Why are Chinese cars so good compared with American cars
跟美国车比,为什么中国车这么好?
以下是Quora读者的评论:
Daniel Barbosa
Define “good”. Define “Chinese cars”. Cars produced in China by Ford, GM, VW, Mercedes, Toyota… are still Ford, GM, VW, Mercedes, Toyota… But chinese cars like Chery, JAC, Great Wall, Brilliance are not so good as american cars. Even French cars are better than Chinese cars by a whole lot. They have some qualities and they’re evolving, but don’t give up a tradicional brand for a Chinese brand just yet. Maybe in 15 years.
I’m not going to talk about the copycats. They’re lame. They’re made for the low-mid class in China that dream about a good car to have at least the looks.
Remember South Korean cars from 30 years ago? They were lame piece of garbage nobody wanted. But they focused on quality and today you can buy a Hyundai or a Kia that competes with Ford, Chevrolets, VWs and Toyotas in many levels. Don’t expect that from a Chinese cars, as they focus on low price and high level of gadgets. Right now, Chinese cars can’t be taken seriously.
先说清什么是“好”。什么是“中国车”。福特、通用、大众、奔驰、丰田等品牌在中国生产的车也仍然是福特、通用、大众、奔驰、丰田的车……但奇瑞、江淮、长城、华晨等中国车可比不上美国车。就连法国车也比中国车好很多。他们有一些优点,他们在不断进步,但别轻易放弃传统品牌,转而选择中国品牌。也许15年后会不一样吧。
我不想说山寨货。他们太差劲了,是为中国中低阶层的人设计的,这些人做梦都想拥有一辆漂亮的好车。
还记得30年前的韩国车吗?他们是没人要的垃圾车。但它们注重质量,如今你可以买到能在很多层面上与福特、雪佛兰、大众和丰田媲美的现代或起亚牌汽车。但不要对中国汽车抱有同样的期望,因为他们只看重低价和高级配件。就目前而言,中国汽车还不成气候。
Tony Kam
If the OP believes Chinese made cars are better than American cars then it doesn't say much about the American car industry. Chinese cars, for now, typically perform worse when it comes to safety ratings. With time that could very well improve.
There's a story I heard about Volkswagen and their Chinese made cars. The quality of the locally produced parts did not match that produced in Germany so they wanted to import the parts. The chinese wouldn't allow it much to the dismay of the VW execs as it would lower their standing. They were told that as every car they manufactured there would be sold locally the government didn't care as long as the jobs were kept in China. Also the locals wouldn't care neither as they were used to poor quality and would consider it acceptable.
如果题主认为中国制造的汽车比美国制造的好,那么它对美国汽车工业就不太看好。就目前而言,中国汽车在安全评级方面的表现通常不太理想。随着时间的推移,这种情况很可能会得到改善。
我听过一个关于大众和他们中国产汽车的故事。当地生产的零件质量与德国生产的不一样,所以他们想进口这些零件。中国不批,这让大众高管很沮丧,因为这会降低他们的口碑。他们被告知,他们在中国生产的每一辆车都将在当地销售,所以只要工作机会留在中国,他们就不在乎。当地人也不会在意,因为他们已经对质量水平已经习以为常了,可以接受。
Chris Coleman
China currently outstrips the rest of the world in automobile production. They easily produce more vehicles than Europe, Japan and the United States combined. However they are not high quality automobiles.
Many of the Chinese automobiles from SAIC, Dongfeng, FAW and Chang’an are copies of production vehicles from Honda, Toyota, Volkswagen, Jeep, GM and Smart. They are usually equipped with engines producing far less horsepower than their legitimate counterparts and the emissions for their vehicles are notably higher. Likewise, features like brakes, suspension, steering and electronics are also sub-par.
Since the automotive industry is state-owned, and vehicles are distributed on an ongoing basis based on need, there is no competition, which tends to guide businesses to improve their products. Without business competition, the products remain at quality levels, which can be compared with U.S. vehicles made in the mid-1980’s, albeit with updated styling borrowed from other manufacturers.
So to answer the question, Chinese automobiles are in no way superior to any of their competition overseas.
中国目前的汽车产量超过了世界其他国家。他们生产的汽车比欧洲、日本和美国的产量总和还要多,但汽车的质量并不高。
上汽(SAIC)、东风(Dongfeng)、一汽(FAW)和长安(Chang an)生产的许多中国汽车都是仿制本田(Honda)、丰田(Toyota)、大众(Volkswagen)、Jeep、通用汽车(GM)和Smart的。中国车配备的发动机马力远远小于同类车型,但排放量高得多。同样,刹车、悬架、转向和电子设备等功能也不达标。
由于汽车行业是国有的,因此不存在竞争,而竞争往往会迫使企业不断改良其产品。在没有商业竞争的情况下,这些产品的质量水平还跟上世纪80年代中期的美国汽车差不多,只是采用了从其他制造商那借来的更新款式。
所以,我的回答是:中国汽车没有任何海外竞争优势。
Victor Dachev
I hope this is a joke.
