The War for Chinese Talent in the United States

在美中国人才争夺战

David Zweig 崔大偉 draws on decades of research to document China’s “over-the-top” effort to gain the help of immensely talented Chinese who were living and working in the US, as well as the US government’s harsh counterattack, and its strategy to limit and disrupt the transfer of US technology to China. He offers case studies which include stories of several victims of that campaign whose cases were never made public. Zweig highlights the harm this war has done to Sino-American scientific collaboration and the education of Chinese students in America. Prof. Zweig's book on the talent war will be published this summer.

大卫·茨威格(崔大偉)经过数十年的研究，记录了中国为了获得在美国生活和工作的中国人才的帮助而付出的“过分”努力，以及美国政府的严厉反击，及其限制和破坏美国技术向中国转移的战略。他提供了一些案例研究，其中包括那场运动的几名受害者的故事，他们的案件从未公开。茨威格强调了这场战争对中美科学合作和在美中国学生造成的伤害。茨威格教授关于人才争夺战的书将于今年夏天出版。

以下是外国网友的评论：

jkdm27

Believe it or not, the Chinese in the Chinese universities may be much more innovative than Americans in American universities.   Also, the living standards and life style of major cities in China may be much better than in American cities.

信不信由你，中国大学里的中国人可能比美国大学里的美国人更有创新精神。此外，中国主要城市的生活水平和生活方式可能比美国城市好得多。

user-cb3lp1sm3f

Chinese talent is valued but not given due respect in America.

中国人才在美国受到重视，但没有得到应有的尊重。

user-ok6re8gv1q

Tell america to stop trying to do another hate campaign.  Anti-china racism means all chinese shoyld leave america yesterday!!  It is only marginally better to be in america for education these days.

告诉美国不要再搞仇恨运动了。反华种族主义意味着所有中国人将离开美国！如今在美国接受教育也好不到哪里去。

xaoyunchen8337

Cannot agree more. As an American scientist with Chinese descent, I believe the word will be much better off if USA can overcome its paranoia and embrace collaboration

作为一名华裔美国科学家，我相信如果美国能克服偏执，拥抱合作，世界将会变得更好

reynoldliao7462

China recruiting its own citizens back to China is cited as China's fault, the source of the problem? What kind of nonsense is this? The problem isn't China recruiting its own citizens. The real problem is American's lack of competitiveness when measured against China. I'll bet if the Indian government started recruiting Indians, the US wouldn't have a problem with that. Why? India is FAR from being competitive, both economically and militarily, relative to the US. Even this supposed "expert" is extremely misguided. I see ZERO hope for the West.

中国召自己的公民回国被认为是中国的错，问题的根源是什么？

这是什么歪理？问题不在于中国招募本国公民。

真正的问题是，与中国相比，美国缺乏竞争力。

我敢打赌，如果印度政府开始招募印度人回国，美国不会找麻烦的。

为什么？相对于美国，印度在经济和军事上都远没有竞争力。

就连这位所谓的“专家”也被严重误导了。我认为西方没有希望了。

shiulai5804

Answer this question--

Before America drained European talents from Europe during WWII, what was the status of science in America?

Answer.  it was dismal and far behind.

America has depended on FOREIGN TALENTS to thrive.

Not the other way around.

回答这个问题：二战期间，在美国抢走欧洲人才之前，美国的科学地位如何？答案是，远远落在后面。美国的繁荣一直依赖外国人才，反之则不然。

jeorge1153

China gave them free education, developed their foundation and talents to a certain level. They went to America for their higher studies. Without this solid foundation in math and science, these students would not have excelled in their chosen paths. It is but logical to return the favor to the mother country.

China alone has so many talents, and this exchange of ideas will be beneficial to both countries.

中国给予他们免费教育，让他们打好了基础，然后他们去美国深造。如果没有坚实的数学和科学基础，这些学生就无法在他们选择的道路上表现出色。回报祖国是合乎逻辑的。仅中国就有这么多的人才，这种思想交流对两国都有利。

sharonsoon4866

My country Malaysia lost a lot of smart and talented people especially to Singapore and western countries. Now China is sourcing Malaysian Chinese to work for them. Malaysia Chinese are very special, they are multi lingual minimum 3 languages and great inter racial skills plus being industrious.

我的国家马来西亚失去了很多聪明和有才华的人，他们去了新加坡和西方国家。现在中国正在寻找马来西亚华人为国效力。马来西亚华人非常特别，他们至少会说3种语言，有很好的跨种族交流技能，而且很勤奋。

vitriew

IN 2022 only 8% of Chinese with Ph.D in AI stay in US, compare to 2001 98%. How can you compete to China , if you can't attract more crème of the crop. Due to poor treatment and bad policy nowadays.

