China's Type 054B vs US Constellation Class - Frigate Comparison

中国054B型 VS 美国星座级护卫舰

This video compares China's Type 054B with the Constellation class of the US Navy. Both ships are upcoming anti-submarine frigates of their respective navies. As you will find out, there are notable differences in the capability and delivery of both classes.

比较中国的054B型和美国海军的星座级护卫舰。二者都是各自海军即将推出的反潜护卫舰，功能和交付方面存在显著差异。

以下是外国网友的评论：

fatdoi003

most important thing is u.s can commission one constellation whilst china can commission ten 054B

最重要的是，美国服役一艘星座级，而中国能服役10艘054B

redblueyankee8343

China has built its 2nd-3rd Type 054B and is about to enter operate as far as I remember while the first Constellation is not even half completed. You cannot compare something that is real with something that is not yet and probably never will be.

据我所知，中国已经建造了2-3艘054B型护卫舰，即将投入使用，而第一艘星座级护卫舰一半都还没完工。你无法将现成的东西与未完工的东西进行比较。

moss550

Constellation is probably the better ship one on one, but it cost is 1.5 times that of a 055, so the Chinese can likely buy 3-4 054B for the price of one Constellation. The 054B will have substantial advantage in a 3 on 1 fight.

Given the ships are supposed to be frigates, I'd say the 054B is the better frigate, because it has a good enough weapon and sensor suite but cheap enough to be built in huge numbers needed to supplement their destroyer fleet.

Constellation are mini destroyers with a price tag to match. It's too expensive to be built in the numbers required =

星座级可能会更好，但它的成本是055型的1.5倍，所以中国能以一艘星座级的成本造3-4艘054B。3对1，在战斗中具有实质性的优势。

护卫舰，我认为054B更好，武器强大，传感器套件，而且足够便宜，可以大量建造，以补充他们的驱逐舰舰队。

星座级护卫舰，是迷你驱逐舰，价格差不了多少。要建造所需数量，成本太昂贵。

minhmeo9506

For every Constellation that is laid down (assuming it actually gets laid down), China has built 3-4 Type 054Bs. By the time the US launches the first ship, China will probably have Type 054C. They will be behind in both quantity and quality.

每造一艘星座级(假设它真的建造了)，中国就能建造3-4艘054b型。等美国服役第一艘的时候，中国可能有054C型了。美国在数量和质量上都会落后。

phils4634

2029 is FIVE years away, and by that time China will certainly have perfected quad-packing of their smaller missiles. China is also making very major advances in  ASEA radars, including reducing unit costs via economies of production scale, so in five years time the exsting masthead radar may be upgraded, providing full ASEA capability as well as extended range. The major advantage is modular construction, and speed of construction (which also = speed of repair); China can easily churn these out in high numbers, the first has already completed sea trials, with the second hull nearly finished.  Will crew numbers be comparable, or will technology improvements mean a smaller operational crew for the Chinese vessels? ? If this is the case, then that, too, will be an advantage.

距离2029年还有5年的时间，到那时，中国肯定已经完善了小型导弹的四联装。中国的有源相控阵雷达也取得了重大进步，包括生产规模经济，降低单位成本，因此在五年内现有的桅顶雷达可能会升级，全面列装有源相控阵雷达。主要优势是模块化结构和建造速度(还有修理速度)，中国可以轻松量产，第一艘已经完成了海试，第二艘也接近完工。船员数量是否会有可比性，或者技术改进是否意味着中国军舰的操作船员会更少？如果是这样的话，那么这也是一个优势。

kenpower3052

The American ship is not even in the water. It faces many, many problems and cost overruns. The engines are a major problem. Design, management, business models, worker levels and skills are all big problems, Check out Boeing's problems. Comparisons are problematic because the US finds it difficult to build ships. The US must police many oceans to maintain its hegenomy whereas China needs to defend a small area and has the worlds largest and most lethal aircraft carrier, the Chinese mainland. I would not want to challenge this country.

美国军舰根本就没下水，面临许多问题，包括成本超支。引擎是个大问题。设计、管理、商业模式、工人水平和技能都是大问题，看看波音的问题就知道了。

所以没有啥好比较的，美国发现自己现在造船很难。美国要维持自己的霸权，必须控制许多海域，而中国需要保卫的区域较小，并且拥有世界上最强大的航空母舰。如果是我，我可不想挑战这个国家。

tainechen1634

One is a ship, the other is a PPT

一个是真正的军舰，而另一个还是PPT

nlpha9318

by the time constellation is in service we might have the 054c

等到星座级护卫舰投入使用的时候，我们可能有054C型了。

kempmt1

I’m pretty sure you can say that the Type 54b has torpedo tubes and a bow sonar while the Constellation doesn’t. Plus, Type 54b is in commission.

我很确定054B型有鱼雷发射管和舰首声纳，而星座级护卫舰没有。另外，054b型正在服役。

kentriat2426

I do not see the US vessel carrying land attack cruise missiles as an advantage in any way. The conflict between China and the USA will be fought 400 km outside the inner island chain where land based short and medium hypersonic anti ship missiles held by China will keep the Constellation class vessels to far out to sea to effectively use the cruise missiles for other than coastal targets or island chain fortresses

我认为美国舰船携带对陆攻击巡航导弹不会有任何优势。

中国和美国之间的冲突会在岛链外400公里处进行，中国的陆基中短程高超音速反舰导弹，能让星座级护卫舰不敢靠近，让后者无法有效使用巡航导弹打击沿海目标

DarkVader-jj4dt

The U.S. can't even design their own ships now, the constellation is an Italian design and the 054B is the better ship.

