为什么中国的“神舟”比俄罗斯的“联盟”号好

Why China's Shenzhou is Better Than Russia's Soyuz

为什么中国的“神舟”比俄罗斯的“联盟”号好？

China's Shenzhou spacecraft is heavily inspired from Soyuz, and there are likely systems copied directly from Soyuz. However, with the benefits of 21st century development it's not wedded to many of the limitations imposed by the Soyuz heritage.

中国的“神舟”飞船很大程度上受到了“联盟”号的启发，而且很可能有直接复制了后者的系统。然而，随着21世纪的发展，它并没有受到“联盟”号遗产所带来的许多限制。

以下是外国网友的评论：

jillkang6526

I was in primary school in Shenzhen, Guangdong when Shenzhou 5 launched, and on that day the school made all the students gather in the multimedia room (which is like a big big room with projectors and a stage and seats enough for the whole school) and cancelled all the classes for the period when the event is broadcast live on TV. That sure was a good day of no classes, but it also kinda sparked my interest in spaceflight, which I kept to this day.

“神舟五号”发射的时候，我在广东深圳上小学，那天学校让所有的学生都聚集在多媒体教室(一个很大的房间，有投影仪和舞台，有足够全校坐的座位)，并取消了所有课程。那天大家不用上课，也激发了我对太空飞行的兴趣，一直到今天。

familyplans3788

Must be amazing to have the space to safely land a new spacecraft,

Here in the U.K. the largest area we have uninhabited and empty is the trophy room at Bournemouth Football club

有空间让新飞船安全着陆，很神奇，

在英国，最大的无人居住区域是伯恩茅斯足球俱乐部的奖杯室

tsmithkc

Those orbit modules are pretty cool. You could build a little bit of a space station by just docking them up and leaving them up there after each mission.

那些轨道模块非常酷。可以建造一个类似空间站的东西，只要把它们对接在一起，每次任务结束后把它们留在那里。

Nowhereman10

Without Russia's need for cash in the 1990s, it probably would've taken at least another ten years to for China to develop something similar to Shenzhou in capability, and who knows how much longer for something like Tiangong.

如果不是俄罗斯在20世纪90年代有资金需求，中国可能还需要至少10年的时间来开发“神舟”，谁知道天宫这样的东西需要多长时间。

hanweiliu8850

I was in elementary school in 2003 and I am sure we all watched Shenzhou-5 mission live on School's television that year. The false alarm happened during EVA in Shenzhou-7 was also live on TV.

2003年我还在上小学，那年我们都在学校的电视上观看了神舟五号的现场直播。

alexpishvanov736

May be because Shenzhou is at least 40 years newer than Soyuz ))))

可能是因为神舟至少比联盟号年轻40年

RaNc0R

But I still love Soyuz, with the beautiful Korolev cross, 60 years old work horse still carrying people to the space. Time tested and reliable.

但我还是喜欢联盟号，有美丽的科罗廖夫十字，60岁的老马仍然载着人们前往太空。经过时间的考验，很可靠。

joeyp1927

China did develop much of its own technology in the Shenzhou. But to the extent that they copied or borrowed from the Russians, remember what Leonard Da Vinci, the greatest inventor of all time, once said: "What one can copy, one can do." There is an enormous amount of thought and labor that goes into copying, and the outcome is insight, know-how, and sometimes, innovation.

中国神舟系列确实开发了很多自己的技术。但就他们复制或借鉴俄罗斯人的程度而言，请记住有史以来最伟大的发明家伦纳德·达·芬奇曾经说过的话：“能复制的，就能做到。”

抄袭需要大量的思考和劳动，其结果是洞察力、技术诀窍，有时甚至是创新。

killerkip1

It's neat to see the technological and human aspect to this vs the pure political aspect. It's neat seeing what humanity can do, regardless of the political climate.

从技术和人性的角度来vs纯粹的政治角度。不管政治气候如何，人类能做到这一点，真是太棒了。

MoritzvonSchweinitz

Such a pity that we can't all just get along in space, and cooperate. It's impressive what China managed to build up rather quickly. Imagine that, but with international cooperation!

遗憾的是，我们不能在太空中和睦相处，合作。令人印象深刻的是，中国的建设速度如此之快。想象一下，如果国际合作的话，成果会如何

repatch43

Several years ago I was in Shanghai for business and being the geek I am visited the science center. They had a massive display about the Chinese space program. I was embarrassed in how little I knew about what their program had accomplished, it was quite impressive.

几年前，我在上海出差，作为一个极客，我参观了科学中心。他们有一个关于中国太空计划的大型展览。我很尴尬，我对他们的项目所取得的成就知之甚少，但确实令人印象深刻。

TheDesktopOrbinaut

Also interesting to note that the taikonauts that flew on Shenzhou 6 and 7 became one of the first commanders of the Tiangong Space Station over 14 years later

同样有趣的是，在神舟6号和7号上飞行的宇航员在14年后成为天宫空间站的第一批指挥官

Conundrum191

Great video...to be honest I always assumed that Shenzhou was just a repurposed Soyuz design, and not it's own thing. Interesting to see while they are similar, one is actually not like the other.

