为什么比亚迪的电动汽车出口价格是中国的两倍

Why BYD's EV exports sell for twice the China price

为什么比亚迪的电动汽车出口价格是中国的两倍？

LONDON (Reuters) - U.S. and European politicians have raised alarms that their domestic auto industries could be destroyed by a wave of cheap Chinese electric vehicles. But so far, China's top EV maker, BYD, has dramatically hiked export prices compared to what it charges at home rather than undercut foreign rivals.

In some foreign showrooms, BYD charges more than double — sometimes nearly triple — the price it gets for three key models in China, according to a Reuters review of the automaker’s pricing in five of its biggest export markets.

路透伦敦8月11日电：美国和欧洲政界人士警告称，他们的国内汽车产业可能会被中国产的廉价电动汽车冲垮。但到目前为止，中国最大的电动汽车制造商比亚迪已经大幅提高了出口价格，不再以低于外国竞争对手的价格出售电动车。

路透社对比亚迪在五大出口市场的定价进行了调查，结果显示，在有些国外展厅，比亚迪三款热门车型的售价是中国市场售价的两倍多，甚至接近三倍。

BYD did not respond to a request for comment. Company Chairman Wang Chuangfu in March told investors in a private meeting that BYD expects exports to help shore up profitability this year as a domestic price war weighs on its margins.

It’s common for automakers to charge slightly different prices for exports of the same or similar versions of a vehicle. But the sheer size of BYD’s upcharges for overseas markets is rare, said Sam Fiorani, vice president of global forecasting at market research firm AutoForecast Solutions.

比亚迪没有回应置评请求。比亚迪董事长王传福今年3月在一次非公开会议上对投资者说，比亚迪预计车辆出口有助于支撑公司今年的盈利，因为中国国内的电动车价格战令公司利润率承受较大压力。

汽车制造商为相同或类似车型的出口产品设定略微不同的价格，是很常见的做法。但市场研究公司AutoForecast Solutions负责全球预测的副总裁菲奥拉尼说，比亚迪在海外市场的提价幅度之大实属罕见。

以下是美国雅虎网友的评论

Let's not use Chinese EV as a reference. What about Tesla, who sells cars much cheaper and with a lot more features in China as well, compared to the price in the US. China is a highly competitive market where trade protection in EV is non-exsting.

我们不用把中国的电动汽车当做参考。特斯拉呢？和美国的价格相比，特斯拉在中国销售的汽车更便宜，功能也更多。中国市场竞争非常激烈，电动汽车不存在贸易保护。

Truth

Smart business move. Bring your product in with the matching base price of the local competition, reduce price by ten percent and rake in massive profits.

这种商业手段非常聪明。把自己产品的定价和当地竞争对手的底价相持平，进入当地市场，降价10%，就能大赚一笔。

james

It's capitalism at it's worst/best and China has learned that from the West. A BYD in Mexco is expected to be priced at $10 thousand or less but the market price varies as shown in this news article.

But everywhere it goes, it's intent is to price these vehicles significantly less than a Tesla

这是zb主义最坏/最好的一面，中国也是跟西方学的。一辆比亚迪在墨西哥的售价预计在1万美元或更低，但正如这篇新闻文章所示，市场价格各不相同。

但无论在哪个市场，比亚迪的目的都是让车价远低于特斯拉

Möritz

The Germans and Americans made Billions selling cars in China. Now the same people put tariffs on the Chinese cars coming into Europe and the USA.

德国人和美国人在中国销售汽车，赚了数十亿美元。现在，也是这些人对进入欧洲和美国的中国汽车征收关税。

takeda

The advancement must be hauled, its increasing paranoia.

但凡人家有进步，就一定要被扯后腿，西方的妄想症真的是越来越严重了。

OBAFGKM

Chinese made cars are a tremendous value, especially the EVs. There is simply no way American and European car makers car compete. There will be a Chinese made EV driving around on the moon before you know it.

中国制造的汽车物超所值，尤其是电动汽车更是如此。美国和欧洲的汽车制造商根本无法与之竞争。很快，中国制造的电动汽车就会登陆月球行驶了。

Along with the initial price of EV's, there's still the valid questions pertaining to residential upgrade costs for charging, how it will impact already expensive electricity charges, and potential resale in the future of ownership.

除了电动汽车的初始价格，还有一些关于住宅区充电升级成本的问题，这会影响本就昂贵的电费，也会影响未来的二手售价。

Sensibility

Do you have a dryer? It's the same plug. I can have one installed in my garage for $400. But you can use a conventional plug the leaf comes with an adapter, but it takes twice as long.

你有烘干机吗？它们使用的插头是一样的。我可以花400美元在车库里装一个。但你也可以使用传统的插头，叶片带有适配器，但需要耗费两倍的时间。

Comrade Bernie

BYD EVs’ goal is to drive domestic EV manufacturers out of business and dominate the EV market. China's government has billions invested in this fake capitalism initiative.

