新一代的054C护卫舰？中国国产“综合试验平台”下水，外表近似“维斯比”

China's Radical Stealth Ship Showcases New Technology

中国隐形舰展示新技术

China experimental naval ship has started sea trials. We discuss all the interesting devices found onboard, which are new to the Chinese Navy.

中国海军实验舰已经开始海试。我们讨论在舰上发现的所有有趣的设备，这些设备对中国海军来说都是新的。

从外形上看，这艘船有一门隐形主炮，一门30毫米口径的火炮，主桅是 X+ S双波段雷达，配有鹰击83，尾部有一个HQ10，尾部没有机库，但占地面积很大，可以停放一架直升机。整个外形与瑞典“维斯比”护卫舰十分相似，结构紧凑

从名字上来看，这艘船并不是一艘外贸船，而是一艘新一代的054C护卫舰。

以下是外国网友的评论：

phils4634

With China's massive investment in robotics, I wonder how long it will be before we see at least partial robotic assembly in their shipyards? A potential future where high quality, absolutely reproducible ship is churned out with the same ease (and speed) of commercial trucks and buses?

随着中国在机器人技术方面大量投资，我想知道要过多久能在他们的造船厂看到至少部分自动生产线？在未来，高质量、绝对可复制的船舰，可以像商业卡车和公共汽车一样轻松快速地批量生产？

francescozambaldi8212

I'm not expert in naval warfare but this is a really good looking warship. Bravo China

我不是海战专家，但这是艘军舰非常好看。为中国喝彩！

redblueyankee8343

What a good design I hope Vietnam can buy it to replace our current old Petyas.

多好的设计啊，我希望越南能买来取代我们现在老旧的“佩蒂亚”。

Excalabur50

From what I could see in one of the photos you showed of the wake of the ship you can see the exhaust out the back of the mast area, so it doesn't look like it has a water level exhaust, which stands to reason why the mast is blackened.

从你展示的一张尾迹的照片中我可以看到排气从桅杆区域的后面排出，所以看起来不像水位排气，这就是桅杆被熏黑的原因。

he-man168

wow! it,s so smooth

哇，太漂亮了

shengzhong2662

试验舰，用来测试各种子系统、新技术

multipolarworldorder

This may be a new corvette to replaced the 56B corvette which has no VLS.

可能是一艘新的轻型护卫舰，取代没有垂直起降系统的056B轻型护卫舰。

fatdoi003

this maybe the next gen design for all types of warships.... all they need is stretch the boat out and wider....

这可能是所有类型战舰的下一代设计，他们所需要做的就是把船体做得更长更宽。

jogo798

Why not use Integrated Propulsion System instead of Combined Gas and Diesel Propulsion ?

为什么不用综合推进系统代替燃气和柴油联合推进系统?

cabasadefogo9533

What a beautiful design. Meanwhile US navy DDGX not scheduled til 2032. The new billion dollar frigate Constitution class based on exsting FRAMM design from Italy has been delayed due to faulty design changes per Business Insider. Yes you heard correct, they are so incompetent that they tried to change the exsting FRAMM design, but instead of finishing the changes before building starts. They started building thinking they can fit the design changes while ship is constructing. LOLOL vs PLAN building experimental ships to test design then fully implementing them.

多漂亮的设计啊。与此同时，美国海军DDGX计划要到2032年才会推出。

据《商业内幕》报道，新的价值10亿美元的宪法级护卫舰基于意大利现有的FRAMM设计，由于设计更改出错而被推迟。

是的，你没听错，他们太无能了，他们试图改变现有的FRAMM设计，而不是在开始建造之前完成更改。

开始建造时，以为他们可以边造边改设计。相比之下，中国海军建造实验舰来测试设计，然后全面开始建造。

Tanubtanu

Look like a testing ship to test out Visby-class's radar characteristics, but the idea of a stealth ship along with carrier battlegroup seems dumb unless they are working on a stealth version of Type 22 missile boat which makes more sense.

看起来像是一艘测试舰，检验雷达特性是否能比得上维斯比级的，但是隐形舰和航母战斗群的想法似乎很愚蠢。除非他们正在研究22型导弹艇的隐形版本，这更有意义。

Galileo1491

A masterpiece of the proletariat

工人阶级的杰作

ragabara1031

Reading through other comments, I think this needs to be said:

1. This Chinese ship is a proof of concept

2. The visual characteristics being discussed may only be one major differentiator for the project stakeholders

3. The covered concepts don't need to be restricted to the technological domain. They can be of a wide range: economic, industrial, fiscal, manpower, combat, etc. on the tactical, operational, and strategic levels.