美国现在连军舰都设计不来，星座级护卫舰是意大利设计的，054B更优秀。

dreadlord76

Would love to see how delayed the ship will be with the export control of Gallium, Germanium, Antimony, and Russian Titanium.

我很想看看中国对镓、锗、锑和钛的出口管制后，美国星座级护卫舰的交付会延误到什么程度。

RADICALFLOAT95

this world and community actually genuinely needs more people actually like you in this world and this is actually the actual real China that the actual American and British BBC propaganda mainstream media actually don't show you is actually really like and actually capable of actually doing

这个世界真的需要更多你这样的人，报道真实的中国，而美国和英国的BBC等主流媒体并没有报道真实的中国

andrew6815

Cost overruns in US military procurement is a feature, not a bug

美国军事采购中的成本超支是一个特点，不是bug

gelinrefira

054B wins because it has the "mantou" turret.

054B赢了，它有“馒头炮塔”。

davidk6269

Thank you for another very timely and insightful upload! I sincerely hope that we will never have the misfortune of actually observing how these two vessel classes perform against one another, and that any comparison remains theoretical.

我真诚希望，我们永远不会看到到这两军舰在战场厮杀，任何比较都是理论上的。

iwanstillisntacountry

Compare the carriers of the UK, China and little-India.

比较一下英国、中国和印度的航母吧。

Senbonzakura776

Very cool video. Both Frigates look good, but the I'd expect more delays with the Constellation. It's just what happens here in the US when it comes to new platforms

两艘护卫舰看起来都很好，但我预计星座级会延期，美国新平台推出一贯会发生这样的事。

leecheong4986

This is the technology is also difference now. China is able to squeeze all the goodies in a ship 30% smaller. By 2029, China will have, perhaps 10x 054B frigate. China will build them with design effectiveness, technology effectiveness, cost effectiveness and at a much faster rate. Last month 90% of shipbuilding around the world went to China. The industry base will give the Chinese a far ahead advantage. Comparison? Better wait for 2029 before doing the comparison.

技术已经今非昔比。中国可以把所有的东西都塞进小30%的船体里。到2029年，中国可能会拥有10艘054B护卫舰。中国将以更快的速度建造航母，具有设计效率、技术效率、成本效益的优势。上个月，全球90%的造船订单交给了中国。工业基础强大，给中国带来明显优势。还比吗？最好等到2029年再做比较。

pekinoei1042

It's just like comparing apples with onions... At the time the American frigate does operate, maybe China already has a more advanced frigate too...

FYI, China ship building is far much faster than the US... If I'm not mistaken, it's 500 times more than the US... So, compare it when the ship is operational, ok...

这就像拿苹果和洋葱作比较一样……在美国星座级护卫舰可服役的时候，也许中国已经有了更先进的护卫舰…

中国造船的速度比美国快得多，如果没记错的话，是美国的500倍…所以，等美国的星座级能下水了再比不迟……

lightcable

Given US Constellation displacement, I would compare it to 052D. 052D is equipped with four fixed H/LJG-346A covering all four sizes simultaneously. It is better than US Constellation Class radar setup. Not to mention PLA has already had couple dozens of 054D in service while US Navy "may" receive her first vessel in 2029. There is no comparison imo.

考虑到美国星座级护卫舰的排水量，觉得与052D进行比较更合适。052D配备四枚固定H/LJG-346A。它的雷达比美国星座级好。更不用提解放军已经有几十艘054D服役了，而美国海军“可能”在2029年接收第一艘星座级。在我看来，二者没有可比性。

DevilSurvivor69

The US has forgotten how to make a quality medium warship in a weird way. They got too caught up heavy warship hubris and there a huge gap in their force structure.

美国忘了如何建造一艘先进的中型军舰。他们过于偏爱重型军舰，力量结构存在巨大差距。

jasonshen7600

One is built, tested, and continues to improve, the other just added 10% to it's weight because some error

一个是建造，测试，并不断改进，另一个只是增加了10%的重量

laowantongchau

Considering the US shipbuilding efficiency, by the time the first Constellation ship achieves its first sea trial, the Chinese will have its even more advanced 054C ship being built.

考虑到美国的造船效率，到第一艘星座级舰艇完成首次海试时，中国都在建造更先进的054C型了。

keli4068

the biggest difference is 054B，is real。 constellation is a legend

最大的区别是，054B护卫舰是真实存在的，而星座级护卫舰只是个传说

ah5878

This Constellation class is the size of 052D, how can it be a corvette?  Using NATO theory, if 055 is a cruiser then Constellation is a destroyer.  There is no such thing as “cost effective” in U.S. military.

星座级和052D一样大，怎么会是轻型护卫舰呢？按照北约的理论，如果055型驱逐舰是巡洋舰，那么星座级就是驱逐舰。美国军队没有所谓的“成本效益”。

jollybubu6622

premature to compare an exsting ship with one which is not even build..so for now china has the edge..

拿一艘现有的军舰和一艘甚至还没有建造的军舰进行比较，为时过早了，所以目前中国有优势。

TelpPov

One is mature yet advanced to be built in large meaningful quantities and the other one is non exstent

一个成熟且先进，可以大量建造，而另一个是不存在的

davidk6269

As the Chinese PLAN's capabilities advance by leaps and bounds past the slow-moving US Naval development and construction programs, the US might have to rename the "Constellation Class" to the more accurate name of the "Constipation Class".  ;

随着中国海军的能力突飞猛进，超越了缓慢的美国海军，美国可能不得不将“星座级”重新命名为更准确的名称--“便秘级”。；

shengzhong2662

to be honest, I'm a little dismissive of 054B and constellation

说实话拿054B和星座级比，我有点不屑