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多少枚东风-26B弹道导弹能消灭一支美国航母战斗群,外国网友的评论

 How Many Chinese DF-26B Ballistic Missiles Could Beat A US Carrier Group?

多少枚东风-26B弹道导弹能击败一支美国航母战斗群?

Today we ask the question of how many Chinese anti-ship DF-26B ballistic hypersonic missiles it would take to overwhelm a large US carrier strike group.

今天我们要问的问题是,需要多少枚东风-26B反舰弹道高超音速导弹才能击败一大型美国航母战斗群。

 

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以下是外国网友的评论:

shanshan2077

In this game, anti-aircraft weapons almost achieve a 100% interception rate, but in reality it is not like that.

在这个模拟游戏中,防空武器几乎达到了100%的拦截率,但在现实中却并非如此。

 

user-ft2zc5or9d

If SM-3 works.. im gonna go out on a limb and say 60

如果SM-3管用,我要大胆地说60枚

 

yuuzyerbrejn9603

I remember reading in that one part of the Dead Sea Scrolls how they used "sacred numbers" to calculate how many Chinese ballistic missiles it would take to render a US carrier strike group ineffective. The upshot being that, according to their interpretation of the Bahgavad Ghita, Confucious may already have done those calculations using cuneiform on the Mayan Calendar. He was within 10% of your results. Glad to see it visualized here.

我记得在《死海古卷》中读到他们如何使用“神圣数字”来计算需要多少中国弹道导弹才能击败美国航母战斗群。

结果是,根据他们对《博伽梵歌》的解读,孔子可能已经用玛雅历法上的楔形文字做了这些计算。

他和你的结果相差不到10%

很高兴在这里看到计算结果的可视化。

 

benjaminshropshire2900

IIRC Minuteman III is all solid fuel and does shut off the last stage by explosively dum pressure.

如果我没记错,民兵-3号是全固体燃料,并通过爆炸性的倾倒压力关闭了最后一级。

 

Z0mbi3bait

AEGIS is such a damn good battlefield management system. Incredible that this is likely an underestimation of its efficiency.

宙斯盾是一个非常好的战场管理系统。令人难以置信的是,可能低估了它的效率。

 

dfmrcv862

Hmm... if what Habitual Line Crosser said is true, then the issue isn't that the missiles are bad, but that the hypersonics can't maneuver in terminal phases since they're going so fast, so it's not that difficult to predict where it'll be and where you can intercept it.

如果惯线穿越者所说的是真的,那么问题就不是导弹不好,而是高超音速导弹速度太快了,在末端阶段无法机动,所以预测它的位置和可以拦截它的位置并不难。

 

moxygenpathogen7678

NCIS gonna be happy with your simulation. Thank you for your service

海军罪案调查处会对你的模拟很满意的,谢谢你的服务

 

svensvensson2724

Please do a version of this using different types of missiles.

Cruise missiles and ballistic missiles of various speeds up to hypersonics, various altitudes and angles of attack.

All timed to arrive at the same moment.

请用不同类型的导弹做相应的版本。巡航导弹和各种速度的弹道导弹,一直到高超音速,各种高度和攻击角度,都设置在同一时间到达。

 

ronabernathy8763

With the high number of missile interceptions at relatively the same time, I'm wondering how the debris field would affect the DF's flying at those speeds.

在相对相同的时间内拦截大量的导弹,我想知道这么多的碎片将会对“东风”的高速度飞行产生什么影响。

 

delphy2478

i want to point out that according to what i found on the internet, china has something like 200 total of these missiles. so they could theoretically try this trick like 2-3 times

我想指出的是,根据我在网上找到的资料,中国总共有大约200枚“东风”-26B弹道导弹,理论上他们可以试2-3次

 

dougroberts3840

Interesting video, I noticed that you had the carrier fleet stationary, not sure, but I don't believe they would remain still, would it make a difference if the fleet was moving? Just wondering

有趣,我注意到航母舰队静止不动,但我不相信他们会保持静止,我想知道如果舰队移动,结果会有什么不同?

 

jillianmacdonald8057

how does a DF21 with a terminal descent rate of mach 9 get chased and shot down from BEHIND by SM2 or SM3 or SM6 with a speed half that?

