Is the international image of Indians improving or getting worse?
印度人的国际形象是在改善还是在恶化?
以下是Quora网友的评价:
Annie Ford
No, it's getting worse. During my brief period working at Wipro in the U.S., I stayed in Dallas for two months and observed the lifestyles of both U.S. and Indian individuals. Unfortunately, most of the time I felt regressive when encountering fellow Indians in a foreign land. As an Indian myself, it's not about tarnishing our country's reputation, but rather the harsh reality that I have witnessed: Indians can be racist towards other Indians abroad.
不,情况越来越糟了。在美国威普罗工作的短暂期间,我在达拉斯住了两个月,观察了美国人和印度人的生活方式。很遗憾,我在异国他乡遇到印度同胞时,我常常感到退步。作为一个印度人,我并非是要玷污我们国家的声誉,但我亲眼目睹了一个残酷的现实:印度人对侨居海外的印度人带着一种种族歧视的态度。
One of the concerning aspects I noticed is the deep-rooted caste system. Indians living in the U.S. take great pride in their castes and often form separate communities based on them. I understand that some individuals left India due to the lack of opportunities created by the reservation system. However, in this modern era, is it really necessary to continue practicing the caste system, especially in a developed country like the U.S.? I have encountered situations where people still segregate themselves based on caste while dining, leaving me to request to join a different group during lunch because I do not belong to their caste.
我发现一个令人担忧的方面,在于根深蒂固的种姓观念。生活在美国的印度人对自己的种姓非常自豪,并经常会以种姓为基础形成独立的社区。据我所知,有些人离开印度是因为预留制给他们提供的机会太少了。但在现代社会,种姓制度还真的有必要继续实行吗,尤其是在美国这种发达国家?我还遇到过这种情况:人们在用餐时仍然根据种姓安排座位,要求我在午餐时加入其他群体,因为我不属于他们的种姓。
Another issue I faced is the preconceived notions about Indian customers when it comes to tip. While dining with foreigners in a local restaurant, a waiter gave us a strange look upon realizing we were Indians. One of the employees then explained that Indian customers often leave low or no tips. In India, tip is considered optional, but in the U.S., it is customary to tip 15-20% of the bill.
Language racism is another problem I encountered. There was a person from Tamil Nadu who did not know Hindi, although his presentation was in English. During an outing outside the office, some North Indian individuals insulted and mocked him for not knowing Hindi. Just because Hindi is widely spoken in India does not mean that everyone should be expected to learn it.
我面临的另一个问题是,在给小费方面,人们对印度顾客有一种先入为主的看法。我在当地一家餐馆与外国人一起用餐,一名服务员发现我们是印度人后,用奇怪的眼神看了我们一眼。其中一名员工解释说,是因为印度顾客经常只会给很少的小费,甚至完全不给小费。在印度,给不给小费是自己决定的,但在美国,普遍习惯要按账单的15-20%支付小费。
语言方面的种族歧视是我遇到的另一个问题。有一个来自泰米尔纳德邦的人不懂印地语,他是用英语进行发言的。有一次公司组织团建,有些北印度人因为他不懂印地语而侮辱他、嘲笑他。虽然印地语在印度得到了广泛使用,但并不意味着每个印度人都应该学习印地语。
Lastly, the difference in office management between the U.S. and India is quite significant. The management in our country treats employees poorly and lacks concern for their well-being. This was highlighted during a meeting with our branch managing director (MD) in the evening. It was already 5 pm, the usual checkout time for locals, and everyone was preparing to leave. However, our Indian MD was engrossed in a topic and shouted at the employees. Thankfully, the American branch head took control and asked our Indian MD to apologize to his employees.
最后,美国和印度在办公室管理方面的差异也非常显著。印度管理层对员工极差,不关心员工的福利。这一点在某天晚上与分公司总经理的会议上得到了映证。当时已经是下午5点了,当地员工都准备下班了。但印度总经理还没结束某个议题,他冲员工大喊大叫。谢天谢地,美国分公司的负责人控制了局面,要求印度总经理向他的员工道歉。
These incidents in the U.S. have made me feel ashamed as an Indian. I apologize if anyone feels offended by my points, as I am only recounting my personal experiences and not intending to insult anyone.
If you are interested in understanding more about the contributions of Indians in various global industries, I encourage you to read the article "From Bollywood to Boardrooms: Indians Revolutionizing Global Industries."
