond 6G when US commerce secretary Gina Raimondo was so rude and arrogant to warn China that “US’s patience is running thin” instead of being humble and sincere to negotiate with her Chinese counterpart during her recent visit to Beiing.

美国/ iPhone想做什么只管随意,虽然美国领导的西方实施了肮脏的政治制裁,但华为不会止步于6G,华为会继续在健康和积极的竞争中推进研发。

美国商务部长吉娜·雷蒙多在访问北京期间,不但没有谦卑坦率地与中国谈判,反而粗鲁和傲慢地警告中国“美国的耐心正在耗尽”,华为/中国就更加坚定了要在科学和技术上超越6G。

 

 

 

Felix Su

There are not 6G phones on the market. China and Huawei is testing them and China even launched a satellite to test 6G tech.

But no one is selling a 6G phone.

The nitty gritty is still being discussed. But it looks like China is going to be one of the standard setters as China’s testing of 6G is way ahead of everyone else.

市场上还没有6G手机。中国和华为还在测试,中国甚至发射了一颗卫星来测试6G技术。

但还没有6G手机在售。

6G的细节仍在讨论中,但中国将成为标准制定者之一,因为中国的6G测试已经遥遥领先于其他国家了。

 

 

 

Buddhahead

Yes. As CPU processors go, Apple has a small lead, but Huawei is closing in. Next, the reason Apple cannot talk via satellite is Starlink is basically a digital internet network. Apple ha no transceiver to talk to Starlink. The problem I see with the US is we have not developed 5G as rapidly as China, so our 5G applications lags. China is also introducing 5.5G and has their version of 6G in development. The US lags. The US has no equivalent of Huawei. If only our politicians had more engineers and scientists than lawyers, we could be more intelligent in what we do in technology. So far, we have bungled our efforts to destroy China’s tech rise where we should be competing. In the semiconductor sector, we have shot ourselves in the foot so to speak, causing more damage to our semiconductor companies than to the Chinese.

是的。就CPU处理器而言,苹果略微领先,但华为正在奋起直追。其次,苹果无法连接卫星通话的原因是星链基本上是一个数字互联网网络。

苹果没有收发器与星链通信。我认为美国目前的问题在于美国没有像中国那样快速推广5G,所以我们的5G应用滞后了。

中国正在推出5.5G,并研发自己的6G版本。美国已经落后了。美国没有可以对标华为的企业。

如果我们的政治家中多一些工程师和科学家,我们在科技领域会取得更大成就。

到目前为止,我们破坏中国科技崛起的努力已经失败,美国本应在这个领域和中国一较高下的。

在半导体行业,我们可以说是搬起石头砸自己的脚,我们给自己半导体公司造成的伤害比给中国公司造成的伤害更大。

 

 

 

John Parr

The US has been at least 5 year's behind Huawei smartphone (such as Apple iPhone), especially the satellite phones call, which is the standard function of 6G. Do you think will the US be able to catch up with Huawei smart phones in 5 years?

We won't even try.

美国已经落后华为智能手机(如苹果iPhone)至少5年了,尤其是卫星电话通话,这是6G的标准功能。你认为美国能在5年内赶上华为的智能手机市场吗?

我们甚至都不会尝试。

 

 

 

Rod Brylawski

The standard function of 6G is not satellite phone calls. 6G is the sixth generation mobile system standard currently under development for wireless communications technologies supporting cellular data networks. It is the planned successor to 5G and will likely be significantly faster. Like its predecessors, 6G networks will probably be broadband cellular networks, in which the service area is divided into small geographical areas called cells. That has literally NOTHING to do with Satellite communications.

So no, I don’t think Huawei has surpassed the US at all. 5G is still rolling out around the world. It will be years before we see 6G service around the world. What would be the point of buying a phone which has a way to connect to networks not yet available? Don’t answer, that’s rhetorical.

6G的标准功能不是卫星电话。6G是目前正在研发的第六代移动系统标准,是一种基于支持蜂窝数据网络的无线通信技术。它是5G的更高版本,可能速度会大幅提升。6G网络可能是宽带蜂窝网络,与卫星通信毫无关系。

所以,我不认为华为已经超越了美国。5G仍在全球范围内使用。我们还需要几年的时间才能在全球范围内看到6G服务。现在购买一部只能连接尚未成形的网络的手机有什么意义呢?无需回答,那是我的反问。

 

 

 

Nexus

That would be virtually impossible. Huawei is way ahead.

Of course, the U.S. is said to be ahead of China in chip manufacturing and artificial intelligence. However, China is catching up very rapidly. (See Huawei’s smartphone as an example.)

However, the U.S. doesn’t know how to catch up. The only thing it knows how to do is play war games and levy sanctions against countries it doesn’t like. At the same time, Team USA’s only pony in this race is Apple’s iPhone. China has several cell phone manufacturers that are riding high. Moreover, the iPhone is reportedly being pushed out of the Chinese market, I believe.

美国不可能赶上中国,华为早已遥遥领先。

当然,都说美国在芯片制造和人工智能方面领先于中国。但中国一直奋起直追(以华为的智能手机为例)。

可惜美国不知道该如何迎头赶上。美国只懂得玩战争游戏,对它不喜欢的国家实施制裁。与此同时,美国在这场比赛中唯一的选手就是苹果的iPhone,但中国有好几家很不错的手机制造商。此外,据报道,iPhone正在被挤出中国市场,我相信这个说法。

So, China has the better phone, along with a bigger market. It will soon have better chips. It has 5G, and an operating system that allows intelligent people like me to ditch Google. What’s not to like?

I love Apple, but it is way overpriced, and it may have a few other problems that are begng to surface. The Chinese, of course, are famous for their ability to undercut competitors’ prices. Or, to put it another way, they’re famous for not screwing consumers.

所以,中国能早出更好的手机,也拥有更大的市场,很快就能推出更好的芯片。中国有5G,中国的操作系统让我这种聪明人自愿放弃谷歌。

我也喜欢苹果,但定价过高了,而且苹果也有一些问题开始浮出水面了。当然,中国人非常善于压低竞争对手的价格,或者,换句话说,他们不会欺骗消费者。

Right now, the biggest question regards mass production. Can Huawei make enough phones to satisfy a global market? There are claims that it is working on some fab plants that will enable it to do so. Of course, we all know the Chinese can do just about anything, right? I predict Huawei’s smartphone will be #1 in global sales by 2025.

Apple had better find a business model that allows them to sell their laptops for a more affordable price, because its iPhone business is going to crash.

目前,最大的问题是量产。华为能生产足够多的手机来满足全球市场吗?有消息称,华为正在建设一批工厂,以期能够实现这一目标。我预测到2025年,华为的智能手机将成为全球销量第一的手机。

苹果最好找到一种商业模式,推出更实惠的笔记本电脑价格,iPhone业务是肯定会崩溃的。

 

 

 

Richard Bouchard

6G is not a satellite-based system.

Huawei's products are almost all based on western chips and western operating systems.

6G系统并不基于卫星。

华为的产品几乎都还是基于西方的芯片和操作系统。

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