Is Confucius actually a Korean or a Chinese?

孔子到底是韩国人还是中国人？

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요한

As a Korean, I have no shame to say that Confucius is Chinese and that other claims are very “questionable”. In the Korean text book, it says that “공자는 중국 노나라의 수도인 곡부 근처에 있는 추라는 작은 마을에서 태어났다”. It says that Confucius was born in china. 99% of Koreans would agree with me that Confucius is Chinese. Some people argue that Confucius is Korean because he is Dong yi, but the evidence is not sufficient. Even though we assume he’s actually Dong yi, he probably isn’t Korean. Dong yi is a term used in Chinese history to refer to ethnic groups living in the east. Dong yi was not a specific ethnic group, but a disparaging term used by the Chinese to refer to various ethnic groups that exsted in the east as 'eastern barbarians'. Dong yi not only refers the Koreans, but other ethnic groups in China. If he is Dong yi, it’s likely that he was one of an ethnic group in eastern China. The chances of Confucius being Korean is very low.

作为一名韩国人，我要说孔子就是中国人，这没有什么好丢脸的，其他的说法都很“可疑”。韩国的教科书也说“孔子出生在中国鲁国首都—曲阜附近的一个叫陬的小村庄”。99%的韩国人都认同我的观点，认为孔子是中国人。

有人辩称孔子是韩国人，因为他是东夷人，但证据并不充分。就算我们假设他就是东夷人，也可能并不是韩国人。东夷是中国历史上指代生活在东部地区的少数族群的一个名称，并非特指某个特定的民族，东夷是中国人对生活在东部的各种民族的蔑称，称为“东方蛮族”。

东夷不仅指代朝鲜族，也指代了中国的其他民族。如果孔子是东夷人，那他很可能属于中国东部的某个民族。孔子是韩国人的可能性微乎其微。

비반

I dunno who the hell asked this question, but PLEASE STOP ASKING SUCH QUESTIONS. If you’re curious, then just search it up. Confucius is Chinese and other claims are bullshit. If you’re Chinese, I despise you for creating negative perception of Korea and if you’re Korean, pls stop this ultranationalistic shit (unless you were actually curious) . Literally, no one in Korea likes it when you post this kind of stuff. Even in the Korean text book, it says that “공자는 중국 노나라의 수도인 곡부 근처에 있는 추라는 작은 마을에서 태어났다”. 99.9999% of Koreans would agree with me that Confucius is Chinese.

我不知道到底是谁在问这种问题，但是请别再问了。如果你真的好奇，就去网上搜索一下。孔子是中国人，其他说法都是扯淡。

如果你是中国人，我很鄙夷你对韩国的负面看法。如果你是韩国人，请别再瞎搞这种极端民族主义的事(除非你真的很好奇)。

实际上，韩国没有人会喜欢看你发的这些。韩国的教科书上说“孔子出生在中国鲁国首都—曲阜附近的一个叫陬的小村庄”。

99.9999%的韩国人都赞同我的观点，孔子就是中国人。

Peter Wybenga

Confucius is actually a Canadian. He was reborn for the 13th time as a professional hockey player. Also co-founder of Tim Horton’s.

Please learn to use Google. You can learn an aweful lot by not asking dumb questions and wasting other people’s time.

孔子其实是加拿大人才对。这是他第13次转世，以职业冰球运动员的身份重生了。他还是蒂姆·霍顿的联合创始人。

请学会使用上网搜索。不要问出这种愚蠢的问题，不要浪费别人的时间，你可以通过搜索学到很多东西。

Lee Jangkyu

I want to know who the questioner is and why he or she made such stupid statement. Simple internet search on google will tell you who's Confucius and where he's from.

I read ‘Analects논어論語’ translated and annotated in Korean when I was only 13. In that book also explains ‘Confucius공자孔子’ is ancient Chinese ‘Lu’ nation and his birth place 'Kongfu공부孔府' still exst in Shandong province in China.

No one thinks Confucius is Korean. Confucius is definately Chinese and he is one of the greatest philosophers in the world at the same level with Socrates, Buddah and Jesus.

我想知道提问者究竟是谁，为什么他或她会说出如此愚蠢的话。网上搜一下，就能知道孔子是谁，是哪儿人了。

我在13岁的时候就读了韩语翻译和注释的《论语》。那本书还解释了“孔子”是中国古代的“鲁国”人，他的出生地“孔府”至今还存在于中国的山东省。

没有人觉得孔子是韩国人。孔子绝对是中国人，他是与苏格拉底、佛陀和耶稣齐名的全世界最伟大的哲学家之一。

There are some irrational Koreans who claims a lot of unproven, officially not recognized facts on Korea or China. Maybe. But, in my personal experience as a history enthusiast watching many Youtube clips and many history books published in Korea and some translated books, I’ve NEVER SEEN OR HEARD ANY CLAIM BY KOREANS CLAIMING CONFUCIUS IS KOREAN.