这些在美国发生的事件让我这个印度人感到十分羞愧。如果有人觉得我的观点冒犯了您,我向您道歉,我只是在讲述我的个人经历,我没想侮辱任何人。
如果你有兴趣了解更多印度人在全球产业中的贡献,我建议你读一读《从宝莱坞到董事会:印度人变革全球产业》这篇文章。
A Mohamed Nazel
It was improving … until the Modi government started the genocide of the Muslims… nowadays almost everywhere in the Muslim world the Hindus are considered terrorists..Even in Western countries and many Asian countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei, Philippines, and Japan, Hindu tourists are screened for extremism in the background and watched…
So the image of Indians are getting worse , the Modi government has put a target on their backs…Before this genocide, Muslims, Hindus and Christians lived side by side in India for centuries.
印度本来一直在进步的,但是莫迪政府开始对MSL实施种族灭绝,如今在MSL世界的几乎所有地方,印度教徒都被视为恐怖分子。就连在西方国家和许多亚洲国家,如印度尼西亚、马来西亚、文莱、菲律宾和日本,印度游客也会在后台接受极端主义的筛查和监视。
所以印度人的形象越来越差了,莫迪政府在他们身上安了靶子,在此次种族灭绝之前,MSL、印度教徒和基督徒在印度和谐共处了几个世纪。
Rakesh N
Most of the answers below are based on Individual experiences in the foreign country which is linked to personal attitude.
I have worked 6yrs in the UK, few years in some EU nations and 8yrs in Australasia continent and I wanted to share my observations regarding the improving image of Indians in both New Zealand and the United Kingdom. Over the past few years, I have noticed a positive shift in how the local communities perceive Indians in these countries.
以下大多数答案都是基于个人在国外的经历,这与个人态度有关。
我在英国工作了6年,在欧盟国家工作了几年,也在澳大利亚工作了8年,我想说,我发现新西兰和英国的印度人的形象有了提升。在过去的几年里,我注意到这些国家的居民对印度人的看法发生了积极的变化。
In New Zealand, there seems to be an increased appreciation for the cultural diversity that Indian communities bring. The vibrant traditions, delicious cuisine, and contributions to various fields have been warmly welcomed, fostering a more inclusive environment. It's heartening to see a growing recognition of the rich tapestry of Indian culture and a diminishing of stereotypes.
Similarly, in the UK, there appears to be a positive evolution in the perception of Indians. The accomplishments of individuals of Indian origin in various fields, from academia to business and the arts, have played a significant role in sha a more positive image. Additionally, cultural events and celebrations have helped bridge gaps and build understanding between communities.
在新西兰,人们似乎越来越欣赏印度社区带来的文化多样性。印度充满活力的传统、美味佳肴和对各个领域的贡献受到大家的欢迎,营造了更加包容的环境。看到越来越多的人认识到印度文化的丰富性,对印度的刻板印象越来越少,真是令人振奋。
同样的,在英国,人们对印度人的看法似乎也出现了积极的变化。印度裔个人在学术界、商业和艺术等各个领域取得的成就,为塑造印度的积极形象发挥了重要的作用。此外,文化活动和庆祝活动有助于弥合彼此的分歧,增强社区之间的理解。
These positive changes contribute not only to the integration of Indians into the broader society but also to the strengthening of multiculturalism in these countries.
I believe these developments are essential for fostering harmony and understanding among different communities, and I am hopeful that this positive trajectory will continue in the future.
这些积极的变化不仅有助于帮助印度人融入当地社会,也有助于加强这些国家的多元文化主义。
我相信,这些发展对于促进不同社区之间的和谐相处与相互理解都至关重要,我希望未来这种积极的趋势还能延续。
Human
Previous foreigners viewed all Asian(mainly Chinese and Indian) as genius they couldn't understand how so many chinese and Indian could be so smart, that they win and reach finals of games like spelling bee, chess and games across other category which require brain power.
They saw us as develo, as a competition and also as a threat that's why they didn't want us to have nuclear power.
以前的外国人认为亚洲人(主要是中国人和印度人)都是天才,他们无法理解为什么中国人和印度人这么聪明,可以在拼写比赛、国际象棋和其他需要脑力的游戏中进入决赛并获胜。
他们认为我们在发展,这是一种竞争,也是一种威胁,所以他们不希望我们拥有核武器。
Previously we were called Indians
but now the term Hindus is more in use
Previously they saw us as a scientist, engineer, chef, truck driver electrician etc
But now we are seen as backward thinking with supremacist ego, fascist etc
以前我们被称为印度人
但现在更多的是用印度教徒这个词
以前他们认为我们都是科学家、工程师、厨师、卡车司机、电工等等
但现在我们就是思想落后、自我至上、法西斯分子等的代名词
If you talk about view of indian government in international media its much worse,
India has been criticised for various reason,
From freedom of speech, to injustice, to rise in rape and economic frauds, to the things that can't be said here the list is long.