说实话，我一直认为神舟只是联盟号的改版设计，而不是自主设计的。有趣的是，虽然它们很相似，但实际上不一样。

trevortaylor5501

Pretty sure the angara 5 is being prepared for human flight with a new Orel capsule being incorporated. The have pretty ambitious plans over the next 5 years.

可以肯定的是，安加拉5号正在为载人飞行做准备，配备了一个新的奥廖尔太空舱。俄罗斯在未来5年有非常雄心勃勃的计划。

quattrocity9620

If it hadn't been for China's Shenzhou, I'd have been married a long time ago.

如果不是因为中国的神舟，我早就结婚了。

SF7PAKISTAN

"Better not to piss in diaper, baby doesn't like it, neither does an adult" has to be one of the best lines ever spoken about human space exploration

“最好不要尿在尿布上，婴儿不喜欢，成年人也不喜欢”，这是有史以来关于人类太空探索的最佳台词之一

egstrong

At least one source mentioned that the first docking attempt with Shenzhou resulted in it bouncing off the target vehicle. APAS was designed for a much larger spacecraft and wasn’t really suitable for something as small as a Shenzhou. After a few tries, they were able to successfully dock after backing up and getting up to ramming speed and get enough force to allow a solid docking.

至少有一个消息来源提到，与神舟的第一次对接尝试导致它与目标飞行器弹开。APAS是为更大的航天器设计的，并不适合像神舟这样小的飞船。经过几次尝试后，他们成功地对接了，在恢复到撞击速度后，获得了足够的力量来实现稳固的对接。

jamest18

It's very unfortunate the three biggest players in space flight have never truly gotten along. Imagine what we could have seen with the US and Soviet Union working together in the 60s and now what the US, Russia, and China could do if we all got along. What a world that would be.

非常不幸的是，太空飞行领域的三大玩家从未真正和睦相处。想象一下，如果美国和苏联在60年代合作，我们会看到什么？如果现在美国、俄罗斯和中国都能和睦相处，能实现什么？那将是一个怎样的世界？

MoonWeasel23

I still love that the Chinese used freaking wood for their heat shields. Meanwhile on Orion…

我还是喜欢中国人用木头做隔热板。

gabrielandrade4469

Btw, the soyuz was originally designed with a cylindrical orbital module.

顺便说一句，联盟号最初设计的是圆柱形轨道舱。

KVP424

Single stick version of Long March 10 apparently will have it maiden flight in 2025 or 2026. So I assume they plan to test Mengzhou again when that rocket is ready.

长征10号将在2025年或2026年首飞。所以我猜他们计划在火箭准备好后再次测试梦舟号。

soldiersvejk2053

Those names were the first generation Chinese astronauts. Most of them managed to fly crewed missions in the later years.

提到的这些名字是中国第一代宇航员。他们中的大多数人在后来的几年里成功地执行了载人飞行任务。

gabrielandrade4469

I think the Soyuz detaches the service module before detaching the orbital module, for safety. While Shenzou does not, apparently to let the orbital module work as a satellite in orbit. I hope they fixed whatever issue the Soyuz has.

为了安全起见，联盟号在分离轨道舱之前会先分离服务舱，而神舟号没有，显然是为了让轨道舱在轨道上作为卫星工作。我希望他们能解决联盟号的所有问题。

NOLNV1

If it ends up with a record like Soyuz I will be thrilled, those old tubes have been sent up countless times

如果它最终能像联盟号那样创下记录，我会很激动的，已经发射无数次了

karlbrundage7472

Everything's easy when other engineers have already designed and built it.

当其他工程师已经设计并制造出来时，做起来就很容易了。

randbarrett8706

Whatever else you want to say about PRC, they’re able to commit to projects in a way that is not possible in USA

不管你想说中国什么，他们能够以一种在美国不可能的方式开发项目

deanzaZZR

It's a great achievement for China. Wishing continued safe flying going forward.

这对中国来说是一个伟大的成就。祝继续安全飞行。

ardag1439

Could the orbit module, on paper, by itself, support humans without the service and descent modules? Or does life support depend entirely on the presence of the service module?

从理论上讲，轨道舱本身能在没有服务舱和下降舱的情况下支持人类吗？还是生命支持完全取决于服务舱的存在?

8600GTX

Yang Liwei scar is cause by microphone during landing.

杨利伟的伤疤是着陆时麦克风撞的。

Cdodders27

Tiangong also is very reminiscent of Mir

“天宫”也不禁让人想起“和平号”