印度和土耳其，谁更强大，这两个国家有什么相似之处

Which country is more powerful, India or Turkey? What are the similarities between the two countries?

印度和土耳其，谁更强大？这两个国家有什么相似之处？

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Ravi Chandran

Obviously turkey is very powerful both historically and in the present geopolitical situation.

Most of the Muslim invaders who won in this country were of Turkish origin.

Ghazni Mohammed was a Turk

Gutpudin Iybac was a Turkish slave. He established slave dynasty.

Khaljis were Turks

Thuklaks were Turks

Moguls were Turkish Mongols

All the Bahmini,Deccan , Madurai , Bengal and Gujarat sultans were Turks.

显然，在历史上和当前的地缘政治形势下，土耳其都非常强大。

在这个国家获胜的大多数MSL入侵者都是土耳其人。

加兹尼·穆罕默德是土耳其人

古特普丁·黎巴克是一名土耳其奴隶。他建立了奴隶王朝。

卡尔吉人是土耳其人

图拉克人是土耳其人

莫卧儿是突厥蒙古人

巴赫米尼、德干、马杜赖、孟加拉和古吉拉特邦的苏丹都是土耳其人。

Turkey had the longest and largest modern empire of Ottoman’s upto WW 2 . It ended because they choose the wrong side which was headed by the Nazi leader Adolf Hitler . They survived ww 1 because they fought against the axs power .They were the first Islamic empire to use gunpowder and Canons

Turkey was a modern nation unlike India which is a conservative country even now. Turkey absorbed the scientific values much earlier than India did. Turkey was one of the very few countries which shunned the barbaric practices of Islam. It is an Ideal secular Islamic state far ahead of Egypt and Saudi.

直到第二次世界大战，土耳其拥有奥斯曼帝国最长、最大的现代帝国。战争的结束是因为他们选择了由纳粹领导人阿道夫·希特勒领导的错误一方。

土耳其是一个现代化的国家，不像印度，现在依然是一个保守的国家。土耳其比印度更早地吸收了科学观。土耳其是少数几个躲过了YSL教野蛮行径的国家之一。它是一个理想的世俗YSL国家，远远领先于埃及和沙特。

In the modern day world also Turkey serves as a conduit between Europe and Asia.It still controls huge sea trading as pointed in other answers by holding the strategic straits.

Regarding similarities both are secular states. Both Turks and Indians had large and great empires like ottomans, moguls, khaljis, Thuklak and Mouryas, Guptas, Marathas, Rashtrakutas, cholas.

在现代世界，土耳其依然是欧洲和亚洲之间的通道。它仍然控制着巨大的海上贸易，其他答案也指出了，土耳其控制着战略海峡。

就相似之处而言，两国都是世俗国家。土耳其人和印度人都有庞大而伟大的帝国，比如奥斯曼帝国、君主、哈利吉、图拉克和穆里亚、笈多、马拉地人、拉什特拉库塔人、朱罗王朝。

Kanthaswamy Balasubramaniam

You see this map?

This small place between the two Turkeys?

If Turkey tomorrow decides to place a 30% Tariff on all Oil and Gas Cargo going to India from Russia or worse simply decides to embargo all Russian Vessels travelling through these straits to India with energy

Your Petrol will rise to ₹133/- a liter in less than 60 days or even as high as ₹150/- a liter

看到这张地图了吗？

两个土耳其之间的那个小地方？

如果土耳其明天决定对从俄罗斯到印度的所有石油和天然气货物征收30%的关税，或者更糟一些，决定禁航所有通过这些海峡向印度运送能源的俄罗斯船只，那么

汽油价格将上升到₹133/升，不出60天，甚至会涨到₹150/升。

That's because these straits known as Bosporus Straits allows all Black Sea Trade to move through it and travel across the world

Turkey controls these straits entirely

They bridge Asia and Europe and have a vital strategic significance to the West & East both

Hence why Erdogan can say what he wants about Israel and NOBODY DARE CENSURE HIM

Turkey is too vital to Russia & US& Europe & China combined

这是因为博斯普鲁斯海峡可以让黑海的所有贸易通过此海峡，抵达全世界

而土耳其完全控制着这些海峡

它们是亚洲和欧洲的桥梁，对西方和东方都具有重要的战略意义

这就是为什么埃尔多安敢对以色列想说啥说啥，但没人敢谴责他的原因。

土耳其对俄罗斯、美国、欧洲和中国来说太重要了

Bharat sadly is useless to most of the world apart from being a place where one can sell goods to 400 million people

We don't even control the Palk Strait fully

Our trade significance is making auto parts and cheap assembled electronics

We have no strategic significance to anyone today beyond being a patsy in the US China conflict

可悲的是，印度除了是一个可以向4亿人出售商品的地方之外，对世界上大多数国家来说都毫无用处。

我们甚至都没能完全控制保克海峡。

我们的贸易意义在于制造汽车零部件和廉价的组装电子产品。

今天，除了成为中美冲突的替罪羊，我们对任何国家而言都没有战略意义。

Sure we have Nukes but both our closest neighbors have 3 times more Nukes

Sure we have Air craft and Air Craft Carriers but our hostile neighbors combined have five and a half times more aircraft and one of them outproduces us 9:1 today