如果要论国际媒体对印度政府的看法,那就更糟糕了。
印度因各种原因受到批评,
从言论*由,到司法不公,到强奸案和经济欺诈案的攀升,到不能在这里讨论的事,简直多如牛毛。
And this is so bad the normal news reporters have questioned and it's administration brutally
Where as people who reporters with satire like john oliver, Trevor noah also show that image of Indian government is bad.
We don't need to see international news to understand their view of us,
What organizations like , human right watch etc says about India will give you good understand.
Recently in a us state a bill was passed against caste discrimination, such things are happening, what made them do this, it's the hate that's been spread in India by government that knows nothing but to divide and rule.
约翰·奥利弗和特雷弗·诺亚等记者也表示印度政府的形象很糟糕。
我们不需要看国际新闻来了解他们对我们的看法,
人*观察等组织对印度的看法能让你更好地理解。
最近美国有个州通过了一项反对种姓歧视的法案,这样的事情不断发生,是什么让他们这样做呢?正是印度政府传播的仇恨,印度政府啥也不懂,只知道分而治之。
Krish V Nair
There are three visible indicators for one's impression of any specific nationality;
一个人对其他民族的印象有三个明显的因素:
1.The number of people who overstay the legal period.
2.Their social conduct while staying in a foreign country.
3. Their adherence to local rules.
1. 非法滞留当地的人数。
2. 他们在外国逗留期间的行为举止。
3. 他们对当地规则是否遵守。
Out of this, the only box that Indians do not tick is is the first one, because of lack of employment opportunity in their native country. When it comes to the second category, the days of PETER SELLER'S PARTY and the gauche’ Indian is a thing of the past and the third category was hardly ever an issue with them.
However, as India has emerged as a growing economic power, there is a perception that Indians gave become more cocky (and even upstart) of late. That has been an issue which may take a while to change, as both sides get used to the change.
除此之外,印度人仅在第一点表现不佳,因为他们的祖国实在缺乏就业机会。说到第二点,彼得·塞勒斯酒会和粗鲁的印度人已经成为过去,第三点对印度人来说几乎从来都不是问题。
但随着印度的崛起,印度成为一个日益增长的经济大国,有人认为印度人近来越来越骄傲(甚至是傲慢)。这是一个需要一段时间才能改变的问题,因为双方都会习惯这种变化。
Pete Singh
It depends on how news about India is reported in different countries. The emphasis is on bad news stories. ‘Dog bites man. No news. Man bites dog - it’s news!’
However, India is learning & addressing this issue with its own news channels like WION. It regularly reports on India’s remarkable achievements. This channel better reflects people’s experience of Indians & India.
这取决于不同国家如何报道有关印度的新闻,尤其是坏消息。“狗咬人,很正常。人咬狗—大新闻!”
不过印度正在通过自己的新闻频道学习和解决这个问题。印度定期报道国家新近取得的显著成就。这个频道更好地反映了印度人和印度的生活。
There has been a lot of negative news coverage of Modi’s perceived Hindu extremism. A European channel went to investigate Hindu extremism but found only a few men with sticks near the highway, investigating if any cows had been mistreated!
One of these so-called ‘Hindu extremists’ said Modi had been in power for 9 years but he had not seen any sign of a Hindu state!
对于莫迪的印度教极端主义,负面的新闻报道很多。欧洲某个新闻频道调查了印度教极端主义,但发现只有几个人拿着棍子在高速公路附近调查是否有人虐待神牛!
其中一名所谓的“印度教极端分子”说,莫迪已经执政9年了,但他完全没有看到印度教国家的迹象!
Santosh Kumar
Why is that important? What an American or Brit thinks about Indians is not going to change a lot. The median thinking has always been India being a poor nation with some IT nerds. The thing that should first improve is how an Indian perceives another Indian. That unfortunately is still colored by caste creed and regionalism.
这很重要吗?美国人或英国人对印度人的看法并不会有太大改变。大家普遍认为印度是一个贫穷的国家,有一些IT行业的书呆子。我们首先应该改善的是印度人如何看待同胞的问题。但不幸的是,大家仍然受到种姓信条和地区主义的影响。
Omar Abouzeid
I would personally think it is getting better, but it is still an overall negative image because of apparent manifestations of poverty and backwardness.
我个人认为印度人的国际形象越来越好了,但由于印度依然贫穷落后,印度人的国际形象整体而言还是负面的。
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