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阿根廷决定不加入金砖组织,对金砖成员国来说是好消息吗

Is Argentina's decision not to join BRICS good news for the countries within the organization?  If so, why?

阿根廷决定不加入金砖组织,对金砖成员国来说是好消息吗?若是,为什么?

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Everything China

If the BRICS had extended an invitation to join, then they must have had plans for a win-win situation and it will not be optimal news. However, if they did it out of goodwill for Argentina figuring short term pain for eventual long term gain after stabilization of the economy, e.g. accessible to grain exports, then the news is neutral. Argentina will not drag the BRICS down if it had joined, so there is no good news. The BRICS will have got a clearer picture going forward.

如果金砖组织发出过邀请,那么它们一定有实现双赢的计划,这个结果就不是最理想的。但如果他们是出于对阿根廷的善意而发出邀请,认为在经济稳定后,短期阵痛最终能带来长期收益,例如粮食出口,那么这个结果就是中性的。就算阿根廷加入金砖组织,也不可能拖累金砖四国。金砖组织的前景将更加明朗。

 

 

 

Shaemes Karlburgher

China needs new recruits. Competition for first lapdog has Putin in the lead, but Venezuela's Maduro is gearing up for some aggressive war himself, just like Hamas tried with Israel. I wonder how long Brazil and India will stay.

中国需要新成员。在争夺头号走狗的竞争中,普京处于领先地位,但委内瑞拉的马杜罗也在为侵略战争做准备,就像哈马斯对以色列所做的那样。我很好奇巴西和印度还能待多久。

 

 

 

PC Yu

Almost right after election, Argentina official has reviewed the BRICS deal & said … BRICS does not hurt Argentina.

Quit BRICS is just a slogan to attract votes. To lead electors to think Argentina’s economic problem eg 100+ inflation rate, is due to BRICS. Trump did that in his election campaign too.

几乎就在选举刚一结束之时,阿根廷官员就审查过金砖组织协议,表示金砖组织不会伤害阿根廷。

退出金砖四国只是一个拉票的口号噱头。让选民认为阿根廷的经济问题(比如100+的通胀率)是金砖组织造成的。特朗普在他的竞选活动中也这么干过。

Back to your question.

Whether Argentina decides to join BRICS or not, it is no harm done to BRICS.

My personal comment is that: since Argentina chooses to put priority on politics instead of economy, Argentina is not stable. I wont mind if Argentina withdraws from BRICS. My opinion only.

说回你的问题。

无论阿根廷是否决定加入金砖组织,都不会对金砖组织造成伤害。

我个人的看法是:因为阿根廷优先考虑的是政治而非经济,所以阿根廷的经济不太稳定。我不介意阿根廷退出金砖组织。这只是我个人的观点。

 

 

 

Os Jose

I see no advantages! All BRIC countries that want to join are develo countries, including China. If i were a develo country I’d like to be mentored by a Developed country so I can educate my citizens to learn how to get there. A good example is China, look at them before 1969 and after when they requested to be mentored by the USA. The proof is there, they developed so much so quickly, that they weaned out the mentor and now wish to compete against them.

我看不出有什么好处!所有希望加入金砖组织的国家都是发展中国家,包括中国也是。如果我是一个发展中国家,我也希望获得发达国家的指导,这样我就可以带领我的公民一起努力。中国就是一个很好的例子,他们在1969年前后就请求美国给予指导。如今他们发展得如此迅猛,甚至抛弃了导师,希望能跟导师一较高下。

Can they compete based on the international law of economy?

Argentina hopes to tighten her belt, get rid of all corrupt bureaucrats, and invest in her people. Makes good freinds in South/Central America and stops acting like an elitist nation..

他们能根据国际经济法则进行竞争吗?

阿根廷希望奋起直追,除掉所有腐败官僚,为人民谋福利。在南美洲/中美洲结交好友,不再自恃清高…

 

 

 

Mike Chiew

BRICS just like EU, this organisation has indoctrinated certain criteria and laws to govern and manage those qualified member countries. However, Argentina economy isn't flaring well and the newly elected president is more confident to lean toward the G7 group then BRICS thinking G7 may help her to ease her deteriorated economy.

If Argentina needs to have some kind of infrastructure development BRICS or Asia Development Bank could assist her but the newly elect promptly rejected BRICS. However, if Argentina wants China BR assistance I think China may oblige to her request. But BRICS is more careful if Argentine isn't interested I think it will save them a lot of internal deliberation.

金砖就跟欧盟一样,已经强制推行了一些标准和法律来管理成员国。但阿根廷经济表现不佳,新当选的总统更倾向于七国集团。

如果阿根廷需要发展基础设施,金砖组织或亚洲开发银行可以伸出援手,但新当选的阿根廷总统迅速拒绝了金砖组织。如果阿根廷需要中国的援助,我觉得中国可能会满足她的要求。但如果阿根廷不感兴趣,金砖组织会更加谨慎,我认为这可以节省大量的内部审议工作。

 

 

 

Robert Quek

According to news report, Brazil pushed hard for Argentina’s admission into BRICS. I would imagine Brazil would be upset.