We have near zero influence in Asia including even Nepal and Sri Lanka and Bhutan due to China

Turkey doesn't have that problem. It is an Alpha in its sphere of influence with Armenia or Greece or Syria or Azerbaijan

当然，我们有核武器，但离我们最近的两个邻国的核武器数量都达到我们的3倍之多。

当然，我们有飞机和航空母舰，但我们的敌对邻国拥有的飞机数量总和达到我们的5.5倍之多，其中一国的飞机产量是我们的9倍。

鉴于中国的存在，我们在亚洲，甚至尼泊尔、斯里兰卡和不丹的影响力几乎为零。

土耳其就没有这个问题。在土耳其与亚美尼亚、希腊、叙利亚或阿塞拜疆的势力范围内，它就是王。

Turkey exported $ 4.5 Billion worth of Defens Equipment while we the fifth largest economy exported $ 1.91 Billion worth of it

Less than half of Turkey

Many Nations place orders from Turkey for Bayrakhtars (At least did before the conflict) while our orders are for Tata Trucks mainly and our PM has to shake hands with everyone raw to sell the slightest advanced equipment which we make only with western collaboration

So Turkey is better than India by any standards

土耳其出口了价值45亿美元的国防设备，而我们作为第五大经济体，只出口了价值19.1亿美元的国防设备。

甚至连土耳其的一半都到不了。

许多国家从土耳其订购Bayrakhtars无人机(至少在冲突前是这样)，而我们的订单主要是塔塔卡车，我们的总理得舔着脸巴巴地跟所有人握手才能卖出稍稍先进一点的装备，这些装备还都是我们跟西方合作生产的。

因此，不论以任何标准来衡量，土耳其都要比印度好。

Actually this is not the answer

The Answer is both these nations are well spaced apart and cannot be compared one to one due to a host of differences

I was responding to Balaji Vishwanathans answer where he selectively slanted and made India look superior including the bizzare claim that GDP per capita doesn't matter to a Nations power

I simply illustrated how easy it is to slant and claim India sucks and Turkey is more powerful

实际上这不是答案。

答案是，这两个国家相隔甚远，因为存在许多差异，所以无法一一比较。

上文只是在回应Balaji Vishwanathan的回答，他偏袒印度，非说印度高人一等，他搞出了奇奇怪怪的说法，说什么人均GDP对一个国家的实力而言并不重要。

我只是简单地说明了，想要说印度烂，土耳其强是有多么容易。

This is like asking who is better Hulk or Superman?

The true connoisseur would say Different Universes, Different rules

这就好比在问绿巨人和超人谁更厉害？

真正的行家会说不同的宇宙，有不同的规则。

I must say that this will be a very pro-Turkish answer even for the Turks. But that's how I look at it. I have no claim to objectivity.

India is crowded, it has a big economy in connection with this. Again, in connection with this, there is a large stem-educated population. However, it has not been able to spread education and technology (even cleaning) to the base. Politically, there is a very serious danger of civil war in the future. I do not consider the planned new road project for the further growth of Ekomomisi to be geopolitically viable.

This sentence of mine will anger Indians, but I think that rising Indian nationalism and islamophobia will trigger a major civil war in the future and this will destroy India's economy and stability. The well-trained engineers and doctors of India will meet the shortage of Decently trained intermediate staff of Europe.

我必须说，就算对土耳其人来说，也是一个对土耳其非常有利的答案。我就是这么看的。我没办法保持客观。

印度人口众多，与人口相关的经济规模很大，因此印度拥有大量受过科学教育的人口。但印度未能将教育和技术(甚至清洁)落实到基层。在政治上，印度未来存在发生内战的严重风险。我认为，为进一步发展经济而规划的新道路项目在地缘政治上是不可行的。

我这句话会激怒印度人，但我认为印度民族主义和恐YSL症的抬头将在未来引发一场大规模的内战，这会破坏印度的经济和稳定。印度训练有素的工程师和医生将满足欧洲中级工作人员的短缺。

Turkey's situation is not perfect, but in many ways it is in an advantageous position from India. Geographically, it is right in the middle of Europe, Asia and the middle East. With the Ukrainian war, almost all of Europe's power lines pass through Turkey. Turkey cares about this as a defense strategy. A serious investment was made in the transportation network, Internet, technology and educational infrastructure. (All government, health and banking services in Turkey can be solved with a mobile phone application. 85% of smart boards are available in schools and classrooms. Tablets were distributed to all students to support the education.) serious emphasis was placed on the production of domestic military technology. Products exported to the world such as Bayraktar UAV, anka UAV are increasing.

