Could Russia defeat Europe without the U.S.?

没有美国，俄罗斯能打败欧洲吗？

以下是Quora网友的评价：

Roy Chambers

Russia has enough nukes to defeat Europe easily and is big enough that Europe nukes won’t kill too many people in Russia.

But in a conventional war it becomes interesting. Russia’s large tank and ground forces have the ability to be mobilised and spread out across Europe. Europe’s technological superiority would mean that Russia’s air forces are dominated, with strikes against supply lines etc. Russia’s tanks would eventually be stopped and destroyed.

But Russia would remain undefeated in the sense that Europe can’t attack Russia without being nuked. So it is a draw. Everyone loses.

俄罗斯有足够多的核武器，可以轻松打败欧洲，俄罗斯的国土面积也足够大，欧洲的核武器不可能杀死太多俄罗斯人。

但如果是常规战争就很有意思了。俄罗斯有能力动员庞大的坦克军团和地面部队，分散到欧洲各地。欧洲的技术优势将意味着他们将压制俄罗斯的空军力量，打击补给线等。俄罗斯的坦克最终会被拦截并摧毁。

但俄罗斯不会被打败，因为欧洲若攻击俄罗斯，肯定会被俄罗斯的核武器攻击。所以双方会打个平局，两败俱伤。

Per Westling

Russia together with USA could probably defeat Europe.

But Russia alone, without USA? No, they do not have the resources for that.

俄罗斯和美国加在一起，有可能打败欧洲。

但如果只有俄罗斯自己，没有美国？不，他们没有这种本事。

Logan O'Halloran

yeah totally.. so ill start a scenario so ik where to go Putin realized the War in Ukraine isnt going well so they Invade Finland, Poland the baltic States and Romania. Russian Troops unequipted Rush into battle. for some Reason America and Canada say they dont want war and all US Soilders leave europe. the French, German, Ittalian and British Armys Rush east to Combat the Russians.

Two Scenarios they go differently (USING ONLY RUSSIA AND EUROPE)

是的 . .普京发现乌克兰战事进展不顺利，所以他们入侵了芬兰、波兰、波罗的海国家和罗马尼亚。缺乏装备的俄军冲进战场。出于某些原因，美国和加拿大表示他们不想参战，所有的美国士兵都撤出了欧洲大陆。法国、德国、意大利和英国军队向东挺进，和俄国人作战。

会出现两种不同的情况(只有俄罗斯和欧洲)：

1.Russia Nukes europe and Britan and France Reply with Nuculear Strikes on russia

2.Russia gets pushed back and theres an Allied March on Moscow and St. Petersberg before the Next US Election can even happen i give Russia at most 10 months without using nukes before they lose. and im being highly considerate

Hope this helped. Long live the Soviet Union!

1.俄罗斯对欧洲实施核打击，英国和法国对俄罗斯进行核打击。

2.俄罗斯被击退，在下一次美国大选之前，莫斯科和圣彼得堡组织盟军进军，如果不动用核武器，我预测俄罗斯在战败前最多能维持10个月。我这么说已经够意思了。

希望这个回答对你有所帮助。苏联万岁!

Dave Shrum

No. Right now Russia's conventional Army cannot defeat Ukraine. There is no way in hell it could invade Europe successfully. And if they were dumb enough to use nukes everyone else would use nukes and bye-bye.

不。就目前而言，俄罗斯的常规军队无法击败乌克兰。俄罗斯根本不可能成功入侵欧洲。如果俄罗斯蠢到启用核武器，其他国家也会用核武器反击的，然后大家一起玩完儿。

Letsbump .

No. I think western European nations would be scared shirtless, and the citizens would volunteer to fight. Their only drawback is the severe lack of firearms readily available to the general public. If they had more guns in the hands of the citizens, Russia wouldn't be so quick to try a ground invasion.

不。我认为西欧国家会吓得屁滚尿流，西欧国家的公民们会自愿参战。他们唯一的缺点是严重缺乏枪支，公众无法随时获得枪支。如果他们手中有足够的枪，俄罗斯就不会这么快入侵了。

The same cannot be said for the United States. We're already armed to the teeth. During WW2, the Japanese and Germans alike were keenly aware that any armies that chose to breach our shores would get chewed to pieces by the citizens alone. Today, China and Russia are pushing for the U.S. to take the guns from its citizens through U.N. small arms treaties that we keep refusing to sign. This has been their push for 2 decades and running. They both want our agriculture and petroleum. Problem is, we're armed, and they damn well know we're not just going to let them waltz in here and take control, as long as the citizens are adequately armed. Take our guns, a foreign army takes our country. That's a fact. If the Europeans were more adequately armed, no country would be looking to crash their borders.

