How is India CHALLENGING the Arab Countries in the Global Fuel War? : Geopolitical Case Study

印度如何在全球燃料战争中挑战阿拉伯国家？地缘政治案例研究

On 9th of September 2023 India led the formation of something called the Biofuels alliance on the side of the G20 summit. And now India, Brazil and the US are the founding members of this alliance with a total of 19 countries and 12 international organisations have so far agreed to join the alliance, including both G20 members and non-member countries.

2023年9月9日，印度在G20峰会上牵头成立了生物燃料联盟。目前，印度、巴西和美国是该联盟的创始成员，迄今已有19个国家和12个国际组织同意加入该联盟，其中包括G20成员国和非成员国。

Also, just before the announcement of the alliance On 29th of August 2023, Nitin Gadkari revealed something that could bring yet another revolution in India. And this move could be so big that if it is successful. It could turn our farmers into Millionaires, it could reduce the cost of petrol in the country to just 15Rs a litre most importantly, this move can help control inflation in India!!! This move is none other than the introduction of flex-fuel vehicles in India!!! And on 29th August this revolution took its first step!!

此外，就在2023年8月29日宣布结盟之前，尼廷·加德卡里透露了这可能会给印度带来另一场革命。这一举措的幅度可能会非常大，如果成功的话，可以让我们的农民变成百万富翁，可以把国家的汽油成本降低到每升15卢比，最重要的是，此举有助于控制印度的通货膨胀！别无其他，正是在印度引入弹性燃料汽车！8月29日，这场革命迈出了第一步!!

以下是印度网友的评论：

omnilight_xl6324

Hope we can achieve our flex fuel goals in the nearest future

希望我们能在不久的将来实现这个目标，引入弹性燃料汽车！

bharatavarsha10k

We are going in the right direction as of now...

Regaining our lost pride and reviving our great culture.

Kee ourselves in the position we we're a 1000 years ago!

A lot needed to be done as well, we will do that as well..

Praying for all the good to happen to this great nation "Bharatavarsha"

Jai Hind Vande Mataram

到目前为止，我们正朝着正确的方向前进。

重拾我们失去的骄傲，复兴我们伟大的文化。

让我们保持一千年前的状态!

还有很多事情需要做，我们也会这样做。

祈祷所有的好事发生在这个伟大的国家“巴拉特”身上。

印度必胜，致敬印度！

amoghaudupa7450

Us getting the corridor deal with Saudi Arabia, UAE, Europe, USA and this leading Italy to back out of China's BRI is just too good!!!

This corridor deal will serve as a rival to China's BRI and it's literally a masterstroke....

Calling BJP supporters andhbhakts is easy, but whatever the faults of the BJP maybe, but we as a nation are develo and are emerging as a global leader should be credited to the present Govt!!!

我们与沙特阿拉伯、阿联酋、欧洲、美国达成了走廊协议，这导致意大利退出了中国的“一带一路”倡议，这太好了!

这条走廊协议将成为中国“一带一路”的竞争对手，这确实是一个神来之笔....

不管人民党有什么错，我们作为一个正在发展的国家，正在崛起为全球领导者，这应该归功于现任政府!

tivo3720

Previous govt vs today's govt. Kudos to today's govt.

前政府和现任政府形成鲜明对比，向现任政府致敬！

user-jn7bq8wh1e

My next question: What is the update on hydrogen fuel?!

India has been betting on it for quite sometime now

我有一个问题：有关于氢燃料的最新进展么? 印度投入已经有一段时间了

patriot9981

Referring last speech of Gadkariji.

Sugarcane consumes lot of drinking water and reduce water table

Bamboo cultivation is exactly opposite and this too gives Ethanol. Even waste water is good for bamboo.

So bamboo cultivation is solution for Bharat and not sugarcane.

参考加德卡里的最后一次演讲：

甘蔗消耗大量的饮用水，降低了地下水位

种竹子正好相反，还能产生乙醇，甚至废水对竹子的生长也有好处。

因此，种植竹子是解决巴拉特问题的办法，而不是种甘蔗。

alistonviegas7860

Currently 10% of the fuel we put in our vehicles have ethanol already blended in it and yet the price drop wasn't seen :)

目前，我们的汽车燃料中有10%已经混合了乙醇，但价格却没有下降。

rupeshsah7000

There is a simple solution to the biggest biofuel problem here is to shift the production of ethanol to states where water is in excess. For example - Red rice also need huge consumption of water, and Assam is the biggest producer of red rice in India because the state has so much water that every year it faces flooding.

