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中国076型航母即将完工,意想不到的改进

 China's Type 076 Carrier is Nearly Complete - With Unexpected Changes

中国076型航母即将完工:意想不到的改进

The Chinese Navy's next carrier the Type 076 LHD is in the final stages of construction at the Hudong-Zhonghua Shipyard.

中国海军的下一艘航母076型LHD正在沪东中华造船厂建造,即将完工。

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以下是外国网友的评论:

watb8689

this is a ucav centric carrier, and serve mainly near china sea. it can return to port anytime. China is also focusing on nuclear reactor at the moment, future carrier for distance operation will be nuclear powered

这是一艘以无人机为中心的航母,主要会部署在中国海域附近,可以随时返回港口。中国目前也在研发核反应堆,未来的远程航母会是核动力的

 

cheekeongchan6605

The type 076 can provide fixed wing attack & recon capability with UCAV when operating with warship groups.

076型在与军舰群一起操作时可以提供固定翼攻击和侦察能力。

 

vincentdesun

Even longer than the one in Fujian. This ship looks to be just as capable as Fujian when it comes to launch heavy aircrafts if not more.

比福建舰还长。在起降重型飞机方面,这艘和福建舰比起来,即便没有更强大,也是一样强

 

johnsmith1953x

The 07x series was only meant for helos and amphibs, now the US/UK will have to take into account planes being launched from the 076 into their analysis. Makes things more complicated now.

07X系列只适用于直升机和两栖飞机,现在美国和英国不得不对从076弹射的飞机进行分析。现在事情变得更复杂了。

 

CC-ns2ds

Man I was so ho for the 076 having an angled flight deck, would’ve looked so cool and unique.

我真希望076有一个倾斜的飞行甲板,看起来会很酷,很独特。

 

yeungtsang8761

Wow, the shipyard is very busy. I can see that another 3 more smaller warships are being built at the same time near to the 076. Could they be 052D or 055(B)?

哇,造船厂很忙。076旁边有另外3艘更小的战舰正在建造,是052D还是055(B)?

 

douginorlando6260

How many drones and helicopters can be carried by the 76? And what mix for different missions (the 2 missions I see are 1st… providing continuous patrol UAV aircraft to 1000+ km and in sufficient numbers to be present & defend everywhere within a few hundred km;  2nd… amphibious landing with more helicopters, marines, amphibious landing craft, and smaller drones in swarming numbers).

076可以搭载多少架无人机和直升机?我看到的两个任务,一个是持续巡逻1000公里以上的无人机,几百公里范围内的任何地方部署和防御;第二,两栖登陆,更多的直升机、海军陆战队员、两栖登陆艇和小型无人机

 

Kukura001

Approxmately when will the ship be ready for launching?

大概什么时候可以下水?

 

ziqiangyuan234

The significance of the angled deck is that if the aircraft fails to catch the arresting cable, it can directly take off. If the success rate of AI-controlled drones landing on aircraft carriers is very high, does it mean that the absence of an angled deck will not affect the take-off and landing of fighter jets at the same time?

倾斜甲板的意义在于,如果飞机未能抓住拦阻索,它可以直接起飞。如果无人机在航母上降落的成功率很高,是否意味着没有倾斜甲板,不会影响战斗机同时起降?

 

vlhc4642

- UCAV endurance is much longer than manned aircraft so same sortie rate could be generated with less catapults.

- UCAV are relatively more expendable than manned aircraft

- Who says there will only be one Type 076 and they'll only operate alone?

无人机的续航时间比有人驾驶战机长得多,相对而言,无人机比有人机更可耐操

谁说只会有一艘076型

 

randomwalk5095

 oh yeah! no need for aircrafts only helycopters to unload safely and quickly the marines type 76 design is amphibious, mainland will offer aircover

不需要舰载机,直升机就可以安全快速起飞。076型设计是两栖的,大陆起飞的战机能提供空中掩护

 

honfmeilingfleet957

Type 076 Desind is very different from Modern Warships

076型设计与现代战舰非常不同

rubiconklbrutorowman7577

I am guessing type 76 will have at least 6 or 7 or 10 match with US amphioxus 10 ships.

我猜076型将至少有6艘或7艘或10艘,与美国航母对抗。

 

moss550

People are putting too much emphasis on the necessity of catapults for fix wing operations. They forgot aircraft carriers fought the entire WW2 without catapults.

Whilst morden manned fixed wing jets are heavy and requires with a ski jump or catapults launch, morden drones are extremely light and many are prop driven.

