China’s artillery is an absolute nightmare

中国炮兵绝对能给你带来噩梦

The Chinese People's Liberation Army claims to have the largest artillery force in the world today. Open source intelligence estimates them to have 9,500 artillery pieces in its arsenal. But exactly how capable is their hardware and how well trained are their soldiers?

中国人民解放军声称拥有当今世界上最大规模的炮兵部队。开源情报估计，他们的武器库中有9500门火炮。但他们的装备到底有多强，他们的士兵训练有素吗?

The United States Defense Intelligence Agency in their 2019 China Military Power Report, mentions that artillery is the key to understanding the entire PLA Ground Force. This is because over one third of their force is based on arty.

美国国防情报局在其《2019年中国军力报告》中提到，炮兵是了解解放军地面部队的关键，他们超过三分之一的兵力是炮兵。

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xVMouseVx

Fun fact: you can see the "made in china" on the shells after they land

趣闻轶事：炮弹落地后，你可以在弹壳上看到“中国制造”的字样

kurtwicklund8901

62,000 artillery pieces to Vietnam? That must include 82mm mortar tubes. Which is misleading in the context of the video.

6.2万门火炮给越南？其中包括82毫米迫击炮管？这是有误导性的。

nombinator

The 155mm is not american. It was a work from France and Germany to develop a common shell format. It was better than alternatives at the time and was accepted as a NATO standard as well as adopted by the USA.

155毫米口径不是美国的，是法国和德国开发的通用规格，比当时其他的大炮要好，被接受为北约标准，也被美国采用。

davidqin7033

Chris said China is probably capable of producing a million heavy artillery shells annually. It shows that he had no idea of Chinese military industrial capacity.

中国可能有能力每年生产100万枚重型炮弹？这表明你对中国的军事工业能力一无所知。

jimmytaco6738

“Yo Vietnam now that we don’t want to support you how about you uh… give back all those guns we gave you?”

“Hmmm… No”

“嘿，越南，我们不想支持你了，不如把我们给你的枪都还给我们吧?”

“嗯……不！”

Kai-ic4mp

Keep underestimating them ! Westerns are a special breed of people

西方人继续低估他们！

seasonallyferal1439

The US should say they're switching from 155mm to 157mm and cause China to switch all its artillery.

美国应该把155毫米火炮换成157毫米，让中国也得把所有火炮都换了。

nirvana3921

The ultimate firing range of the artillery was only 30 km. And the PLA has a long-range rocket artillery range of up to 550 km.

火炮的最终射程只有30公里。解放军拥有射程高达550公里的远程火箭炮。

lightsaber8093

One million shells per year is too humble. I work in the manufacturing world. The China production rate can easily exceed 10 times than that I think and that’s still not their max production rate. Factories can work 24/7 and it doesn’t take them long to build new factories.

每年生产一百万枚炮弹，说少了。我从事制造业，中国的生产率可以轻松超过这个数字的10倍，但这仍然不是他们的最高生产率。工厂可以全天候工作，而且建新工厂不需要很长时间。

phillipmorel5116

Battle order did a good breakdown of pla artillery a wile back, The reason why so many pla guns are still 122mm is that they use 122mm at the maneuver brigade level and 155mm in Artillery brigades at the group army level

前段时间，《战斗命令》对解放军的炮兵进行了很好的分析，为什么解放军这么多的火炮仍然是122毫米口径的？

原因是他们在机动旅级使用122毫米口径的，在集团军级炮兵旅使用155毫米口径的

reloads223

In January 1995 the Chinese army unveiled a 21 m long supergun capable of firing large artillery shells into South Korea and Taiwan. The gun could fire 85 mm shells over a 300 km range. Nothing further was heard of the weapon. BUT - Interestingly, China was one of the countries that retained Gerard Bull as a consultant in artillery design in the 1980's.

1995年1月，中国军队公开了一种21米长的超级炮，能够向韩国发射大型炮弹。该炮可以发射85毫米口径的炮弹，射程超过300公里。之后再没有听到关于该武器的消息。有趣的是，中国80年代聘请杰拉德·布尔作为火炮设计顾问

anotherbacklog

Back in 80s China was an US ally and had lots of technological transfers, so it make sense for China to adopt US/NATO standards in a hypothetical war with the Soviet Union.

在80年代，中国是美国的盟友，转让了很多技术，所以中国在与苏联的假想战争中采用美国/北约的标准

militaryanalysis5028

China not only has the most numbers of artilelry, BUT (this might be surprising to many people) they also have the best quality artillery in the world too

China has currently the most powerful Artillery arsenal in the world right now. America is only 2nd in this category today.

