Why NO ONE wants to BUY the HAL Tejas fighter?

为什么没人想买光辉战机？

Something curious happens with the HAL Tejas, the combat ship produced by India. Although several countries have shown interest in buying the plane introduced in 2015, no transaction has yet been finalized. The strangest thing is that its Chinese-Pakistani counterpart, the JF-17 Thunder, has already found three international buyers, in addition to several interested parties, such as Argentina or Iran.

印度生产的光辉遇到了一些奇怪的事情。尽管有几个国家表示有兴趣购买2015年推出的这款战机，但尚未敲定任何交易。最奇怪的是，它的中国-巴基斯坦竞争对手，JF-17雷电，已经找到了三个国际买家，还有几个感兴趣的国家，如阿根廷或伊朗。

以下是外国网友的评论：

bagongkelabu

Admin, your statement about Malaysia 'buying' the Tejas is false. Malaysia has announced it's buying the KAI FA50 Block 20 in February 2023! Sorry, no Tejas for the Malaysian Air Force.

关于马来西亚“购买”光辉战机的说法是错误的。马来西亚此前说要在2023年2月购买KAI FA50 Block 20 ！抱歉，马来西亚空军没有光辉战机。

gani999

Another potential issue going against the Tejas is after sales spares and technical support. HAL, the manufacturer of Tejas also maintains Indian Air Force and Indian Navy aircraft, and is contract bound to give these two customers priority. Other customers may face delays in tech. support unless HAL increases its capacity.

光辉战机的另一个潜在问题是售后备件和技术支持。光辉战机的制造商HAL（印度斯坦航空有限公司）也维护印度空军和印度海军的战机，必然会优先考虑这两个客户。除非HAL提升其能力，否则其他客户可能会面临技术支持的延迟。

xaoma4297

Malaysia reject Tejas but instead buying FA-50 block 20 18 unit from Korea

马来西亚拒绝了光辉战机，转而从韩国购买FA-50 block 2018

007tj5

It's overall production rate is very slow only 40 in total. The mk1a will take at least 3-4 more months just for the prototype. Other countries are very skeptical about the HALs ability to deliver, overall it's not a very competitive package.

光辉的整体生产速度非常慢，总共只有40架。MK1A原型机将需要至少3-4个月的时间。其他国家对HAL的交付能力持怀疑态度，总的来说，这不是一个非常有竞争力的方案。

khari8383

This guy knows nothing about Tejas

这家伙对光辉战机一无所知

TD402dd

Malaysia has tentatively chosen the KAI FA--50 or the single seat F-50.

马来西亚暂时选择了KAI FA- 50或单座F-50。

HTeo-og1lg

The most important reason why Tejas is not a "safe" for some countries to purchase is because there are components used in the Tejas which are not "Indian origin", which makes the purchaser worry that if they are sanctioned by the IP-owner country of the said component, they might not be able to get the components in the event of repairs or maintenance.

TBH, it has nothing due to geo-politics correctness, as some suggested in the comments.

光辉战机对一些国家来说不“安全”的最重要原因是，光辉战机使用的一些部件不是“印度产”的，这让买家担心，如果他们受到相关国家的制裁，他们可能无法获得一些零部件。

老实说，就像一些人在评论中说的那样，这与地缘政治正确性有关。

emperor2267

It's okay. Our tenacity and continuous efforts by indigenouisation, upgrades and modifications will ensure a good market in due course. Ups and downs are part of success. For now, we are happy and confident with Tejas.

没关系。我们坚韧不断的努力，通过本土化、升级和修改，将确保将来获得市场份额。起起落落是成功的一部分。目前，我们对光辉战机感到满意和自信。

NSG-zi1ut

How many countries bought the rafale before India indicted them?

在印度暗示他们之前，有多少国家购买了阵风战机？

homer30

There are many competitions in fighter jet industry. There are so many alternatives for Tejas. There are Gripen, FA50, KF21, F16, Rafale, and several more.