Most chinese cars are literally illegal in Europe, becaue they can not pass the minimal safety and emission requirenments. I live in Bulgaria and we have/had the experiment it asseble Great Wall cars here and avoid the import taxes (now only the pickup trucks are still in production, due govermental orders). Cheap indeed (altrogh not that much chaeper). Basically ALL owners of brand new cars had to return to factory due some deffect. About 5 years lather you simply can not see any still on the road.
我希望这是个玩笑。
大多数中国汽车在欧洲是不合规的,因为它们不能通过最低的安全和排放要求。我住在保加利亚,我们曾经尝试在本地装配长城汽车以避开进口税。价格确实很便宜。但是基本上所有的品牌新车都会因为这样那样的问题返厂维修。差不多5年时间,路上就看不到这些车了。
Mochou Lin
Chinese cars like Geely are getting better every day. However, I would not go that far and claim Chinese cars are much better than their American counterparts.
With that being said, passenger cars made in the US are usually perceived as very unreliable, gasoline-hungry and “roughly” assembled. In China we don’t really compare Chinese cars with American cars like Dodge and Chevrolet because they are not considered worth comparing to.
Tesla, on the other hand, is exceptionally popular. More than 10,000 Model 3 are delivered every month in China, making it the best selling EV in the market.
像吉利这样的中国车每天都在进步。然而,我不会因此夸大,说中国的汽车比美国的好得多。
话虽如此,人们普遍认为美国制造的轿车非常不可靠、耗油量大、组装“粗糙”。在中国,我们不会把中国车和道奇(Dodge)、雪佛兰(Chevrolet)等美国车进行比较,因为它们不值得相提并论。
另一方面,特斯拉广受欢迎。Model 3在中国每月交付超过1万辆,成为市场上最畅销的电动车。
Daryl Mark
Answer = They aren’t. Not even close.
As others have noted, they are design rip offs, abysmal quality, and crashworthiness that wouldn’t pass most modern countries’ standards.
I would like the OP to make a few statements regarding why they think they are better. Either the Q is a troll, or the OP is Chinese and so heavily subjective they can’t see past their flag.
P.S. I travel internationally a lot, and have driven many, many cars of all origin.
答案=他们并没有比美国车好,甚至可以说差距甚远。
正如其他人所指出的那样,它们剽窃设计,质量低劣,无法通过大多数现代国家的防撞标准。
我希望题主解释一下为什么他们觉得中国车更好。题主要么是在挑衅,要么自己就是中国人,所以才会这么主观,看不清自己的位置。
注:我经常出国旅行,开过各种各样的车。
Jun Tupas
Answer:
Have not seen one that’s so good even compared to even Korean car manufacturers. However, Chinese manufacturers have also tied up with European, Japanese and American car manufacturers to improve versions that will passed China’’s standards. But I would not consider those Chinese indigenous cars. I bought a changan a mini SUV CS95 almost similar in design with a known brand for only US$14,800 three years ago and it is still working fine.
答:
我还没见过比韩国汽车制造商生产的更好的汽车。不过中国制造商与欧洲、日本和美国的汽车制造商合作,改进能够通过中国标准的车型。但我不会考虑购买中国的国产车。三年前,我仅花14,800美元买了一辆长安小型 SUV CS95,外观设计上与某个知名品牌几乎完全一样,现在还开得好好的。
Lee Weidner
I don't know about that. I visited China a couple of years ago and I noticed that many people drove American made autos. The family that i stayed with explained that Chinese people perfered American made cars because they were better made and people were willing to spend additional money in order to own one made in the US, not American cars made in China. Now the family i stayed with was very well off and could afford to pay the import tax.
我不知道。几年前我去过中国,看到很多人开着美国产的汽车。和我同住的家庭解释说,中国人更喜欢美国制造的汽车,因为它们的制造水平更高,而且人们愿意花更多的钱去买美国制造的汽车,而不是中国制造的美国汽车。现在和我同住的家庭非常富裕,有能力支付进口税。
Joeann Kim, Designed my own cars since 6 years old
FIRST OF ALL. THE DESIGN, CHINA WINS COMPLETELY. AND THE PRICE? CHINA COMPLETELY. LONGER LASTING? AMERICA. CRASH TEST SAFTEY? USA.
There are ways chinese cars are better and american cars are better SEE THE PICTURES BELOW.
THE AMERICAN SPORTS CAR (FORD GT).
首先。在设计方面,中国胜出。至于价格?中国无敌。而耐用年限,美国胜出。碰撞试验安全度?美国胜出。
在某些方面,中国车和美国车各有千秋,请看下面的图片。
美国跑车(福特GT)。
AND THE LAST ONE, THE CHINESE SPORTS CAR (NIO EP9).
而下面这款是中国的跑车(NIO EP9)。
See? told yah. chinese cars look amazing.
