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中国是如何接管印尼的镍产业,产量为180万吨,提高了当地的提炼能力

 How China Took Over Indonesia’s Nickel Industry To Fuel Its EVs

中国是如何接管印尼的镍产业,为电动汽车提供燃料?

Indonesia has become the world’s leading producer of nickel, supplying over 40% of global demand crucial for electric vehicle batteries. This surge is driven by partnerships with China, which has improved local refining capabilities. Meanwhile, the United States faces challenges with limited nickel supply, mining just 17,000 metric tons in 2023 compared to Indonesia’s 1.8 million metric tons. Elon Musk has emphasized the need for increased nickel production, highlighting its importance for Tesla and the EV sector. Companies like Talon Metals have been working on opening a new nickel mine in Minnesota, aiming to address the challenges of limited nickel supply in the U.S. CNBC visited a remote area in Sulawesi, Indonesia to understand the impact of nickel mining on locals’ lives, and to find out why China and Indonesia together have disrupted the entire nickel industry.

印度尼西亚已成为世界领先的镍生产国,供应全球超过40%的电动汽车电池需求。这一增长是由与中国的合作推动的,中国提高了当地的提炼能力。

与此同时,美国面临着镍供应有限的挑战,2023年仅开采1.7万吨,而印度尼西亚的产量为180万吨。

埃隆·马斯克强调了增加镍产量的必要性,强调了镍对特斯拉和电动汽车行业的重要性。

Talon Metals等公司一直致力于在明尼苏达州开一个新的镍矿,旨在解决美国镍供应有限的挑战。

CNBC访问了印度尼西亚苏拉威西岛的一个偏 远地区,了解镍矿开采对当地人生活的影响,并分析中国和印度尼西亚一起扰乱了整个镍行业。

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以下是外国网友的评论:

ornachia2489

So you mad because only China interested to actually invest in Indonesia for it Nickels, while the US and Europe only want the raw materials not the Investation??

所以你生气是因为只有中国有兴趣在印尼投资镍矿,而美国和欧洲只想要原材料却不想投资?

 

gregorymalchuk272

It's fascinating how land clearance in develo countries is called "deforestation" but land clearance for agriculture, commercial, and industrial projects in the West isn't viewed as deforestation and habitat destruction.

有趣的是,发展中国家清理土地被称为“森林砍伐”,而西方国家为农业、商业和工业项目而征地,却不被视为森林砍伐和破坏栖息地。

 

teoengchin

Why mainstream media never investigates if the crude oil drilled by Exxon, BP & Shell is ethically sourced?

为什么主流媒体从不调查埃克森、英国石油和壳牌开采的原油是否符合道德标准?

 

nileshsingh4705

From the begng of the video I was wondering why US media suddenly became so concern abot Indonesian people.

They made 17 min paid report to promote a US company by putting chinese company in bad light. No one does better propaganda than western media.

从一开始,我就在想为什么美国媒体突然如此关心印尼人民。

通过诋毁中国公司,宣传一家美国公司。没有人比西方媒体更擅长宣传。

 

rhs_0938

BLAMING CHINA for everything seems to be much easier than fixng their old, dated auto industry!

把一切都归咎于中国似乎比振兴他们落后的汽车工业容易得多

 

Jerry-ii2yp

The west has pretty high moral standard to other countries but once it comes to their own, you know what is going to happen? Silence

西方对其他国家有很高的道德标准,但一旦涉及到自己,又是另一套标准!沉默

 

Luvinist

The West had the same chance to invest in Indonesia. They chose economic colonialism instead with WTO. Indonesia will not fall for that again.

西方也有机会在印尼投资。他们选择经济殖民 主义。印尼不会再上当了。

 

RealGrandFail

This is what should be done in Africa, Ban raw material exports. Processing should be done in Africa.

非洲应该禁止原材料出口,应该在非洲进行加工。

 

riyantrianggaputra4118

Why youre whining about? Cry? Well both indonesia and china wng together

你在抱怨什么?印尼和中国双赢

 

agravt

US and EU media talking about environment is so funny

美国和欧盟媒体谈论环境,这太有趣了

 

deutschdois

The truth is Indonesia open for investment for every country, tbh Indonesia desperate for it (investment for together handling nickel). China so fast dip in to it, with Indonesia agreement & rules, but western want other ways.

事实上,印尼对所有国家的投资都是开放的,尽管印尼迫切需要(共同开采镍的投资)。中国按照印尼的协议和规则,迅速进入,但西方想要按照自己的方式。

 

bedhenis

When western have advantage from indonesia nickel ore, they keep silent. But when indonesia ban nickel ore, suddenly they talking environment.

Indonesia never planning to make china dominant here in nickel smelter industries. The problem is western don't want come here.

They, the western is looser who just keep yelling when they are loose their money in international competition.

西方从印尼的镍矿中获利,他们保持沉默。当印尼禁止镍矿开采时,他们突然开始谈论环境问题。

印尼从未计划让中国在镍冶炼行业占据主导地位。问题是西方人不想来。

他们西方人是失败者,他们在国际竞争中输了,就不停地抱怨。

 

kudaingkrak4919

Back then the Indonesian Government invited the world to invest in the smelting/refining industry in Indonesia. But only China and S Korean companies responded... Today the west are on the bitter side. wkwkwk....