战斗机工业竞争激烈。光辉战机的替代品太多了，有鹰狮、FA50、KF21、F16、阵风等等。

cheramanirumborai7181

HAL is the culprit .. cant even supply and maintain helicopters given to Eqcuador!

HAL是罪魁祸首，卖给厄瓜多尔的直升机都还没交货

ruturajshiralkar5566

The biggest reason is IAF itself hasn't inducted Tejas into its combat fleet while the JF-17 has a fairly significant operational record. Argentina is prospecting the Tejas fighter and they rejected PAF JF-17. Egypt is also prospecting Tejas. Once the IAF and Indian Navy start inducting Tejas in significant numbers, automatically the sales will boost.

最大的原因是印度空军本身没有装备光辉战机，而JF-17有相当重要的作战记录。

阿根廷正在观望光辉战机，他们拒绝了巴基斯坦空军的JF-17。埃及也在观望光辉战机。一旦印度空军和印度海军开始大量列装光辉战机，销量就会自动提升。

anonkni8

Tejas have been built to quickly replace our aging MiG 21 aircrafts. IAF is going for quantities while not hinging too much on quality/capability.

生产光辉战机是为了迅速取代我们老化的米格-21战机。印度空军追求的是数量，而不太看重质量和能力。

christieaf08

The world doesn't have to worry.  India can use it for its own self-defense without depending on imports,  We have to increase production and keep all our airfields fully loaded with Tejas and ignore the opinion and comments of the media or the jealous West.  If ISRO can out-beat NASA in performance, then the IAF too can be adapted and made self-reliant.  

defence forces too can learn to be self sufficient

这个世界不需要担心。印度可以用它来自卫，不依赖进口。我们必须增加产量，让所有的机场都停满光辉战机，无视媒体和西方的意见和评论。如果ISRO能打败NASA，那么印度空军也能。国防部队也可以学会自给自足。

פםןחנבעחלןטכ

4:00 What was made in India? and why i it called indegneously developed when all is from outside India.

什么是印度制造？为什么说它是自主研发的，所有部件都来自国外。

realnapster1522

Who cares. India has got a world beater jet and it’s enemies are very scared now

谁在乎。印度拥有世界一流的战机，它的敌人现在非常害怕

vpnjoe8745

Tejas is an expensive failure of HAL. It will probably end up as a jet trainer in Indian armed forces

光辉战机是HAL的败笔，代价昂贵。它可能最终会成为印度武装部队的喷气式教练机

sriharshacv7760

It is common sense that no one would buy an aircraft that is never used. We must order a large quantity (at least 4 squadrons) of Tejas Mark 2s in the air force and produce most parts endogenously. Also, should consider hiring strong manufacturing engineers based on merit (or may be outsourcing it if people quotas are affecting quality).

Once we streamline our manufacturing and consume them in large numbers (and making spares), it wouldn't be that hard to find buyers (or make profit). At this point, it is a waste of time worrying about foreign buyers.

没有人会买一架还没有列装的战机，这是常识。我们的空军可以订购大量（至少4个中队）的光辉- Mark - 2，并在国内生产大部分零件。此外，任人唯贤，聘请高级工程师（拒绝预留制，不行就外包）。

一旦我们简化了生产流程并零部件大规模本土化，寻找买家（或盈利）就不会那么困难了。届时就不必浪费时间担心找不到外国买家了。

cemo3292

Why should they buy a Tejas if you can buy an F-16 which is battle proven and cheaper then this?