比亚迪电动汽车的目标是把我们国内的电动汽车制造商挤出市场，称霸电动汽车市场。

ej207sti

they learned well from its master USA

他们这不都是跟美国学的嘛。

Thomas

The local US car dealers in my metro area ALL own foreign car dealerships here too. How much does it cost to change the body styles every year just so that the owners can claim bragging rights for owning the latest model???

我居住的市区里，美国本土汽车经销商也都有外国汽车经销权。每年更换车身样式需要花多少钱呀，车主们换个车衣就可以显摆自己拥有最新款的车。

Sensibility

Nominal minimum wage in China is $1.27 per hour. How long does it take a Chinese worker to earn $10000 at that rate? If the Chinese can't afford the product they're making and it must be sold abroad that's the definition of dum.

中国的名义最低工资是每小时1.27美元。按照这个速度，一个中国工人需要多长时间才能挣到1万美元？如果中国人自己买不起自己制造的产品，那就只能卖到国外了，这就是倾销的定义。

It won't happen. We both are member of WTO, and they have rules and regulations.

这是不可能发生的事。我们都是世贸组织的成员，他们有自己的规章制度。

Elmer

Price? Where can folks insure something parts aren't even stocked for to fix? A China warranted repair?

价格？人们上哪儿去为那些甚至都没有存货的零件投保呢？让中国来修？

Comrade Bernie

Just drive it back to the manufacturer in Being.

把车子开回北京的制造厂不就好了。

Heavywait

Chinese EVs won’t be allowed here for the same reason Huawei is banned. Cars and especially EVs collect and beam up ungodly amounts of data, and every Chinese company is legally beholden to honor any request from including collecting and sharing data.

中国电动汽车不得进入印度，原因就和华为被禁是一样的。汽车，尤其是电动汽车会收集和传输大量的数据，每家中国企业在法律上都有义务遵守自己国家的所有要求，包括收集和共享数据。

Heavywait

But if it wasn’t for that, more power to China if they can sell cars people want to buy for a much lower price.

但如果不是这样，如果中国能以更低的价格出售人们心仪的汽车，那么中国就会获得更大的权力了。

So, you think the US' goverment is going to declare Chinese EV as national security threat?

所以，你认为美国政府会宣布中国电动汽车对国家安全构成威胁吗？

Ken

Funny how everyone is terrified of the Chinese.

有趣的是，人人都怕中国人。

Biden is trying to push 100% EV. That will certainly put most US auto makers out of business. They have no advantage over Chinese EV makers since battery, parts are made in China anyway. I guess he doesn't care anyway.

拜登正在努力推动纯电动汽车。这绝对会让大多数美国汽车制造商破产。他们跟中国电动汽车制造商相比，完全没有优势，因为电动车的电池和零部件都是中国制造的。但我猜他根本不在乎。

73km/sec/MPc

Chinese cars are just too good. There is nothing you can do besides make up stories about why EVs are terrible and hope you can scare consumers.

中国汽车真的太棒了。除了编造电动汽车都是垃圾这样的故事，希望能以此吓退消费者之外，你什么事也做不了。

libertarian

Because they can. Maybe it’s export control by the government like US ?

因为他们有这个能力。可能这就是美国政府采取的出口管制？

Keith

The EU has huge tarriffs against ALL American imported cars AND huge export taxes on cars and parts from them to America.

Maybe they need to do the same to Co unist Chinese imports!

欧盟对所有从美国进口的汽车征收高额关税，并对从美国进口的汽车及其零部件征收高额出口税。

也许他们也要对中国进口商品采取同样的措施！

Sam

BYD cars are catching fires on roads, at charging station & in parking lots. I will not risk my kids life .......... No electric cars, not even tesla! I prefer Hybrid cars over electric.

他们的电动汽车在路上、在充电站、在停车场自燃。我是不会拿我孩子的生命来冒险的......我不要电动汽车，特斯拉也不行！比起电动汽车，我更喜欢混合动力汽车。

richer

The fools are actually instrumental in destroying their car industry. Whenever you put a low tier price with taxation, it gets moved into mid tier and 90% of the time consumers by instinct always pick the mid price.

这些傻瓜其实是在摧毁他们的汽车工业。不管在什么时候，如果你对一个低价商品加收税收，这个商品就会进入中等价格的区间，在90%的情况下，消费者都会本能地选择中等价格的商品。

JIM

Should compare the FOB. The foreign importers need to make money themselves.

我们应该比较离岸价格。外国进口商自己也得赚钱啊。

..selling less would be dum. They might as well make good profit instead.

少卖点也算倾销。那他们还不如赚大钱呢。

thexfile

They'll sell some at first but then reality will come in.

他们一开始能卖出去一些，但人们很快就会认清事实了。

Walt

I wonder if the junky Chinese cars come with their own fire extinguisher?

我想知道中国的垃圾车有没有配备灭火器？