随时毁台？阿斯麦称可远程瘫痪台积电光刻机

The world's top chipmakers can flip a 'kill switch' should China invade Taiwan, Bloomberg reports

彭博社称如果中国武统台湾，世界顶级芯片制造商可以马上封杀中国

Two of the world's most important chip companies can flip a "kill switch" remotely on their most advanced chipmaking machines should China invade Taiwan, Bloomberg reported on Tuesday, citing people familiar with the matter.

彭博社周二援引知情人士的话报道，如果中国武统台湾，全球两家最重要的芯片公司有能力在其最先进的芯片制造机器上远程封杀中国。

The Netherlands' ASML — Europe's top tech company by market value — supplies advanced machines to chipmaking companies. They include Taiwan's TSMC, which produces, by some estimates, 90% of the world's most advanced processor chips.

荷兰的阿斯麦 - 欧洲市值最高的科技公司-为芯片制造公司供应先进的机器，其中也包含台湾的台积电，据估计，全球90%最先进的处理器芯片都产自台积电。

The news of a forced shutdown, or a "kill switch," on ASML's chipmaking gear comes amid intensifying rivalry between Washington and Beiing and mounting concerns over a potential Chinese invasion of Taiwan, which Beiing claims as its own territory.

在美中竞争不断升级，人们愈发担心中国可能武统台湾之际—台湾是中国领土—阿斯麦芯片制造设备放出了强制关闭或”封杀”的消息。

Taiwan is the world's epicenter for semiconductor chips, the ubiquitous parts that are used in products from data centers to smartphones. A war in the region would have major consequences for the global economy.

台湾地区是全球半导体芯片的中心，从数据中心到智能手机，半导体芯片在各种产品中无处不在。台海地区若发生战争，将对全球经济产生重大影响。

以下是雅虎网友的评论：

Andreas

I am in the PCB industry, and I can tell you that these machines are high maintenance. IF one of these machines is not correctly maintained and supported by the manufacturer it will cease to function within a few weeks. Without Spare Parts and high tech support from the manufacturer these building size machines are worth very little.

我是印刷电路板行业的，我可以告诉你，这些机器的维护成本非常高。如果机器无法得到妥善的维护和制造商的支持，几周内就罢工了。如果没有制造商的备件和科技支持，这些体型庞大的机器根本一文不值。

velma

The Shy-Knees' want to copy the technology, and violate the patents.

Why trade with them in the first place?

Your SENATORS are 'in on the middleman profit structure'.

这些人只想着复制技术，侵犯专利权。

为什么我们要和他们交易呢？

你们那些参议员正是“中间商利润分成的一员”。

Nick

Who needs spare parts when they probably have it pre-wired with explosives should the need arise, just like they did with bridges in Switzerland in WWII as well as bridges elsewhere in Europe during the Cold War.

如果有必要，他们可能早早就安装好了炸药，谁还需要备件哦，这就跟二战期间瑞士的桥梁和冷战期间欧洲其他地方的桥梁一样。

Mike

Not to mention the high purity chemicals needed for etching, washing, PVD, CVD, copper interconnects, etc.

更不用说蚀刻、洗涤、真空镀膜、电容分压、铜制连接器等需要用到的高纯度化学品了。

Phillip

If we're producing the machines that make these chips, why don't we operate the machines ourselves instead of selling them off to Taiwan and other places?

如果我们可以生产制造这些芯片的机器，为什么我们不自己操作这些机器呢，为什要把它们卖给台湾和其他地区？

It takes humans with niche skills to properly operate those complex machines.

只有具备专业技能的人才能正确操作这些复杂的机器。

wwu

It is a business. You sell to people who buy them to make products. We are not the only country who operate fabs. In fact our country is way behind in advanced node fab. On top of that all these fab machines are a system integration of parts and modules made in various countries. For example, ASML's litho machines use lens made by German company Zeiss.

这是一门生意。你把机器卖给那些买设备制造产品的人。我们不是唯一一个做晶圆生意的国家。事实上，我国在高级晶圆厂方面是远远落后的。除此之外，所有这些晶圆设备是用不同国家制造的零部件和模块进行系统集成的。例如，阿斯麦的光刻机使用的镜头就是德国蔡司公司生产的。

SheaK

We do. Others do too. It is not either/or.

我们这么做。其他人也这么做。不是非此即彼的关系。

Simo

We do operate them, ASML also sells to Taiwan and China. It is just business.

