没有中国STEM学生，美国还能生存吗

Can America Survive Without Chinese STEM Students?

没有中国STEM学生，美国还能生存吗？

以下是外国网友的评论：

AliasHSW

Forget mainland parents — even ABC parents don’t want to pay $75k/yr for their kids to study humanities .

别说大陆的父母了，即使是ABC父母也不想每年花7.5万美元让他们的孩子学人文学科。

ChicagoTurtle1

Strange thing is, Modi is just as close friends with Putin, as X is. Also, India was a founding member of BRICS, like as China was. The only significant difference is that China’s policies have led the economy and technology to levels that surpass even America in key areas. Maybe we should learn from them.

莫迪和普京密友，印度也是金砖国家的创始成员，和中国一样。

唯一显著的区别是，中国的政策推动经济和技术水平在关键领域甚至超过了美国。也许我们应该向他们学习。

joeyp1927

According to Justia, the legal website, an Asian inventor is listed on three quarters of patents filed by Qualcomm and two-thirds of the patents filed by Intel and Nvidia. Most of these Asian inventors are Chinese, just by the sheer numbers of them in hardware engineering. The head of Intel's famed Pentium program for many years was Chinese; An Wang built a billion-dollar personal computer company long before Steve Jobs or Bill Gates. People have no idea how important Chinese Americans have been to the computer and tech industry in the US.

据法律网站Justia称，高通申请的专利中有四分之三是亚洲人，英特尔和英伟达申请的专利中有三分之二是亚洲人。

从硬件工程的数量来看，这些亚洲发明家大多是中国人。

多年来，英特尔著名的奔腾(Pentium)项目的负责人是中国人

早在史蒂夫•乔布斯和比尔•盖茨之前，王安就建立了一家价值10亿美元的个人电脑公司。

人们不知道华裔美国人对美国的计算机和科技行业有多重要。

TheFlagUnit

this is not an issue to tip toe around. this is pure racism

不用回避，这纯粹是种族歧视

newbielives

"The STEM is the just NBA for Chinese people" LMAO

“STEM就是中国人的NBA”，哈哈

Stephen-we6do

The US wants it's cake and to eat it too. They want Chinese and other international students to come to the US and pay 2x tuition but they don't want them to get a degree that is useful in their respective country. The humanities and social studies degrees are very valuable but they are not as valuable if it comes from another country. Why go to the US for a humanities degree when a humanities degree in China is more relevant and useful?

美国既要又要还要。他们希望中国和其他国际学生来美国留学，支付两倍的学费，但他们不希望这些外国留学生获得对他们祖国有用的学位。

人文和社会研究学位非常有价值，但如果对于另一个国家，就没那么有价值了。

既然在中国读人文学科学位更相关、更有用，为什么要去美国读人文学科学位?

JBear-in1ql

Although there is always new things to learn, assuming a mass migration of students from a 5000 year old civilization coming over to learn humanities and social science from our country less than a few centuries old does not make sense.

尽管总是有新的东西要学习，但来自有5000年文明历史国家的学生，到我们这个只有不到几个世纪历史的国家学习人文和社会科学，这是没有意义的。

vigneshgvgopalakrishnan4546

Im indian living in india,What I like about chinese students is after they completed their studies they go back to their country and make China infrastructure great and make china rich, but most of Indian students come to u.s for study settle there and focusing on becoming rich

我是一个生活在印度的印度人，我喜欢中国学生的一点是，他们完成学业后回到自己的国家，建设国内的基础设施，建设繁荣富强的国家。而大多数印度学生在美国留学后，就定居在那里，一心让自己富起来

valorzinski7423

A real Asian wouldn't pay $100k per year to study social justice or African American studies

一个真正的亚洲人不会每年花10万美元去学习社会正义或非裔美国人研究

mrzack888

Chinese students end up facing glass ceiling after creating inventions in YT america

中国学生在美国创造发明后，最终面临天花板

destinationskyline07

Why the fuk would anyone wanna study the federalist papers?

谁想来研究联邦党人的论文?

tonyyin8524

China is now ahead of US and all other Western countries in nearly every STEM field, so it's not Washington but Beiing who will benefit from neocons barring Chinese students from studying STEM in US universities.

中国现在几乎在每个STEM领域都领先于美国和其他西方国家，所以新保守主义者禁止中国学生在美国大学学习STEM专业，从中受益的不是华盛顿，而是北京。

pbworld7858

America now telling what Chinese should or shouldn't study.

And why the heck should people learn Shakespeare from America? Was he American?

美国现在告诉中国人应该或不应该学什么。为什么人们要去美国学习莎士比亚？他是美国人吗?

sunnys2864

More US students are studying gender science now, so they can able to recognize the correct pronouns.

现在越来越多的美国学生正在学习性别科学，这样他们就能识别正确的人称代词。

JD-yz4kr

If any student want to study Shakespeare, they will go to the UK. If Chinese students want to study Humanities, what's the point of coming to America if they can study Confucius, Mencius at the source?