对于最大的生物燃料问题，有一个简单的解决办法，那就是把乙醇的生产转移到水资源过剩的邦。例如，红米也需要大量的水，而阿萨姆邦是印度最大的红米生产邦，因为该邦拥有丰富的水资源，每年都面临洪水。

nitish4506

I have a bad feeling that even if oil marketing companies sell petrol/diesel at 15 Rupees, the government will simply increase the excise duty levied by 85 and the final price will be 100 Rupees only. For example, despite importing crude oil at a discount from Russia, no benefit to the consumer was passed by government

我有一种不好的预感，即使石油营销公司以15卢比的价格出售汽油/柴油，政府也只需将消费税提高85卢比，最终价格仍会是100卢比。例如，尽管从俄罗斯以折扣价进口原油，但政府没有给消费者带来任何好处

chiragkamani369

If we are able to reduce our dependence on crude oil by increasing the ethanol content in fuel, will the demand for electric vehicles be hindered by the reduced fuel cost?

如果我们能够通过增加燃料中的乙醇含量来减少对原油的依赖，那么对电动汽车的需求是否会因为燃料成本的降低而受阻?

pavansatya1632

In andhar Pradesh 80% of Godavari water was sent to sea ,and there is a surver  if the government built the polavaram dam im Andhra, it can produce 2x of normal production,

在安得拉邦，80%的戈达瓦里河水被排入大海，有一项调查显示，如果政府在安得拉邦修建polavaram大坝，作物产量可以是正常产量的两倍。

MaheshwaranVelusamy

Amazing... kudos to bjp government

太棒了，向人民党政府致敬

ashvinla

Can we have a policy to simply replace the engines of the exsting cars (or modify exsting engines to be flex fuel compatible)? Then we could have a large addressable market. Otherwise the market is limited to people buying new cars.

我们能否制定一项政策，简单点，替换现有汽车的发动机(或修改现有发动机，使其与弹性燃料兼容)？这样我们就有了一个巨大的潜在市场。否则，市场将局限于购买新车的人。

akshitrathore7436

Only current government have guts for taking this type of decision

只有现任政府有勇气做出这样的决定

vcrkm5222

I'm based in Europe where we can find E85 fuel at a lot of petrol stations.  Ford is a big producer of E85 compatible vehicles and inexpensive conversion kits exst to enable other vehicles to be able to take in E85.  Yet there does not seem to be much uptake.  I see more a push for electric vehicles and increasing adoption.  But even here I'm not too sure on the recyclability of end-of-life batteries, nor on the safe disposal of these technologies.  On the flip side, ethanol as a fuel could create food-crisis by increasing costs of staples such as corn, sugar etc.

我在欧洲工作，在这里我们可以在很多加油站加到E85汽油。福特是E85兼容车辆的大生产商，并且有廉价的改装套件，使其他车辆能够采用E85。然而，似乎没有多少人接受。我看到更多的是对电动汽车的推动，越来越多人选择。但即使在这里，我也不太确定报废电池的可回收性，也不确定这些技术的安全处置。另一方面，乙醇作为燃料可能会增加玉米、糖等主食的价格，从而引发粮食危机。

thecomment9489

Brazil and USA can dedicate lots of hectares to grow sugarcane as both have vast availability of lands and water as well. India can share engineering and technology of biofuels and flex engines.

巴西和美国可以投入大量的土地种植甘蔗，因为两国都有大量的土地和水资源。印度可以分享生物燃料和弹性发动机的技术。

subhajitkumarchakraborty8255

Hello @Thinkschool, cultivation of Rice & Sugarcane takes 1/3 of the country's total water resources. Where we can see major water crisis in summer across the country. This is going to be not a game changer but a disaster in making

水稻和甘蔗的种植消耗了印度总水资源的三分之一。在夏季，我们可以看到全国各地出现严重的水危机。这不会改变游戏规则，而是一场正在酝酿中的灾难。

ed688

Great study, but i think to much dependancy on ethanol using such a water intensive crop such as sugarcane can prove to be devastating, instead we  should try to focus more on Biogas

不错的研究，但我认为过度依赖乙醇，使用像甘蔗这样的水密集型作物可能会被证明是毁灭性的，相反，我们应该尝试多研究沼气

DevKulkarni

Did you find out why Indonesia not part of the flex-fuel alliance? considering it is one of the biggest ethanol producers?