看到了吗?我说得没错吧,中国车简直帅呆了。
Fredrik Kleiner
From my experience with Chinese vehicles and friends who've bought them also, they are great when it's new, but before the first year, things started falling off, breaking, etc.
The worst thing that happened was the lack of replacement parts and inability to order them and how long it took to get the parts they fulfilled the orders for.
Better off with Indian cars, trucks and motorcycles than any Chinese vehicles now and probably the foreseeable future.
从我和中国车打交道的经验以及买过中国车的朋友们的经验来看,新车是不错的,但是过没多久,车子就开始出问题了等等。
最糟糕的是零部件少,无法订购,以及需要很长时间才能拿到订购的零件。
从现在到可预见的未来,印度的汽车、卡车和摩托车都比中国的要好。
AbdulMajid Jammal
Why are Chinese cars so good compared with American cars?
Huh?!?
A out the only thing that Chinese cars are ‘better' at is the initial price…and that's only if you overlook the long term cost of running the vehicle. Even Korean car makers far outclass the Chinese ones.
I mean come on; ‘Chinese product’ is synonymous with ‘fake, non durable trinket'.
为什么中国车比美国车好?
嗯? ! ?
中国汽车唯一“更好”的地方就是购车价格……而且你还要忽略汽车的长期使用成本。甚至连韩国汽车制造商比中国汽车制造商好太多。
我的意思是,拜托,“中国产品”就等同于“假冒、不耐用的小玩意儿”。
Justin Culmo
“Better” is probably not close to true. I’ve read a lot of articles about some of Chinese-brand cars and the main take away is that many of these cars start to show major signs of wear after just a couple of months. Particularly Rust, Weather Strips, missing pieces, loose bolts, etc.
Chinese cars are not made to the same strict standards other countries require, and that applies at every level of manufacturing and testing. These are growing pains and as a result, a lot of problems go overlooked.
Another issue is that Chinese cars directed at the masses are designed to compete on the roads with motorized scooters and bicycles. They’re incredibly small and humble, and because pricing is a major factor, a lot of features are missing and corners cut.
说“更好”可能并不对。我读过很多关于中国品牌汽车的文章,得出的主要结论是,许多中国品牌的汽车在几个月后就会出现磨损的迹象。特别是出现生锈,密封条,零件丢失,螺栓松动等问题。
中国制造的汽车没有其他国家那么严格的标准,这些都是成长的烦恼,因此,很多问题被忽视了。
另一个问题是,面向普通民众的中国汽车是为在道路上与摩托车和自行车竞争而设计的。它们非常小巧简单,而且因为价格是主要因素,所以很多功能都被忽略了。
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Izak Burger
I’m not an American, but I too would deny that this is the case. Here in South Africa, the Japanese vehicles are king (by which I mean mostly Toyota). Then it gets a bit vague, I’d put VW and Volvo pretty high up but these days they are easily on par with Hyundai and Kia. There is BMW and Mercedes, but they make luxury vehicles (or at least executive vehicles) and nobody wants them after they are 10 years old, so we’ll just ignore those. Next on the popularity/dependability ladder is Peugeot, Citroën and Renault/Nissan (the French cars), and below them the Indian cars (Tata, Mahindra). Dead last, even after the Indian vehicles, are the Chinese cars.
Where do American cars fit in? Well… GM left (again, as they always do), which pretty much leaves Ford. Given that Ford’s are assembled locally from parts that come from all over… it’s not even clear whether they are really American. I would put Ford just one down from the Japanese makers, right with VW and Volvo.
我不是美国人,但我一样会否认这一点。在南非,日本车才是王道 (我指的主要是丰田)。我对大众和沃尔沃的评价相当高,但现在跟现代和起亚不相上下。宝马(BMW)和梅塞德斯(Mercedes)生产的是豪华车(至少是高级车),开上10年后就没人想要了,就不考虑了。其次是标致、雪铁龙和雷诺/尼桑(法国车),其次是印度车(塔塔和马欣德拉)。排在印度汽车之后的才是中国车。
美国车呢?好吧,通用汽车撤离了,只剩下福特。考虑到福特汽车是用来自各地的零部件在当地组装的,我们也说不清它们到底是不是真正的美国车了。我把福特排在日本车之后,与大众和沃尔沃差不多。
Peter Kvint
That's because more engineer hours have been spent making a Chinese car than an American car.
An engineer in China gets paid during the training and gets the same pay as a worker.
Where an engineer in the USA himself must borrow for his education and therefore must be able to pay his debt with his salary.
There is therefore a shortage of engineers in the United States and a surplus of engineers in China.
这是因为工程师们花在制造中国车上的时间比制造美国车上的时间还要多。
中国的工程师在培训期间可以获得报酬,获得与工人同等的报酬。
而美国的工程师必须为自己的教育贷款,用工资来偿还债务。
因此,美国工程师短缺,中国工程师过剩。
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