如果你能买到经过实战验证的F-16，而且比这架便宜，他们为什么要买光辉战机？

rupeshjha0

It's a light category aircraft not like a f 16 block 72 which is medium weight. Next year it will convert into tejas mk 1A which has AESA redar and upgraded counter major systems and is upgraded with various types of air to air and air to ground missiles like Astra mk 1 which has range of 110 km and Astra mk 2 which has range of 160-180 km and worlds fastest cruise missile brahmos NG. Its new versions are also under construction Tejas mk 2 which is better than f 16 and Jas 39 gripen. First flight estimated in 2024. Other aircraft are also under construction like TEDBF and AMCA which is the world's first 5.5 jen fighter plane and AMCA Mk 2.Thankyou

这是一种轻型战机，不像F - 16 block 72那样是中型战机。明年，它将改装为光辉MK 1A，配备有源相控阵雷达和升级的系统，并可携带各种类型的空对空和空对地导弹，如射程为110公里的阿斯特拉mk 1和射程为160-180公里的阿斯特拉mk 2，以及世界上最快的巡航导弹布拉莫斯NG。它的新版本也在建造中，比F16和Jas 39鹰狮更好。首飞预计在2024年。其他战机也在建造中，比如TEDBF和AMCA，这是世界上第一架5.5代战斗机，还有AMCA Mk 2。

firebird8969

Tejas is most reliable fighters in the market having no issues on flight or technical issue or glitches or having naval varient also sucessful landed in aircraft carrier.

光辉战机是市面上最可靠的战机，施肥一切顺利，没有技术问题，海军版成功降落在航空母舰上。

happiness16575

Earlier french dassault was aslo unable to sale raffle jet but know one by one many countries are giving order cz Indian airforce order this aircraft, why ? Its simple good aircrafts comes with lots of responsibilities and got attention by american and other western countries. These countries doesn't want to let unfriendly countries to use such a quality aircrafts thats why they make such a environment cz of which small nation cant buy these lethal aircraft whereas aircfraft like jf17 and korean aircraft are low quality or training aircrafts.

早些时候，法国达索公司的阵风战机也卖不出去，但很多国家都订购，印度空军也订购了，为什么？优秀啊，受到了美国和其他西方国家的关注。

这些国家不想让不友好的国家列装这么高质量的战机，不让小国买到这些致命的战机，而JF17和韩国战机是低质量战机或训练机。

AshishBagade-hv4el

First it has to prove its worth in Indian air force for atleast 10 years....The design looks like a very old of bygone era man

首先，它必须在印度空军中至少服役10年，证明自己的价值....这个设计看起来非常古老。

475girish

Real reason could be its Production numbers and upgrades... its quite Less and now they have started upgrading it and increasing its productivity.

真正的原因可能在于它的产量和升级…现在他们已经开始升级，提高生产率了。

uzairzareen999

Cant compete a samosa fighter  with jf 17 cuz we can find tejas only on papers

不能和枭龙竞争，光辉战机还停留在纸面上。

studyonline4763

Malaysia bought the Korean FA50. Indians will say it is Malaysia's loss

马来西亚购买了韩国的FA50。印度人会说这是马来西亚的损失

kishore3874

Currently Tejas is the smallest and lightest in its class of supersonic combat aircraft. Tejas is a more capable, maneuverable, agile, and reliable aircraft than the JF-17. So far, JF 17 had 5 crashes vs Tejas with just 1 crash in 8 years of operation. Tejas has 4X better safety record than JF-17 Thunder.Just wait for updated version, Tejas Mk-2.   These flights are best option for Aircraft vessel carriers.

目前，光辉战机是同级别超音速战斗机中最小、最轻的。光辉战机是一种比JF-17更强大、更灵活、更可靠的战机。到目前为止，枭龙战机有5次坠毁，而光辉战机在8年中只有1次坠毁。光辉战机的安全记录比枭龙战机好4倍。就等着升级版光辉Mk-2吧，是航母舰载机的最佳选择。

DimitriNakamoto

According to americans , evryone wants F-16,F-21,F-35, B2 and nobody wants Tejas , Rafale, Su-57 , Su-30 , Eurofighter etc

美国人说，每个人都想要F-16、F-21、F-35、B2，没有人想要光辉、阵风、苏-57、苏-30、欧洲战机等

superpooper_2030

When buying Tejas, for maintenance needs to source from dozens of aerospace suppliers around the world

买了光辉战机，维修时需要从世界各地的数十家航空供应商那里采购配件