美国的情况就不一样了。我们美国人已经全副武装了。二战期间，日本人和德国人都敏锐地意识到，想要突破美国海岸线的军队都会被美国公民撕个稀碎。今天，中国和俄罗斯正通过美国一直拒绝签署的联合国轻武器管控条约，敦促美国从其公民手中收缴枪支。

他们20年来一直在推动这项条约。他们都想要我们的农业和石油。但问题是，我们美国人有武器，他们很清楚我们不会让他们轻松得逞。如果拿走我们的枪，外国军队就会夺走我们的国家。这是事实。如果欧洲人有更充足的武器，就没有国家敢侵犯他们的边境线了。

William Perry

Hello, America cannot defeat Russia Europe cannot the US cannot defeat Europe and Russia cannot defeat Europe or the US, each country has nuclear subs that no one knows where there are, each nuclear weapon can contain 12 warheads,, 4 nuclear weapons from a sub, kills nearly everyone , we don’t attack them because they don’t attack us, but each country says that to the other country just the UK on its own has enough Nuclear weapons to kill nearly everyone in the US, a surprise attack by any nation will kill everyone in that country, but the country you attack will attack back, and that is without all the aircraft carriers.

你好，美国无法击败俄罗斯，欧洲也无法几百俄罗斯。美国无法击败欧洲，俄罗斯也无法击败欧洲或美国。这些国家都有核潜艇，虽然没有人知道核潜艇在哪里，每个核武器可以携带12个核弹头，4个核武器几乎就足以让人类灭绝。我们没有攻打他们，因为他们没有攻打我们，但就英国而言，英国拥有的核武器就足以杀光美国人，任何国家发动突然袭击，都能杀死那个国家的所有人，但被你攻击的国家也会反击，这还没有算上所有的航空母舰。

SPARKS

Yes, if they got their selves in order (planned in advance) Russia could not field enough men and equipment to roll over Russia. Europe is ready for them.

是的，如果他们把自己安排好(提前规划好)，俄罗斯就无法派出足够的人员和装备来守卫俄罗斯。欧洲已经做好了准备。

Andre Lieven

If Russia tried to attack Europe, NATO troops would be in Moscow in about two weeks.

Russia’s military SUCKS, and their gear are CRAP.

如果俄罗斯想攻打欧洲，北约部队将在大约两周内抵达莫斯科。

俄罗斯军队早已不堪一击，俄罗斯的装备也都是垃圾。

Fozzie VII

Oh hell no. They would never get past Poland, or Finland. The threat of invasion from the USSR is well and truly dead. One thing we saw, even in the start of the Ukraine war, was the abysmal state of the Russian military. Their best, was half broken, running on cheap Chinese or even North Korean parts, and the troops not much better.

哦，不。他们永远也赢不了波兰和芬兰。苏联入侵的威胁已经完全失效了。我们已经发现了，就在乌克兰战争爆发之初，俄罗斯军队的表现就已经很糟糕了。俄罗斯的主力装备已经毁损了一半，现在只能用廉价的中国零件甚至朝鲜零件，俄罗斯军队也好不到哪里去。

Johnny Buck

Most of European countries are in NATO

So if you attack one, you will face the US nevertheless

Short answer: No

大多数欧洲国家都是北约成员国

所以如果你进攻其中一个国家，你就是跟美国对着干

所以简单回答的话：不能。

David Joseph Kushner

It’s doubtful to me that Russia could defeat Europe militarily without the U.S., but don’t worry - if Trump wins in 2024, Russia WILL HAVE the USA’s help in defeating Europe.

我怀疑俄罗斯在没有美国的情况下无法在军事上击败欧洲，但别担心—如果特朗普在2024年获胜，俄罗斯将在美国的帮助下击败欧洲。

Rick Bouwman

No, Russia would absolutely need the US to be able to defeat Europe. There’s no way Russia could do it alone :-)

But even if the US would not help Europe, I don’t see it happening like, ever, that the US would help Russia.

不，俄罗斯绝对需要美国才能打败欧洲。俄罗斯不可能单独做到这一点。

但即使美国不帮助欧洲，我也不认为美国会帮助俄罗斯。

Mats Andersson

I always preface this sort of answers by saying “Money isn’t everything, but…”

Russia’s defense budget: USD 86.4 bn

European NATO’s defense budget: USD 300 bn

There are two additional factors here:

我在回答这类问题之前总会先说一句：“钱不是万能的，但是……”

俄罗斯国防预算：864亿美元

欧洲北约国防预算：3000亿美元

还有两个额外的因素：

Russia needs to be able to defend against other threats. China, India, the Central Asian republics.

The events of the past 2 years have proven beyond any doubt, reasonable or unreasonable, that Russia get radically less bang – in fact, the 86.4 bn are pre-embezzlement, and only a fraction of the allotted money actually go towards any meaningful military capability.

俄罗斯还必须有能力抵御其他威胁。中国，印度，中亚共和国。

过去两年的事件已经毫无疑问地证明，俄罗斯得到的打击要少得多—事实上，864亿美元已经被预先挪用了，只有一小部分拨款真正用于维持军事能力。

Or you could just look at it this way:

Russia is completely incapable of defeating Ukraine. What on Earth makes you think Russia is even capable of mounting a meaningful attack on the rest of Europe?