中国不仅拥有最多的火炮，而且也拥有世界上质量最好的火炮，这可能会让很多人感到惊讶。中国目前拥有世界上最强大的炮兵。美国目前在这一领域仅排名第二。

eloymiranda7010

That is why the United States LOST to Vietnam and Afghanistan too two countries that didn't have weapons to defend themselves they won with sticks and rocks

为什么美国输给了越南和阿富汗？这两个国家没有武器保护自己，他们用棍棒和石头打赢了

hritikjuyal5484

During 2020 India-China standoff, Chinese forces had deployed towed artillery in the dug outs.

在2020年印中对峙期间，中国在壕沟里部署了牵引火炮。

williamstearns7490

A easy way to judge artillery is to look at those who bought them, like Bangladesh, and just how publicly pissed they’ve been about how badly these weapons suck.

判断中国火炮质量的一个简单方法是看看那些购买它们的国家，比如孟加拉国，看看他们对这些劣质的武器有多愤怒。

azimkhankhanazim6294

So..u expect them to buy your Bonds for u to manufacture weapons to attack them now

你希望他们买你们的债券，然后你们制造武器来攻击他们

juhantoon6524

You are outdated. China is now No. 1 in missiles. Thats the reason why US aircraft carrier has to move out at least 2000km from China shores.

你的消息过时了，中国现在导弹实力排名第一。美国航母不得不远离中国海岸至少2000公里

hlwanmoe1981

China can make 155mm arty shell for $4k while the cost of making 155mm shell in US is $100k. Game over.

中国可以以4000美元的成本制造155毫米口径的炮弹，而美国制造155毫米口径的炮弹的成本是10万美元。游戏结束。

seanchang1202

This self-propelled howitzer is still have to be loaded manually, what an advanced artillery it is.

这种自行榴弹炮仍然需要手动装填，多“先进”啊。

user-yo1kt8jj2h

From 1950 to 1974, China assisted Vietnam with the following military materials: 2,138,000 guns, more than 70,000 cannons, 124,440,000 rounds of ammunition, 18,070,000 rounds of artillery shells, 176 ships, 552 medium-sized and land and water tanks, 320 armored carriers, more than 170 airplanes, 16,000 automobiles, 18,240 tons of explosives, 65,000 cable TVs, 35,000 radios, 11,170,000 sets of military uniforms, which could equip 2 million people, or about RMB 4.26 billion.

1950年至1974年，中国援助越南的军事物资有：火炮213.8万门，加农炮7万多门，弹药1.2444亿发，炮弹1807万发，舰艇176艘，中型坦克和水陆坦克552辆，装甲运输车320辆，飞机170多架，汽车1.6万辆，炸药18240吨，有线电视6.5万台，收音机3.5万台，军服1117万套，可装配200万人，约合人民币42.6亿元。

NorCalMoDo

The US report on China is probably more academic than practical.... If the US understands the Chinese tactics, it would have not lost the direct and indirect conflicts with China, China 1949, Korea 1953, Tib 1955, India 1962, Vietnam 1975, and SCS 2021...

美国关于中国的报告可能学术性大于实用性。如果美国了解中国的战术，就不会在与中国的直接和间接冲突败北，比如1949年中国，1953年朝鲜战争，1962年中印战争，1975年越南战争和2021年南海冲突…

alexandru5369

China= paper tiger. Heck, not even sure they could beat North Korea in a traditional war

他们是纸 老虎，能不能在传统战争中击败朝鲜都很难说

james_the_darklord

China seems to have more different types of artillery compared to the US that has the very old paladin and the 155 & 105 towed gun only

与美国相比，中国似乎有更多不同类型的火炮，而美国只有非常古老的155毫米口径和105毫米口径的牵引炮

andrasbeke3012

122mm artillery isn't obsolete, it holds a different doctrinal use than 152 or 155. It's light artillery rather than medium. The US still uses the M119 105mm.

122毫米口径的火炮并没有过时，它的理论用途与152毫米口径的或155毫米口径的不同。这是轻型火炮而不是中型火炮。美国仍然使用105毫米口径的M119

jeanettewest

Is it just me, or does China's new self-propelled howitzer very closely resembles Germany's?

是不是只有我一个人觉得，中国的新型自行榴弹炮和德国的很像?

SuiLagadema

China: We have much more artillery! Western Grunts: We have shovels, we'll be fine.

中国：我们有更多的火炮！西方士兵：我们有铲子，谁怕谁

colinlee9678

If you have not personally and directly worked in the design, development and testing of these China- made systems then how do you justify that your analytics of them is accurate? The analogy is judging a book by its cover  which is more often than not, very inaccurate  !

如果你没有亲自参与这些中国制造系统的设计、开发和测试，那么你如何证明你对它们的分析是准确的？这个类比是无异于以貌取人，这往往是非常不准确的!

RonaldTrumpOfficial

The reason china can produce so much shells is because of their resource reduction initiative. This is also the reason why Chinese shells are reusable.

中国能生产这么多炮弹的原因是他们的资源削减计划。这也是中国炮弹可重复使用的原因。