What I’ve seen more is Chinese bringing some very minor, unpopular, unproven, irrational, extreme contents created by irrational Koreans on Youtube and use them as the proof of a statement like ‘All Koreans believe Confucius is Korean’.

有一些不理智的韩国人总喜欢宣扬很多未经证实的、未得到官方承认的事实。但是，根据我个人的经验，作为一个历史爱好者，我看过很多Youtube视频，读过很多韩国出版的历史书籍和翻译书籍，我从来没有看到或听到过任何韩国人说孔子是韩国人。

相反，我看到更多的是中国人把一些非常小众的、不受欢迎的、未经证实的、非理性的、极端的内容上传到Youtube上，并用它们来证明“所有韩国人都相信孔子是韩国人”的说法。

For me, this looks like proliferating propaganda by bringing irrational claims as their base of claim. Why they do that?

Many people are aware of the fact that Chinese are spreading these kind of historical distortion and denial of official history of other nations around the world to make the foundation of their invasion and stealing other culture justified. Koreans are not worrying about the claims themselves.

对我来说，他们似乎通过把非理性的主张作为基础来扩散宣传。他们为什么要这么做？

许多人都发现这样一个事实：中国人正在世界各地传播这种扭曲的历史和否认其他国家官方历史的内容，让他们入侵和窃取其他文化的行为变得更合理。韩国人自己都对这些说法毫不在意。

Koreans are worrying about 1.7 billion Chinese becoming our enemy by irrational and education full of falsehood.

This kind of propaganda I’ve learned from history was only from that of Nazi Hitler. This kind of effort creates hatred on certain group of people. So, I’m really worried now that China is becoming like Hitler’s Nazi.

Hence I want to point out that rational, educated 99.99% of Koreans who has common sense would NOT believe or claim that Confucius is Korean. Confucius is CHINESE.

韩国人担心17亿中国人会因为非理性和虚假的教育而成为我们的敌人。

我从历史中只看到过纳粹希特勒进行过这种宣传。这种努力造成了针对某些群体的仇恨。所以，我现在真的很担心中国会变成纳粹

我想说，理智的、受过教育的99.99%有常识的韩国人都不会相信或宣扬孔子是韩国人。孔子就是中国人。

No rational Korean wants to be seen as Chinese and even get angry if any person ask if you are a Chinese. No one in Korea wants Confucius to be Korean. Rational Korean people have enough education to learn that Confucius is ancient Chinese, a great mind way different from current Chinese.

没有哪个理智的韩国人希望被当做中国人，如果被问到是不是中国人，他们甚至还会生气。在韩国没有人希望孔子是韩国人。理性的韩国人受过足够的教育，他们知道孔子是古代中国人，一个不同于现在中国人的伟大思想家。

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I'm a Korean. Recently, interest in China has increased, and the comments of Chinese netizens or actual Chinese are often mentioned. This question is also the most known for Chinese question among Korean netizens. Because no one in Korean thinks Confucius is a Korean.

I looked up the source of the question and found a delusional comment from a Korean professor. However, 99.999% of Koreans do not even know that such a professor exsts and believe that such an idea is a delusion. Because Koreans do not give the name [子] to any person. Therefore, it is a fact that even elementary school students in Korea know that the following persons are Chinese. -孟子, 荀子, 韓非子, 墨子 ...

我是韩国人。最近，人们对中国的兴趣日益增加，中国网民或中国人的评论经常被提及。这也是韩国网民中最熟悉的中国问题。因为在韩国，并没有人认为孔子是韩国人。

我查了一下这个问题的来源，发现了一位韩国教授的妄想症评论。但是，99.999%的韩国人压根不认识这个教授，认为这种想法就是妄想。因为韩国人绝不会起带“子”字的名字。因此，在韩国，连小学生都知道以下几个人都是中国人—孟子, 荀子, 韓非子, 墨子 ...

Therefore, the fact that the claim of Korean origins that even Koreans do not know is spreading in China means that someone malicious is spreading slanderous material about Korea. How do you feel when you find out that someone is spreading malicious rumors about you? Koreans feel the same way.

因此，连韩国人自己都没听说过的“韩国血统论”在中国大肆传播，意味着有人恶意散布对韩国的诽谤。当你发现有人在散布关于你的恶意谣言时，你会是什么感觉？韩国人也跟你一样。

DP

If you ask a Chinese person, he/she will say he is Chinese.

If you ask a Korean person, he/she will say he is Chinese.

One ultranationalist Korean said that Confucius was of Korean descent and while it received no public attention in South Korea, it BLEW UP in China.

I have lived in/near Korean-American communities all my life, lived in South Korea for two years, currently working for a Korean company, have Korean family, friends, and coworkers.

None, absolutely none, of them believe that Confucius is Korean.