为什么印尼没有加入弹性燃料联盟？鉴于它是最大的乙醇生产商之一

gauravsaha8639

The point you made about the water crisis which is clearly a prominent one but I believe the government should use water purification methods to be able to use the same for production of said bio fuels as we are not going to reuse it for consumption, or reuse waste water to steam-line in the process that will not affect consumption. As I also understand like sugar water also has byproducts so does water when it comes to households…

关于水危机的观点显然是一个突出的问题，但我认为政府应该净化海水，以便能够将其用于生产生物燃料，因为我们不打算将其用于食用，或者在不影响食用的过程中将废水重新用于蒸汽管道。据我所知，糖水也有副产品，家庭用水也是如此。

sarthakshukla5450

Wondering how this would play out along with the growing EV markets.

想知道随着电动汽车市场的增长，这将如何开展下去？

harishparvathaneni8648

I have a doubt and hopefully some one could clarify. What are the impacts to produce plants which are going to be used for biofuel as they consume unreasonable amounts of geound water which has impacts of making soil a dessert. Are we develoing any new varieties to go around this issue ?

我有疑问，希望有人能澄清。种植用于生物燃料的植物会产生什么影响，因为它们会消耗大量的地下水，这会使土壤变成荒漠。我们有没有开发新品种来解决这个问题?

adityaparihar3170

We have already developed 2G ethanol technology at a commercial scale. This is based on agri waste i.e. rice husk which is otherwise burnt in fields and causes pollution. IOCL has set up 2G ethanol refinery at Panipat. Various feedstock combinations other than sugarcane are currently under development.

我们开发了2G乙醇技术，已经有了商业规模。利用农业废物，即稻壳，否则它们在田地里燃烧，会造成污染。国际石油公司在帕尼帕特建立了2G乙醇精炼厂。目前正在开发除甘蔗以外的各种原料组合。

banjara_

Watch the millets episode after this and you will realize there are a lot of farmer deaths and drought situations coming due to the dryness of the water table especially in the north western region of India. I request the government to consider only corn for this activity.

由于地下水位干涸，特别是在印度西北部地区，造成干活，很多农民死亡。我请求政府只考虑使用玉米作为这个项目的原料。

juggler665

More sugarcane production for ethenol means more scarcity of water. We already suffering from water deficit. Farmers will stop growing grains will make us depend on others for grain.

多种甘蔗生产乙醇意味着更严重的水资源短缺。我们已经饱受缺水之苦。农民将停止种植粮食，将使我们依赖别人的粮食。

APU290

This will not make farmers rich.

It will make large land owners and sugarcane processing factory owners rich.

这不会让农民致富，反而将使大地主和甘蔗加工厂老板致富。

arjunnarula2978

Problem with flex fuel is that ethanol is sourced largely from sugarcane, which is a very water consuming crop, which further puts strain on the already poor water table.

A solution for this also must be found out, else it will have a disastrous result as well in the long run.

弹性燃料的问题在于，乙醇主要来自甘蔗，而甘蔗是一种非常耗水的作物，这进一步加剧了本已贫瘠的地下水位的紧张。

这也必须找到解决办法，否则从长远来看也会造成灾难性的后果。

anuraggaikwad6484

If this policy works flex fuel could potentially also revolutionize energy generation and consumption not just limited to cars but also electricity generators which use diesel or petrol could flex fuel thereby decreasing costs for infrastructure where electricity is not immediately available or too expensive.

如果这一政策奏效，弹性燃料可能还可能彻底改变能源生产和消费，不仅限于汽车，而且使用柴油或汽油的发电机也可以灵活使用燃料，从而降低电力不能立即获得或过于昂贵的地方的基础设施成本。

ankitvarekar6220

From one side we are pushing for Millet production because of lack of water and from other side because of Ethanol it will increase in Sugarcane production.

一方面，由于缺水，我们正在推动小米的种植，另一方面，由于对乙醇的需求，将增加甘蔗的产量。

fallonmassey4714

Smart move, I just wonder if it will work!

We have the ability to do this in America, but for whatever reason, it never took off!

But good luck, we'll keep watching.

明智之举，我只是想知道是否能成功! 我们美国有能力做到这一点，但出于某种原因，从未成功过! 祝你们好运，我们会继续关注的。