如果学生想学莎士比亚，他们会去英国。如果中国学生想学人文学科，他们可以学习孔子和孟子，那么来美国有什么意义呢？

americanknow8232

I need clarification. The US has yet to get the latest technology. China has the most advanced technologies now. Chinese students going to the US these days are second-tier students. The top students stay in China.

我要澄清一下。美国还没有掌握最新的技术。中国现在拥有最先进的技术。现在去美国的中国学生都是二流学生，优等生留在中国。

user-ox3jb2zj8k

Native-born Americans largely avoid studying STEM because the education and training required is far too long. Assuming no gap time to work or "find yourself", a STEM student spends 4 years as an undergraduate to get the BS, 5-6 years as a graduate student to get the PhD, and anywhere from 3-6 years as a post-doc. The STEM student is 30-34 years old before considered sufficiently trained to be employable by industry or academia. None of the (low) salaries earned as a grad student or post-doc are taxable by the Social Security Administration, which significantly reduces the amount of Social Security pension the STEM student will receive upon retirement. Besides that, the very long education/training period means a STEM student loses many years of prime earning potential, employment, and business opportunities compared to those specializing in other majors. Not surprisingly, most native-born American students choose to "skip STEM".

本土出生的美国人大多不选择学STEM，所需的学习和培训时间太长了。

假设一切顺利，一个STEM学生需要4年的本科时间才能获得学士学位，5-6年的硕士时间才能获得博士学位，3-6年的博士后时间。

STEM学生年龄在30-34岁时，才被认为受过足够的培训，可以被工业界或学术界雇用。

作为研究生或博士后，赚取的工资低，都不需要向社会保障局纳税，这大大减少了STEM学生退休后获得的社会保障养老金。

除此之外，与其他专业的学生相比，旷日持久的学习/培训期，意味着STEM学生失去了多年的主要收入、就业和商业机会。

大多数本土出生的美国学生选择“跳过STEM”，这一点也不奇怪。

briandong5293

I'm going to say looking up the data most Chinese students no longer want to stay here. It's not 2008 anymore.

查阅数据，大多数中国学生不再想留在这里。现在已经不是2008年了。

elaineder8914

Back in the ‘80’s, most Chinese & Chinese-American undergraduate students were business, pharmacy & accounting majors.

在80年代，大多数中国和华裔美国本科生都学商科、药学和会计专业。

user-vk5kj4dy9t

chinese parents wont even pay for humanties degree. lol they all about money building and big money potential

中国父母也不愿花钱让孩子去学人文学科学位。哈哈，他们都想培养孩子赚钱的潜力

user-yw4rx6kb3r

The professors of stem in these universities are all from Asia.

这些大学的stem科的教授都来自亚洲。

mchammer3927

Studying Humanities from a country that has been at war/conflicts for 222 years out of 239 years ..HUMM

Has over 800 military bases all over the world

Maybe just said your racist makes more sense

Side note : The us have only been at peace for less than 20 years total since its birth

在一个建国239年有222年在外面打仗的国家学习人文学科？

他们在全世界有800多个军事基地

也许他们的种族歧视更有意义？

美国自诞生以来总共只有不到20年的和平时期

SoCal760

We really want and need those tuitions that our colleges depend on, but they just can’t learn anything useful

我们大学真的想要他们的学费，但是他们却学不到任何有用的东西

pimaxuma

India has ties to Russia. Why ban only Chinese students? If intellectual tech security is a concern, then they should ban both Chinese and Indian students from STEM studies. This is just a case of racism by conservatives. Instead of blocking Chinese STEM students, simply entice them to stay in the US. Their lives would be better than back in China. That would easily stop any intellectual tech transfer to the china.

印度也与俄罗斯关系好。为什么只禁止中国学生？

如果知识技术安全是一个问题，那么他们应该禁止中国和印度学生学习STEM。

这是保守派的种族主义做法。与其阻止中国的学生学习STEM，不如直接吸引他们留在美国。他们的生活会比回到中国好。此举可以阻止技术流向中国

Django19

The humanities and social sciences here will have a strong Western bias, teaching us to see the world from a Western lens. It's hard to discriminate against math. STEM also makes a strong industry in any nation.

这里的人文和社会科学会抱着强烈的西方偏见，教我们从西方的视角看世界。数学不会这样，STEM在任何国家都是一个强大的产业。

BookofJob3XVII

And once India became a threat to US hegemony, India students will be restricted as well.

一旦印度成为美国霸权的威胁，印度学生也会受到限制。

emilyblade9676

So he still wants the Chinese student money and at the same time teach ideology, I mean 'Humanities' for these students to take back to China.

所以他仍然想要中国学生的钱，同时教授意识形态（“人文”），让这些学生带回中国。

33hunting

The Chinese international students just want to study and then settle down in America. They don't have to study STEM. They could study other courses like business and finance, medicine and engineering.

中国留学生只是想在美国学习，然后定居下来。他们不需要学习STEM，他们可以学习其他课程，如商业和金融、医学和工程。

TOm-hr2mb

This is prejudice. Sue that punk.

这是歧视，去告他们。