Argentina is a middling country, with population of over 45 million, the second largest in Latin America after Brazil. From the viewpoint of agricultural and mineral resources, it does not add any real weight to BRICS.

I would imagine that save for Brazil, the other BRICS countries, including the 5 new ones that will join come January 2024, will be somewhat indifferent.

据新闻报道,巴西大力推动阿根廷加入金砖组织。我可以想象巴西对这个结果会很沮丧。

阿根廷是一个中等规模的国家,人口超过4500万,是拉丁美洲仅次于巴西的第二大国家。从农业和矿产资源的角度来看,并不会给金砖组织增添什么真正的实力。

我可以想象,除了巴西之外,其他金砖成员国,包括将于2024年1月加入的5个新国家,大概也都不以为意。

It is a free country, and has the right to decide what best serves its interest. It may be a “forever” decision. Many countries are seeking to join BRICS. If it ever reapplies, and even if BRICS were forgiving, it will be down to the back of the queue, and overtaken by every new applicant.

I am not sure how it will affect its trade relationships with Brazil and China, which are its largest and second largest trade partners. The currency swap arrangement it has with PBOC may be affected.

阿根廷是一个自由的国家,有权决定怎么做最符合自己的利益。这可能是一个“永远”的决定。许多国家都想要加入金砖组织。如果阿根廷重新提出申请,即便金砖组织原谅了它,它也只能排在等候队列末端,排在所有新的申请国家之后。

我不知道这对阿根廷跟巴西和中国这两个第一大和第二大贸易伙伴的贸易关系会有什么影响。阿根廷与中国人民银行的货币互换安排可能会受到影响。

News reports have it that it wants to dollarize the economy. I am not sure if the US or the Fed is excited by it, and whether it is able to handle it, amid the dedollarisation process in progress, and the continuing need for US Treasury to access the bond market for funds to meet its fiscal deficit.

新闻报道称,阿根廷想要实现经济美元化。我不确定美国或美联储是否对此感兴趣,也不确定在全球去美元化进程中、美国财政部继续通过债券市场筹集资金以弥补财政赤字的情况下,阿根廷是否有能力应对。

 

 

 

Peter Kaye

Yes, it’s good news for BRICS, but bad news for Argentina, aligning themselves with the US is suicidal, they are swap a world market with just a single country that will dictate to them what they can and cannot do, guess Bribes really do work. Wonder how much it cost to buy him off.

why? Well, it’s good because you don’t want someone in your midst that favours the opposition. India is bad enough. You don’t want two of them.

是的,这对金砖组织来说是好消息,但对阿根廷来说是坏消息,与美国结盟是自绝后路,他们这是用一整个国际市场交换一个国家,这个国家能决定他们什么能做、什么不能做,我猜大约是美国的贿赂攻势起了作用。我很好奇美国花了多少钱收买阿根廷总统。

至于原因?那是因为你不想在自己的阵营中有人支持反对派。印度已经够糟糕了。你肯定不会再来一个的。

 

 

 

Robin Murray

No addition of Argentina as a trade partner would be a win for BRICS. Argentina has always been more US focused odds are the peso gets pegged to the US Dollar soon vastly improving the economy and decreasing hyperinflation currently at 94% per year.

阿根廷不加入金砖组织,是金砖组织的胜利。阿根廷一直更重视美国,如果比索与美元挂钩,阿根廷经济很快就会大大改善,压低目前每年高达94%的恶性通胀。

 

 

 

Knowledge Occean

How might Argentina's economic and financial crisis impact its chances of joining BRICS?

阿根廷的经济和金融危机会如何影响其加入金砖组织的机会?

Argentina's economic and financial crisis could potentially have both positive and negative implications for its chances of joining BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa). Here are some ways in which the crisis could impact Argentina's potential membership:

阿根廷的经济和金融危机可能会对其加入金砖组织(巴西、俄罗斯、印度、中国和南非)的机会产生积极和消极的影响。以下是金融危机可能影响阿根廷潜在成员国身份的几个方面:

**Positive Impacts:**

1. **Alignment with Emerging Economies**: Argentina's economic challenges might create an alignment with other emerging economies, including some BRICS countries that have faced similar economic issues in the past.

2. **Desire for Diversification**: Argentina might seek new economic partnerships and alliances as a way to diversify its economic relationships and reduce dependency on traditional trading partners.

积极影响

1. 与新兴经济体接轨:阿根廷面临的经济挑战可能会与其他新兴经济体接轨,包括一些曾经面临过类似经济问题的金砖成员国。

2. 对多样化的渴望:阿根廷可以寻找新的经济伙伴关系和联盟,实现经济关系多样化,减少对传统贸易伙伴的依赖。

**Negative Impacts:**

1. **Economic Stability**: Joining BRICS requires a certain level of economic stability and growth potential. Argentina's economic crisis could raise concerns about its ability to contribute to the group's economic objectives.

2. **Coordination Challenges**: BRICS countries collaborate on economic and political issues. Argentina's crisis might complicate its ability to coordinate policies and contribute meaningfully to the group.