我们自己有运营，阿斯麦也向台湾地区和中国大陆出口设备。这只是生意行为。

Any kind of software shutdown can be effectively fixed and hacked . . .they would need to physically smash, blow up or burn the highly sensitive machines and a permanent embargo on the technology or future sales. China would still likely find a way to steal or buy what it needed on the black market as they often do.

任何类型的软件服务器关停，都是可以解决侵入的…他们需要物理损毁、炸毁或烧毁这些高度敏感的机器，并永久封禁这项技术或未来的销售。但中国还是有可能找到办法的，他们经常干这种事，他们会在黑市上窃取或购买所需的一切。

Well,....they would have bought it by now if that was the case

好吧…如果是那样的话，他们现在早就买到手了

They were buying until the west finally started restricting sales for many technologies that could be adapted for military purposes!

他们一直在购买，所以西方最后只能开始限制许多可用于军事用途的技术的出售了！

Simo

To be fair, Military hardware hardly need 7nm techs, most weapons operates on much older chips that China can easily produce.

The sanction was to slow down China's AI ambition.

AI threat is real and is a winner takes all race.

公平点说，军事硬件几乎用不到7纳米技术，大多数武器使用的都是很早的芯片了，中国可以轻松生产出来。

这项制裁是为了打压中国的人工智能野心。

人工智能的威胁是真实存在的，赢家通吃。

Edward B

untrue...The right solution is what they did which will probably just clobber all data on the system disk drives remotely.

不对…正确的解决方案就是他们之前采取的做法，这可能只会远程破坏系统磁盘驱动器上的所有数据。

Taylor

Just shows us that your knowledge on software shutdown on a chip is on level 1.

这说明你对芯片进行软件封杀的了解太少了。

Low tech works well too . . Just ask Hillary Clinton if hammers work. You can do both use tech software and smash them up as well.

低端技术也可以非常有效。问问希拉里·克林顿，锤子是不是也很有用？你既可以使用高科技软件，也可以一把砸碎它们。

When equipment absolutely positively have to be destroyed, nothing beats an abundance of C4.

如果我们必须销毁设备，那么多用点C4炸药效果就很无敌了。

Taiwan has it covered with it's 50+ destroyers, frigates, missile boats, and a few hundred combat aircraft. And the U.S. to back them up.

台军拥有50多艘驱逐舰、护卫舰、导弹艇和数百架战斗机。还有美国在身后支持他们。

Edward B

Absolutely - much better solution. A magnet would probably work too.

当然，我有一个更好的解决方案。磁铁可能也很好用。

Frederick Ho

Now that they have glide kits that are attached to the 500, 1000 and 2000 pound bombs, even a F-15 can be loaded with 4x 1000 pound glide bombs that will destroy the facility and deny China the tech they want to steal and strangle the rest of the world.

现在他们有了可以附在500磅、1000磅和2000磅炸弹上的滑翔装置，即便是F-15也可以装载4枚1000磅滑翔炸弹，可以摧毁设施，阻止中国窃取世界其他地区的技术。

The “media” sounded like China mainly wants to get the chip factory. Either the author is ignorant about Chinese history or tries to mislead the readers. Either way, it’s today’s “media” serving a political purpose.

“媒体”似乎想说中国想要获得芯片工厂。但作者要么是对中国历史一无所知，要么是想要误导读者。看吧，这都是为政治目的服务的“媒体”。

Hearty

No - its the "media" being in the impossible spot of needing to inform a very ignorant public about highly technical matters that have global implications, and do it overnight. Media folks are not stupid, but they're in the business of purveying information about matters they've never formally studied.

不，是“媒体”的立场不对，“媒体”必须跟无知的公众介绍具有全球影响力的高端科技问题。媒体人并不愚蠢，但他们披露的是他们从未正式核实过的信息。

You mean all the American, European, and other countries tech have hidden technology in them?! Wow, who didn't already know that?!

你是说所有美国、欧洲和其他国家的技术都有绝密技术吗？！哇，但还有谁不知道呢？

YuanShen

There are always backdoors in them. You don't think the Chinese have already known many of them? given how many Chinese engineers in China and all over the world.

他们都有程序后门的好嘛。你难道不觉得中国人已经搞清楚很多东西了吗？想想中国的工程师数量和世界各国的工程师数量的对比吧。

Johnny Doe

It was SOP for my electrical engineering teams since the 80s.

I'm retired now.

这是自80年代开始电气工程团队的标准作业程序。

我现在都已经退休了。

Kain967

But never been printed on manuals or customer disclosure. is that correct?

Your company may be subject to huge lawsuits.

但从未印在操作手册或客户告知书上。对吧？

你的公司可能会面临无数诉讼。

Larry