如果你问中国人，他/她会说孔子是中国人。

如果你问韩国人，他/她会说孔子是中国人。

一名极端民族主义的韩国人宣称孔子是韩国人的后裔，虽然这件事在韩国并没有引发公众的注意，但在中国却引起了轰动。

我这辈子一直住在韩裔美国人社区/附近，也在韩国生活过两年，目前在一家韩国公司工作，我身边不乏韩国家人、朋友和同事。

没有哪个韩国人，绝对没有哪个韩国人相信孔子是韩国人。

Max Than

Neither.

Confucius was a Roman; just look at his name. Actually, that wasn’t his real name; it was his epithet. Since he has a short term memory and can’t remember much, he was called Confucius by the other philosophers.

So Chinese and Korean netizens should stop fighting each other because Confucius is neither Chinese or Korea.

The reason why Confucianism is popular in East Asian society is because the Roman Emperor deported him through the Silk Road because he was mad that Confucius forgot his wife’s birthday.

孔子不是韩国人，也不是中国人。

孔子其实是罗马人；看看他的名字吧。其实孔子并不是他的真名，那只是绰号。由于他总忘事，记性差，所以被其他哲学家称为“孔子”。

所以中国和韩国网民别再互相攻击了，因为孔子既不是中国人也不是韩国人。

儒学之所以在东亚国家盛行，是因为孔子忘记了皇后的生日，惹得罗马皇帝大怒，把孔子由丝绸之路驱逐出境。

Zee Wee

The cause of this old question is Japan.

The Japanese right wing has been active for a long time to lower the image of Korea, and there is a "theory of the origin of all things in Joseon" in Japan.

The world is full of stories that say that everything originated in Korea.

Of course, this is a number of fabrications and distortions made by the Japanese to detest Koreans.

这个老问题的根源是日本。

长期以来，日本右翼势力一直在积极贬低韩国的形象，日本还出现了“朝鲜本源论”。

世界上到处都能听闻“世间一切都起源于韩国”的故事。

当然，这些都是日本人为了给韩国人拉仇恨而故意捏造和歪曲的事实。

The hypothesis that Confucius was Korean has spread from here to China and Taiwan, and many Japanese have spread it to China and Taiwan, so they believe in the hoax that Confucius is Korean.

However, Korea learns that Confucius is Chinese, and few Koreans think that Confucius is Korean.

孔子是韩国人的猜测从这里传到了中国大陆和台湾地区，所以中国人都相信了孔子是韩国人的骗局。

但是，韩国人只知道孔子是中国人，很少有人认为孔子是韩国人。

And Korea only recently found out about this.

For a long time, Koreans were unaware of this fact because they had no interest in Taiwan.

Because China always lies, Koreans didn't really care what they said.

But as a Korean, I will say it with certainty.

Confucius is Chinese

Foolish Chinese don't play with Japan's alienation.

韩国最近才知道这件事。

在很长一段时间里，韩国人都没听说过，因为他们对台湾地区没有兴趣。

因为中国惯于撒谎，所以韩国人并不在乎他们说了什么。

但作为一个韩国人，我可以肯定地说。

孔子是中国人

愚蠢的中国人别中了日本人的离间计啊。

Juri Geschütz

Well confucius's ethnicity is definitely chinese. Ignore those extremists who say that confucius is korean. Most Koreans know that confucius is chinese.

To be accurate, the nationality wouldn't necessarily be ‘Chinese' since china was never truly unified at the time. The ethnicity would definitely be chinese though.

孔子肯定是中国人。别搭理那些说孔子是韩国人的极端分子。大多数韩国人都知道孔子是中国人。

准确地说，孔子的国籍不一定是“中国人”，因为当时的中国从未真正统一过。不过民族肯定是中国人。

Stephen Lee

Confucius is not Chinese nor Korean. But Confucius is racially closed to Korean as he was geographically from the northern area where non-Han race had been populated back then…

孔子既不是中国人，也不是韩国人。但是孔子在民族上倒是跟韩国人有点接近，因为从地理上来说，孔子来自当时非汉人居住的北方地区…

itong Zou

He's Chinese. He was born in an area that is now modern day Shandong, which has historically been part of China since the Zhou Dynasty. I’ve never heard anyone claim that Confucius is Korean - and I have a lot of Korean friends. Only online I see questions like this.

孔子是中国人。他出生在今天的山东，山东自周朝以来一直属于中国。我从来没有听谁说过孔子是韩国人—我有很多韩国朋友。我只在网上看到过这样的问题。

Shan Liu

Confucius is clearly Chinese, the concept of Korean did not exst when he was alive. Just like claiming Jesus is American is crazy.

More importantly Confucious is famous for his occupation as a teacher, he teaches the Chinese language and chinese history before Korean language exsted.

孔子很明显是中国人。孔子在世时，韩国这个国家都还不存在呢。这个说法和耶稣是美国人一样奇葩。

更重要的是，孔子以传道受业解惑而扬名天下，他教授中国语言和中国历史的时候，这个世界上还没有出现韩语。