负面影响

1. 经济稳定:加入金砖组织需要一定程度的经济稳定和增长潜力。阿根廷的经济危机可能会引发人们对其能否为金砖组织的经济目标做出贡献的担忧。

2. 协调挑战:金砖组织在经济和政治问题上进行合作。阿根廷的经济危机可能会加大协调政策和为组织做贡献的难度。

3. **Economic Reforms**: BRICS countries often emphasize economic reforms and policies that support growth and stability. Argentina's crisis might prompt the need for significant reforms before considering membership.

4. **Geopolitical Dynamics**: The geopolitical considerations of exsting BRICS members might influence their willingness to include a country experiencing an economic crisis.

5. **Global Reputation**: Argentina's economic challenges could impact its global reputation and influence perceptions among potential BRICS partners.

3. **经济改革**:金砖组织强调经济改革和助力经济增长和稳定的政策。阿根廷的经济危机可能会促使该国在加入组织前进行重大改革。

4. **地缘政治态势**:现有金砖组织成员国对地缘政治的考量可能会影响他们接纳一个正在经历经济危机的国家的意愿。

5. **全球声誉**:阿根廷的经济困境可能会影响其全球声誉,并影响潜在金砖组织成员国的看法。

6. **Trade and Economic Integration**: Joining BRICS would involve economic integration and alignment with the group's trade and economic policies. Argentina's crisis might complicate this integration process.

7. **Membership Criteria**: BRICS membership criteria likely include economic size, influence, and alignment with the group's principles. Argentina's economic crisis might not meet these criteria.

6. **贸易和经济一体化**:加入金砖组织将涉及经济一体化,并与集团的贸易和经济政策保持一致。阿根廷的危机可能会使一体化进程更为复杂。

7. **成员标准**:金砖组织成员标准可能包括经济规模、影响力和与集团原则的一致性。阿根廷的经济危机可能不符合这些标准。

It's important to note that while Argentina's economic situation could impact its potential membership in BRICS, the decision to admit new members would involve a complex assessment of economic, geopolitical, and strategic factors. Additionally, the situation could change over time based on Argentina's efforts to address its economic challenges and improve its overall stability and growth prospects.

需要注意的是,虽然阿根廷的经济状况可能会影响其申请资格,但接纳新成员的决定将涉及对经济、地缘政治和战略因素的复杂评估。此外,随着时间的推移,根据阿根廷应对其经济困局和改善整体稳定及增长前景的努力,情况可能会发生变化。

 

 

 

Will Rice

What are the chances of Argentina joining BRICS?

Good. Though I suspect Mexco will be admitted first. Mexco having an economy well over double Argentina combined with being North American is a BRICS 'shoo-in’ .Argentina's real GDP growth would seem to make its acceptance a likelihood — however Brazil is likely to slow that process.

An evolving likelihood is qualification by joining the BRICS investment arm as an investor-client. Egypt being a prime example.

阿根廷加入金砖组织的可能性有多大?

机会挺大,不过我猜墨西哥会先被接纳。墨西哥的经济规模是阿根廷的两倍多,而且是北美国家,这是备受金砖组织青睐的国家。虽然阿根廷的实际GDP增长使其有被接受的可能,但巴西可能会拖慢这一进程。

还有一种可能性是通过以投资者客户的身份加入金砖组织投资机构来获得资格。埃及就是一个最好的例子。

 

 

 

Robin Murray

What is Brazil's opinion about Argentina joining the BRICS?

Any country joining especially close to Brazil would be good for trade. However it will not happen for many reasons. Mainly the new conservative president is a rabid anti-co unist. He intends to peg the Peso to the US Dollar erasing hyperinflation. Also US can call Argentina’s massive debt to the IMF at any time so there is no choice really.

巴西对阿根廷加入金砖组织有何看法?

任何与巴西关系密切的国家加入金砖组织都有利于贸易。但鉴于多种原因,阿根廷不会加入金砖组织。这位新上任的保守派总统是个狂热的反共分子。他打算将比索与美元挂钩,消除恶性通货膨胀。此外,美国可以在任何时候向国际货币基金组织偿还阿根廷的巨额债务,所以真的没有选择。

 

 

 

Josh Papakostas

Is it wise for Argentina to decline joining BRICS?

Argentina has not been acting wise for decades. It is also too unimportant for BRICS.

阿根廷拒绝加入金砖组织是否是明智之举?

几十年来,阿根廷的政策一直不太明智。阿根廷对金砖组织来说,实在是无足轻重。

 

 

 

Meve Barr

Is it wise for Argentina to decline joining BRICS?

With this new zionist psychopath Milei new president, it will decline. He will for sur follow washington imperialism instructions, ahh and the jewish lobby too

阿根廷拒绝加入金砖组织是否是明智之举?

只要这个刚上台的犹太复国主义神经病新总统米雷在位,阿根廷就注定走向衰败。米雷肯定会听从华盛顿帝国主义的指示,嗯对,还有犹太游说团的指示。

 

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