末端下降速度为9马赫的东风-21是如何被速度只有它一半的SM2或SM3或SM6从后面追上来的?

 

CreeTerror

Finally, an answer to the question that has been bothering philosophers for millennia!

这个困扰了哲学家上千年的问题终于有了答案

 

matthewkern3619

Other than bothering to manouvre, the most obvious countermeasure would be double carrier groups,with double the number of ships.  Oh, yeah, they could make smoke.

除了机动之外,最明显的对策是将航母战斗群的数量增加一倍。对了,他们可以释放烟雾。

 

trevor21241842

Crazy to me that no other nation could even do something like this in the first place

疯狂的是,其他国家没有一个做得到这样的

 

KrisTheLVN

I'd love to see how a fleet in motion or under maneuvers would change the POK.

我很想看看一个正在移动或正在演习的舰队将如何改变巴控克什米尔的局势。

 

obsidianstatue

It's funny how they automatically assume non-western weapons to be defective.

When the game portrays NATO systems to have 100% interception rates.

Also how they questions the accuracy of DF-26s going at Mach 6, while the SM-3s going at the same speed (and requiring to hit much smaller and faster target) was not questioned whether it's a feasible weapon or not.

有趣的是,他们自认为非西方武器是有缺陷的。他们认为北约系统的拦截率能达到100%,此外,他们质疑东风 -26以6马赫速度飞行的准确性,而SM -3以同样的速度飞行(并且需要击中更小更快的目标)却没有被质疑是否可行

 

guitarninjarick8179

AGEIS is probably the most advanced anti air system in the world so well done

宙斯盾可能是世界上最先进的防空系统,干得好!

 

solace001

Like everyone else, I want to know what would happen to an older fleet. Perhaps something from the 80's.

和其他人一样,我想知道如果是旧舰队,情况会发生什么,比如80年代的舰队。

 

josealexander9794

Wouldn't be part of the carrier group defense to just engage those missiles with a close trajectory to the carrier? I'd assume that knowing their ballistic trajectory, there wouldn't be a need to shoot down each missile.  Can it be simulated?

航母群防御系统,不就是对付那些弹道接近航母的导弹吗?我认为知道了它们的弹道轨迹,就没有必要把每枚导弹都击落了,能模拟吗?

 

rnash999

If the ballistic missiles were launched from multiple cardinal directions would that make any difference to the defenders?

如果弹道导弹从多个主要方向发射,这对防御方有什么影响吗?

 

MrNakedweasel

Every source I've read says the weapons are guided by radar in the terminal phase.

我看到的所有消息都说武器在最后阶段是由雷达制导的。

 

daviddavid5880

I often ponder the implications. We would lose our collective mind if we lost a carrier. We haven't lost a carrier to enemy action since 1945. We would flip the eff OUT.

如果失去了一艘航母,我们就失败了。自1945年以来,我们还没有被敌人打掉过一艘航母。我们会发狂的。

 

Finn-FrenchGaming

Would a group of sea drones or submarines be more effective?

一组海上无人机或潜艇更管用吧?

 

Snowwie88

I would say, within that carrier group they should have just a dedicated launch ship that can house 500 SM-3 missiles and leave the rest of the defense to the fleet.

我想说,在这个航母战斗群里,他们应该有一艘专门的发射导弹的军舰,可以容纳500枚标准-3导弹,剩下的防御任务留给舰队。

 

chlim9478

I think the Chinese might had made their missiles' flight path erratic because perhaps they knew that a simple path won't work.

我认为中国人可能让他们的导弹飞行路径飘忽不定,否则容易被拦截。

 

wmk4454

US navy be like: random bullshit go

美国海军会说:扯淡吧

 

HuxleysShaggyDog

There are no penetration aids with the Chinese missiles? No multiple warheads, stealth warheads, decoys, EW or jamming?

中国导弹没有突防设备吗?没有多弹头、隐形弹头、诱饵、电子战或干扰?

 

choctaw2sticks193

69 is always the magic number . . . too funny you guys.

69永远是一个神奇的数字,你们太搞笑了。

 

wmk4454

What's the difference between DF-26 and the DF-ZF?

东风-26和东风-ZF有什么区别?

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