If the high end missions are taken care by fleet carriers, then 076 would be free to fly mass number of low end expendible UCAV like the those WL and TB series for ground strike missions. Given the size of a UCAV and that a 076 is much larger than a Essex class, we can be looking at 120+ UCAV per 076.

If the catapult is only used for the occasional manned fix wing cargo run or transfer,  then the 076 really don't need more than 1 catapult.

人们过分强调弹射器在固定翼飞机操作中的必要性。他们忘了在整个二战中,航母都没有弹射器。

现代有人驾驶的固定翼喷气式飞机很重,需要滑跃或弹射器弹射,而现代无人机非常轻,许多是螺旋桨驱动的。

如果高端任务由舰队航母负责,那么076可以自由起飞大量无人机,如WL和TB系列,用于对地打击任务。

考虑到无人机的大小,而且076比埃塞克斯级大得多,可以预见每艘076会搭载120多架无人机。

076真的不需要那么多弹射器,一个就足够了


capitalinventor4823

There isn't a need for a second catapult and an angled deck. China has ships with those features in their carriers. This is a Multiple Purpose Amphibious Assault Ship (LHD) and not a carrier. A second catapult for redundancy isn't a major issue because in a major action there would most likely be more than one LHD used and at least a carrier group in support. That's ignoring any ground based air support available.

不需要第二个弹射器和倾斜甲板。这是一艘多用途两栖攻击舰(LHD),而不是航母。

第二个弹射器是多余的,在一次重大行动中,很可能使用不止一艘LHD,至少有一个航母战斗群提供支持,还有地面空中支援。

TelpPov

Modern warships are too delicate, with that close proxmity, if one is dmged by enemy fire the other won’t escape it and two catapult are too much power consumption. I rather the PLAN not follow the mistakes of the US by jamming too many new things into one platform that it gets plagued by so many problems that makes their ships essentially none serviceable

现代战舰太脆弱了,距离太近,如果一艘被敌人的火力击伤,另一艘也逃不掉,而且两个弹射器太耗电了。

希望中国海军不要重蹈美国的覆辙,把太多的新东西塞进一个平台,这样会受到太多问题的困扰

 

jonahhekmatyar

Adding an EMALS to an LHD just makes so much sense

在两栖攻击舰上添加电磁弹射系统是很有意义的

 

tonysu8860

It's as if the Type 076 is designed for first strike only and disposable, expected to be eliminated within hours of disgorging its landing craft

好像076型是为第一次打击而设计的,而且是一次性的,预计在它的登陆艇下水后几个小时内就会退出战场

 

jonseilim4321

Perhaps the 076 model will soon be replaced by her evolution the 077 with two electromagnetic catapults?

也许076型很快就会被她的进化型077取代,配备两个电磁弹射器?

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oscarpaulvalle5759

stay strong ' china .. lead the world for peace and economic stability for all races..

保持强大,中国!为了所有种族的和平,为了经济稳定,领导世界。

hansudowolfrahm4856

Maybe they'll install a second Email later or on the other 076. I don't see a reason why they should have only 1 or are they any benefits from having just 1.

也许他们稍后会在另一台076上安装第二个弹射系统。我看不出为什么只有1个,或者只有1个有什么好处。

 

taiwanstillisntacountry

Ayaaaah, what happened with the frigate of 3rd-brotha?

三哥的护卫舰怎么样了?

user-ne6xw1sv4u

Given China decided not to equip its stealth fighters with canons, it isn't surprising the new 076 is equipped with only one EMALS. It's the Chinese weird logic.

鉴于中国决定不为其隐形战斗机装备加农炮,新的076型只装备一个电磁弹射系统也就不足为奇了。中国人的逻辑真奇怪。

 

tobyskatefilms7262

nearly complete?  ffs.

接近完工??

yaowanangsa

totally paper ship, the deck is made of plastic

纸老虎,甲板是塑料做的

lishen9

type 76 is a waste of a ship seem have alot of poor design decisions that hinders its fixed wing efficiencies. if they are gonna emphasis it as amphibious assault and helicopter carrier the type 75 is more than enough, and there is no point in building a ship like this , essentially it seemed to me that this ship is low effective and a waste of money

076型浪费钱,很多糟糕的设计,造成效率大打折扣。

如果要强调它是两栖攻击和直升机航母,075型就足够了,建造这样的军舰是没有意义的,基本上在我看来,效率很低,浪费钱

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