Not only Nickel, Indonesia also big on Manganese, Cobalt, Copper, and Tin... and coal.

以前,印度尼西亚政府邀请世界各国投资印度尼西亚的冶炼/精炼工业。但只有中国和韩国公司回应了……如今,西方国家开始抱怨了。

不仅是镍,印尼也盛产锰、钴、铜、锡……还有煤炭。

 

PranicEnergy

Western countries like the US, canada and Australia has among the highest per capita carbon emission in the world. I don"t really understand why since they hardly produce anything.

美国、加拿大和澳大利亚等西方国家是世界上人均碳排放量最高的国家之一。我真的不明白为什么,他们几乎不生产任何东西。

 

rhs_0938

It's not Western media if they're not bias

如果没有偏见,就不是西方媒体了

 

tackaerep

We have similar problem in Serbia, but our problem is western based company called Rio Tinto. Unfortunatly since they are westerners, we won't recieve media attention in our battle. Even German PM, came few days ago with german carmakers to pressure and sign deals with our government giving EU prefered conditions.

我们塞尔维亚也遇到类似的问题,一家名为力拓的西方公司。不幸的是,他们是西方人,媒体不会关注的。就连德国总理几天前也带着德国汽车制造商来施压,并与我们的政府签署协议,给予欧盟更优惠的条件。

 

landove1486

Indonesia : I want you Guys to take part in building our nickel industry

China : Okay I will invest huge $$$ to build processing plants.

European Union : Nope!!! We don't wanna take part. You have to export your nickel ore in raw form. If you do not comply, we will bring this case to WTO.

Indonesia : Whatever, EU .... I don't give a F. Okay China, I welcome you to join in.

EU : "China took over Indo nickel industry"

Indonesia : Hypocrisy runs so heavily in your blood, doesn't it? Not even a century has passed, and you already try to colonize me AGAIN?

印尼:我希望你们参与建设我们的镍业

中国:好吧,我会投资巨额美元建造加工厂。

欧盟:不,我们不想参加。你们出口镍矿原料就可以。如果你们不遵守,我们就向世贸组织提起诉讼。

印尼:随便你了,欧盟....中国,欢迎你加入。

欧盟:中国接管了印尼镍业

印尼:虚伪深深地流淌在你的血液里,不是吗?还不到一个世纪,你就又想殖民我了?

 

TB-up4x

85% of Indonesian mined nickel goes to making stainless steel, other alloys and nickel plating.

Of the remaining 15% around 1/2 goes into small disposable batteries, phone and laptop batteries.

Somewhere in the order of 7-8% ends up in car batteries.

Absolute BS reporting to try to claim that China's EV industry is fuelling nickel mines in Indonesia,  try at least a little to do SOME research on where the nickel ends up before posting idiotic stories like this.

印尼开采的镍有85%用于制造不锈钢、其他合金和镀镍。

在剩下的15%中,大约1/2用于小型一次性电池、手机和笔记本电脑电池。

大约有7-8%最终被制成了汽车电池。

声称中国的电动汽车产业正在推动印尼镍矿的发展,绝对是胡说八道,在炒作之前,至少要做一点研究,看看镍的最终归宿在哪里。

 

champan250

Poor research, you are commingled between nickel mining and nickel processing. Nickel mining in Indonesia is not controlled by the Chinese, a big portion is still controlled by Indonesian tycoons, Vale, France's Eramet and an Australia-listed company. The Chinese dominance is in several industrial parks that Indonesia govt carved it out to the Chinese to process these ores.

你混淆了镍开采和镍加工。印尼的镍矿并非由中国人控制,很大一部分仍由印尼大亨、淡水河谷(Vale)、法国的Eramet和一家澳大利亚上市公司控制。中国的主导地位是在印尼政府划出的几个工业园区,让中国来加工这些矿石。

 

Tim145Tim145

So these mining directors want to raise Nickel price to raise the battery price and get money from everyone.

所以这些矿业董事想提高镍的价格,进而提高电池的价格,赚每个人的钱。

 

ArkenZio.W_

This happened because western countries did not want to comply with the terms of Indonesian nickel cooperation

Most of the Indonesian resources is taken out of the country, and the profits for the country itself are smaller. This is detrimental to their country and only benefits other countries. This is why the Indonesian government made terms that investor who want nickel from Indonesia, create their companies there. This could open up job vacancies and advance Indonesia's economy and technology. Luckily, China is willing to comply with these terms and western countries only blame Indonesia for this

这是因为西方国家不愿遵守印尼镍业合作的条款

印尼的大部分资源都被带出了国外,国家本身的利润也更少了。这对他们的国家是有害的,只会让其他国家受益。

为此,印尼政府提出了这样的条件:想要从印尼获得镍的投资者,必须在当地建立公司。增加当地就业岗位,推动印尼的经济和科技发展。

幸运的是,中国愿意遵守这些条款,而西方国家只怪印尼

 

foosimon7537

yes, yes, it is all about China, every story has a China. Come on, US, be confident!

是的,都和中国有关,每个故事都有和中国有关。加油,美国,要自信!

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