土耳其的情况也并不完美，但在许多方面，它还是比印度占据着更有利的地位。从地理位置上看，土耳其位于欧洲、亚洲和中东的中间。由于乌克兰战争，欧洲几乎所有的输电线都要经过土耳其。土耳其把这作为一种防御战略。在交通网络、互联网、技术和教育基础设施方面进行了大量投资。(土耳其的所有政府、医疗和银行服务都可以通过手机应用程序解决。85%学校和教室中都有智能平板。土耳其向所有学生分发平板电脑来辅助教学。)土耳其非常重视国内军事技术的生产。Bayraktar无人机、anka无人机等出口数量不断增加。

The biggest problem is the economy. When oil and natural gas imports are deducted, the Turkish economy gives a surplus. But 10% of GDP is spent on oil and natural gas every year. The ratio of borrowing to GDP is not bad. (it was about 35% last I remember) so we can borrow when we need to grow.

There are discussions on press freedom vs. Nothing comparable to India.

最大的问题在于经济。扣除石油和天然气进口后，土耳其经济是盈余的。但是土耳其每年有10%的GDP花费在石油和天然气上，借款占GDP的比例还不错。(我记得上次看大约是35%)这样我们就可以在需要发展的时候进行借贷。

外界对新闻自由度存在一些议论，无法与印度相比。

Finally, Turkey has a serious impact on the Turkic world of 300 million and the Islamic world of 2 billion. He is respected, though sometimes with admiration, sometimes with envy, sometimes with hatred.

I wish the best for India. But I don't think it has an advantage outside of the crowded population.

Finally, I think that the ideal successful state is Norway. Good economy, high social rights, problem-free population, strong natural resources. Unfortunately, we are a long way from becoming Norway.

最后，土耳其对拥有3亿人口的突厥世界和20亿人口的YSL世界有着重大的影响力。土耳其受人尊敬，尽管有时是钦佩，有时是嫉妒，有时也有憎恨。

我希望印度一切顺利。但我认为印度在人口之外不存在什么优势。

最后，我个人认为最成功的国家是挪威。挪威经济发达，社会权利多，也没有人口问题，自然资源丰富。但很可惜，我们距离挪威还有很大的差距。

SapınaKadarKemalistTürk

India is bigger, more populous, has an English influenced education system ( an huge advantage) and is a nuclear power.

Economically and militarily India is more powerful at present.

印度面积更大，人口更多，教育系统深受英语影响(这是一个巨大的优势)，而且是一个核大国。

在经济和军事方面，印度现在比土耳其更强大。

Hafiz Muhammad Waqar

It is challenging to definitively determine which country is more powerful between India and Turkey as power can be measured and interpreted in different ways. Both countries hold significant geopolitical importance and possess various strengths in different spheres.

In terms of sheer size and population, India has the advantage, with a population of over 1.3 billion people compared to Turkey's population of roughly 83 million. India is the world's largest de ocracy and has a rapidly growing economy, making it one of the fastest-growing major economies globally. It also has a formidable military capability and is considered a nuclear power.

想要明确印度和土耳其谁更强大，很难，因为实力强弱可以用不同的方式来衡量和解释。两国都具有重要的地缘政治地位，在不同领域各具优势。

就规模和人口而言，印度具有优势，人口超过13亿，而土耳其人口仅为8300万。印度是世界上最大的皿煮国家，经济增长迅速，是全球增长最快的主要经济体之一。印度还拥有强大的军事能力，是一个核大国。

Turkey, on the other hand, sits at a crossroads between Europe and Asia, providing strategic significance. It boasts a geostrategic location, acting as a bridge between different regions and cultures. Turkey has a well-developed economy, particularly in industries like construction, manufacturing, and tourism. It also possesses a powerful military and is a NATO member, enhancing its defense capabilities.

When examining the similarities between India and Turkey, a few notable points can be highlighted. Both countries have a rich history and have been influenced by various civilizations over the centuries. They have geographic diversity, with India's vast landscapes and Turkey's unique position spanning two continents. Additionally, both nations have cultural diversity and multiethnic societies.

另一方面，土耳其位于欧洲和亚洲的十字路口，具有重要的战略意义。土耳其拥有地缘战略位置，是不同地区和文化之间的桥梁。土耳其经济发达，建筑、制造业和旅游业等行业尤其发达。土耳其拥有强大的军事力量，还是北约成员国，这两点都增强了土耳其的国防能力。

对于印度和土耳其的相似之处，有几点值得注意。两国都有着悠久的历史，几个世纪以来受到各种文明的影响。两国都具有地理多样性，印度幅员辽阔，土耳其则拥有横跨两大洲的独特位置。此外，两国都拥有多样性的文化和多民族的社会。

Moreover, India and Turkey have faced common challenges such as terrorism, domestic political issues, and regional conflicts. They have also cooperated in areas like trade, tourism, and cultural exchanges, fostering bilateral relations.

However, it is important to note that each country has its own unique strengths, challenges, and priorities.

此外，印度和土耳其都面临着恐怖主义、国内政治问题和地区冲突等共同挑战。双方还在贸易、旅游、文化交流等领域开展合作，促进了双边关系的发展。

但我必须说，每个国家都有自己独特的优势、挑战和优先发展目标。