在2022年，只有8%拥有人工智能博士学位的中国人留在美国，而2001年这一比例为98%。如果你不能吸引更多的人才，你怎么能和中国竞争呢？都是因为现在糟糕的待遇和政策。

bobsmith3983

It seems that the main reason the USA was at the forefront of technology was due to foreign talent in R&D and Universities with most of them being of Chinese background either from the diaspora or from China.

看来美国处于技术前沿的主要原因是大学里的外国研发人才，其中大多数是中国背景，要么来自海外，要么来自中国。

mikeshen9293

China should be good, every year it produce so many talents, just matter of time to surpass US in technology!

中国每年都培养出这么多人才，在技术上超越美国只是时间问题

bluephoenix8470

The reason Chinese PHDs and others stay in the U.S. is the same reason migrants flock across the Southern border - the artificial, overvalued U.S. $. The U.S.  $ gets 40% of its value from simply being the world's reserve currency. If you are going to trade time for money, then you want to trade time for the U.S. $.

中国博士和其他人留在美国的原因和移民涌入美国南部边境的原因是一样的——人为被高估的美元。

美元40%的价值来自其作为世界储备货币的地位。如果你想用时间换金钱，那么你就是想用时间换美元。

mysterion4301

Where the change is coming is that China now has some of the best universities in the world and increasingly their best and their brightest will stay home. The talent will stay in China. Add to that the fact that you can attend a top university there for $4,500-$10,000 a year compared to $60,000 -$80,000 a year here for first tier universities.

变化的地方在于，中国现在拥有一些世界顶级大学，而且越来越多的最优秀、最聪明的人将留在国内。人才将留在中国，更重要的是，每年花4500到10000美元就能上一所顶级大学，而这里的一流大学每年要花6万到8万美元。

tomchen513

China prepares talented students for the USA. Is this fair to China?

中国为美国培养优秀学生。这对中国公平吗?

bdjohan

it was not a war, it was a witchhunt

这不是一场战争，而是一场迫害

guangxdavidliu

The current China was and is built on 2-nd tier Chinese talents. The first tier talents have gone to western countries. Imagine China had the 1-tier talent all went back to China ( 1 country with with average population IQ of 104) ???  Statistic shows 90% of QingHua undergraduate students (average IQ>>145) and 100% graduate students gone aboard after 5 year after their graduation.

中国过去和现在都是靠第二梯队人才建设的，第一梯队人才去了西方国家。想象一下，第一梯队人才都回到了中国(一个平均人口智商为104的国家)会怎么样？

据统计，清华90%的本科生(平均智商>>145)，100%的研究生在毕业5年后出国。

HTeo-og1lg

Racism is over the scale now.

Chinese Exclusion Act 2.0 is never quite eradicated.

种族主义已经泛滥了。

《排华法案2.0》从未完全根除。

huanghermann5207

There was no talent war when the US and China were not competing.

当美国和中国不竞争时，就不会有人才争夺战。

user-yw3xt3mj6w

Blah blah blah... truth is American industry is not attractive as in the 90's.

废话连篇……事实是美国工业不像90年代那样有吸引力了。

NoNameToHave

A lot have regretted going back to China, and meanwhile, a lot are planning to go back. Banning Chinese students to study in sensitive majors in the US would be a good idea. Let's see.

很多人后悔回国，同时也有很多人打算回国。禁止中国学生在美国学习敏感专业，会是一个好主意。

kin9225

United States was innovative because of Chinese scholars living in the US!

美国之所以创新，是因为中国学者留在美国生活

samahirrao

Compare the 13% who left vs 87% who stayed. Qualitative analysis.

13%的人离开，87%的人留下。

liubang9375

There are not many things the Chinese can learn from the US.

中国人可以向美国学习的东西并不多

bemmychan1518

Have you seen what and how they teach their kindergarten? Their junior secondary school kids complete at building UAVs and robotics from their own innovative talent.  If schools focus on diversity, LGBTQ and irrelevant things like that, the results speak for itself. It's a no brainer....

你见过他们幼儿园教什么，怎么教吗？

他们的初中生能用自己的创新才能制造无人机和机器人。

如果学校把重点放在多样性、LGBTQ和其他无关紧要的事情上，结果就不言自明了，这是毋庸置疑的....

tedchandran

Jai Hind.  No problem.  We Indians have an overcapacity of talents.

印度必胜，没问题，我们印度人才过剩。

mikeyrose4183

Omg Chinese are leaving.

Please dont.

天哪，中国人要走了，不要啊