We don't know the priorities of this project, so there's no point in dismissing it based on surface-level information. All we know is that the Chinese have decided that the concepts being incorporated into the ship are worthy enough to be proven.

看完其他评论，我认为有必要说两句：

1. 这艘中国军舰是一个概念验证

2. 所讨论的视觉特征可能只是一个主要区别

3. 所涵盖的概念不需要局限于技术领域。它们的范围很广：经济、工业、财政、人力、战斗等，战术、作战和战略层面。

我们不知道这个项目的优先级，所以没有必要根据表面信息来否定它。我们所知道的是，中国人已经决定将概念纳入到舰上，这是值得被证明的。

brendanmeyler1641

Resembles design traits of the zumwalt. Stealth of surface vessels is only advantageous under certain conditions.

类似于朱姆沃尔特的设计。水面舰艇隐身只有在一定条件下才有优势。

stevek4813

The raised deck for the VLS would also reduce the firing arc of the bow gun

垂直起降系统的升高甲板也会减少舰首炮的射弧

patrickrain1914

Chinese navy: lol.My new toy

中国海军：哈哈，看看我的新玩具

douginorlando6260

So instead of a radar reflection the size of a ship, its reflection is only the size of a bus or a car? Or even a refrigerator? I don’t get the idea behind stealth for huge ships … once in line of sight of radar, how can it hide? Even if it reduces reflection by 99.9% it’s still big

所以军舰的雷达反射截面没那么大，只有一辆公共汽车或一辆小汽车那么大？甚至就冰箱那么大？我不明白巨舰隐形背后的想法，一旦进入雷达视线，它怎么能隐藏起来？即使它减少了99.9%的反射，它仍然很大。

arthurchen8162

I just guess that this new beautiful ship is for stealth function test.

我猜这艘靓舰是用来测试隐形功能的。

multipolarworldorder

Do away with the front Gun and extend the raised platform so the number of VLS cells can be increased to 48 at least. Make sure there is a towed sonar array and dip sonar as well.

取消前炮，拉长升高的平台，这样VLS单元的数量可以增加到至少48个，确保有拖曳声纳阵列和吊放声纳。

SenorBastardo1348

I wonder if the emphasis on stealth in the satellite age doesn't potentially indicate that the Chinese are confident they can eliminate satellite coverage?

我想知道，在卫星时代，强调隐身功能是否潜在地表明中国人有信心他们可以规避卫星扫描？

6haha

It is just a test unit

这只是测试舰

drandersjiang

022 Corvette replacement?

替换022轻型巡洋舰?

lancewood1410

The west always thinks they know more than even the manufacturer. I'll call it whatever i want because i made it :)

西方总是认为他们甚至比制造商知道得更多。我想叫什么就叫什么，因为是我做的。

wlyiu4057

We are only half way through 2024.

2024年才过了一半。

Absolut531kmh

The stealth turret looks like it would potentially be a Electromagnetic Ammunition turret, which the PLA is running tests with it as we speak.

隐形炮塔可能是电磁弹药炮塔，PLA正在测试。

honfmeilingfleet957

now i am waiting this Ship added to Modern Warships game

坐等这艘军舰加入现代战舰游戏

hcjet

Simulation of stealth target identification and attack tactical experimental platform

模拟针对隐身目标的识别，攻击战术实验平台而已

commodorce6431

Elongated Visby class

加长版维斯比级

Zerpentsa6598

Was it built to sell tofu around the SCS?

用来在南海附近卖豆腐的吗？

mikevoltamp6146

Tufu-Dreg for sure, experimental or not.

不管是不是实验舰，都是豆腐渣

jon_nomad

Look absolutely like the Swedish "Visby" Class corvette.

太像瑞典“维斯比”级护卫舰了。

verypleasantguy

It's a decoy ！

这是一个诱饵

nmc052able

Its a Visby class copy

维斯比级的复制品

Hellfox777

LMAO "New Technology"

“新技术”，笑死了

Jakery1057

You know it's a copy of something, they don't innovate and make anything original.

都知道这是山寨，他们不创新，没有原创。

kemvillarico18

Copy by sweden corvette

No own design

瑞典护卫舰的复制品，不是自己的设计

user-xw5fs3ye2w

China's radar is very good, I hope to make this ship into an unmanned boat to cruise autonomously in the Pacific Ocean to do electronic reconnaissance and have anti-aircraft interception anti-ship strike

中国的雷达非常优异，我希望把这个舰艇做成无人艇自动巡航在太平洋做电子侦查并且有防空拦截反舰打击

hengzhou4566

Without war, it is a piece of scrap metal.

不打战，就是一坨废铁。