或者你可以这样想：

俄罗斯完全没有能力击败乌克兰。那么究竟是什么让你认为俄罗斯有能力对欧洲其他国家发动有效进攻？

Chris Ervin

No. There are multiple European countries with world-class defense contractors to support their equipment needs and real world experience fighting alongside the US in the war on terror.

Poland could, in all likelihood, defeat Russia by itself. The West believed Russian propaganda about its strength for decades. Russia has been exposed in Ukraine. Russia is not going to beat any country of substance.

不。世界一流的军工企业可以满足许多欧洲国家的装备需求，也能提供在反恐战争中与美国并肩作战的现实经验。

波兰完全有可能凭借一己之力打败俄罗斯。几十年来，西方一直相信俄罗斯关于其军事实力的宣传。但俄罗斯的真实实力在乌克兰战争中早已暴露无遗。俄罗斯无法打败任何有实力的国家。

Jim

No, there are some pretty tough customers in Europe. Like Sweden, and France. And they have Russia outnumbered.

不，欧洲有一些很难对付的国家，比如瑞典和法国。而且他们的人口超过了俄罗斯。

Fred Swordsman

Short answer here is no.

To “beat" europe they'd have to get through around or over Poland.

Let's be clear, the Polish are waiting for Russia to try it. They want payback for the soviet rule and they should scare Putin.

简短的回答是否定的。

要“打败”欧洲，俄罗斯必须绕过或越过波兰。

我们要知道，波兰人正在等着俄罗斯呢。他们想要报复苏联的统治，他们应该吓唬吓唬普京。

Stefan Gebhardt

No. They couldn't before they went to war with Ukraine, and now they've lost their best fighting units, thousands of tanks and hundreds of planes and helicopters.

If this today had been the state of the Russian army 2 years ago they would never have invaded Ukraine.

It's hard to tell if Putin still believes what he says in his speeches, or if its all just made up and he knows it, just so he can cling to power.

不。在跟乌克兰开战之前，他们也做不到，现在他们最强的战斗部队、数千辆坦克、数百架飞机和直升机都折进去了。

如果回到两年前，那么今天的俄罗斯军队绝不会入侵乌克兰。

我们不知道普京是不是还相信自己在演讲中所说的话，或者他也清楚一切都是为了保住权力而编造的。

Leslie Dellow

No. In a word. In terms of the size of their militaries, the EU and Russia are on about level pegging.

In terms of defence spending, Russia (currently at war) spends $86.3 billion on defence, whereas the three largest economies in the EU, together with the UK, (none of them currently at war) spend $211.4 billion on defence.

不。总之。就其军事规模而言，欧盟和俄罗斯几乎处于同一水平。

在国防支出方面，俄罗斯(目前处于战争状态)在国防上花费了863亿美元，而欧盟三个最大的经济体，加上英国(目前没有一个处于战争状态)在国防上一共花费了2114亿美元。

Mark Baldwin

No, Russia would absolutely need the US to defeat Europe. But it would really be the US defeating Europe. Russia would really only be a minor player.

But one must ask, why in hell would the US ally with a two bit fascist country like Russia?

不，俄罗斯绝对需要美国才能击败欧洲。但要打败欧洲就靠美国，俄罗斯只是一个小配角。

但人们必须问一问，美国到底为什么要和俄罗斯这样的法西斯国家结盟？

Robert M. Wallis

I seriously doubt it. Their manpower pool of young men is depleting rapidly and many of them are getting out of Dodge to avoid conscription. At this point, they’ve exhausted about half of their cash reserves. Their performance is showing them to be paper tigers, having to acquire arms and material from other countries. They’re rapidly heading towards bankruptcy. Someone, sooner or later, will put a bullet in the back of Putin’s head, assuming cancer doesn’t finish him first.

我对此深表怀疑。俄罗斯的年轻男性人口正在迅速消失，他们中的许多人都开始逃避兵役。俄罗斯已经耗尽了大约一半的现金储备。他们的表现说明他们只是纸老虎，只能从其他国家获得武器和材料。如果普京没被癌症拖死，那么迟早也会有人朝他后脑勺开一枪。

Andreas Svensson

Russia is struggling to fight one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe. What would make anyone think it could take on the entire continent?

俄罗斯正在努力对抗欧洲最贫穷、最腐败的国家之一。是什么让人觉得俄罗斯有能力整个大陆呢？

R. W. Carmichael

Not no, but Hell NO! Russia cannot even defeat the Ukraine which has no significant navy and has an air force and military that is mostly old Soviet junk.

不可能，绝对不可能！俄罗斯连乌克兰都搞不定，乌克兰甚至还没有强大的海军，乌克兰的空军和陆军大多也还在使用苏联时期的破烂武器。

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