Is Mexco more developed than China for always having a higher GDP per capita (nominal) until 2019? Why do many people view Mexco as a poor country?
在2019年之前,墨西哥的人均GDP一直高于中国,难道墨西哥比中国更发达吗?为什么许多人认为墨西哥是穷国
How is Mexco the “New China”?
墨西哥是“新的中国”吗?
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Qi Chen, Electrical Engineer (2017-present)
Question: Is Mexco more developed than China for always having a higher GDP per capita (nominal) until 2019? Why do many people view Mexco as a poor country?
Answer:
In a sense, China’s GDP is kinda of a mystery. No, this isn’t the “China overstated its GDP” as craved by many Americans. Just the opposite actually, having been to a lot of places around the world, China’s development and living standard is way higher than its GDP per capita would indicate, especially in high end education, R&D, public infrastructure, etc.
And no, PPP doesn’t fully explain it either. In fact, China’s ranking in GDP per capita by PPP is lower than its GDP per capita by nominal amount and living standard on the ground in countries with comparable GDP per capita isn’t anywhere near China’s level.
问:在2019年之前,墨西哥的人均GDP(名义上)一直高于中国,难道墨西哥就比中国更发达吗? 为什么许多人认为墨西哥是一个穷国
答: 从某种意义上说,中国的GDP有点神秘。许多美国人并不希望这样,说中国夸大了GDP。事实上恰恰相反,我去过世界上很多地方比起来,发现中国的发展和生活水平远远高于其人均GDP,特别是在高端教育、研发、公共基础设施等方面。
购买力平价也不能完全体现中国的发展水平。事实上,按购买力平价计算,其他人均国内生产总值旗鼓相当的国家,民众的生活水平也远不及中国。
Haoyu Wang
In 2020, the Chinese GDP (PPP) per capita was 20,984 PPP dollars.
This is in comparison to Mexco’s 21,363 PPP dollars.
As you can see, although many people view GDP per capita figures as being rigged for their lack of ability to take into account the cost of living, PPP figures do. And, as the figures suggest, Mexco still has a higher GDP per capita than China.
I think that when we are trying to assess whether a country is poor or not, we should not really be looking at the average level of GDP per capita or household income, but also take into consideration inequalities levels within the countries itself.
For many years, china has been portrayed as being prosperous etc. because all the pictures on the news that we would see often come from large cities, where the standard of living is certainly higher than most other cities in the world. This is in comparison to Mexco’s Mexco City.
Yet when you take a look at the rural villages located in china’s western area, you start to notice the difference.
2020年,按照购买力平价来衡量,中国的人均GDP是20984美元,与墨西哥21363美元的人均GDP大体相当
尽管许多人认为人均GDP数据没有考虑生活成本和物价,而PPP将这些考量纳入进来了。
正如数据显示的那样,墨西哥的人均GDP仍高于中国。
我认为,我们评估一个国家是否贫穷,不应该只看人均国内生产总值或家庭收入的平均水平,而应该考虑国家内部的不平等程度
多年来,中国一直被描绘成一个繁荣的国家,我们在新闻上看到的中国图片通常拍的是大城市,中国大城市民众的生活水平肯定比世界上大多数其他城市都要高。
然而,去中国西部地区的农村看看,你就会看到差距巨大
Sadrak Cina
Now China has more gdp per capita than Mexco
This is the photo of world map based on gdp per capita by imf
中国现在的人均GDP已经超过墨西哥
以下是IMF制作的世界GDP地图
As you seen that Mexco has gdp per capita lower than $10000 and China now has more than $10000
And the reason for other countries look Mexco as a poor country although has higher gdp than 10 european countries is that the Mexco GDP heavily influenced by this guy,
如你所见,墨西哥人均gdp低于1万美元,而中国人均GDP现在超过了1万美元
尽管墨西哥的gdp超过了10个欧洲国家,其他国家认为墨西哥很贫穷的原因是,墨西哥的gdp很大程度上受到了这个家伙的影响
译文来源:三泰虎 https://www.santaihu.com/p/51258.html
Carlos Slim, the richest person in Mexco. Carlos Slim has net worth $54 billion compared to Mexco GDP of $1,04 trillion dollar which make Carlos Slim make 4 percent of Mexco GDP although he is only 0,0000000078 percent of Mexco’s population so average gdp per capita without Carlos Slim and his wealth is $7664 dollar
卡洛斯·斯利姆,墨西哥首富。卡洛斯·斯利姆的净资产为540亿美元,而墨西哥的GDP为1.04万亿美元,也就是说卡洛斯·斯利姆的净资产占墨西哥GDP的4%,所以没有卡洛斯·斯利姆的话,墨西哥的人均GDP只有7664美元
Alexander Novikov
Because Mexco does not develop nearly as fast as China,
墨西哥的发展速度没有中国快。
David Liu, master Economics & History (2000)
higher per capita GDP is not equal to more developed/industrialized.
those second world countries like russia/East europe /china/north Korea are always much more industrialized than most 3Rd world countries like Mexco .
even when russia/china per capita GDP was less than Mexco in 1990s, rusdia/china could still produce many high~tech industry products that only most developed countries can master,such as spaceship/nuke~subs.
人均GDP更高,并不等于经济更发达,或者工业化程度更高
俄罗斯、东欧、中国和朝鲜等第二世界国家,工业化程度一直比墨西哥等第三世界国家高得多。
即便是1990年代,俄罗斯和中国的人均GDP比墨西哥更低的时候,俄罗斯和中国也能生产很多高科技工业产品,比如太空飞船和核潜艇
Ngee Kiat Low
If per capita are a measure of success and importance, Qatar, Liechenstein and Macau are world champions, all exceeding usd100000. They only reflect a small population. By now, economists realised that gdp on ppp basis is a better measure of influence and importance of an economy, and here China is world no 1 at usd28trillion.
如果用人均收入来衡量成功和重要性的话,卡塔尔、列支敦士登和澳门是世界冠军,人均收入都超过10万美元。这些地方只代表了一小部分人口。到目前为止,经济学家们意识到,以购买力平价为基础的gdp是衡量一个经济体影响力和重要性的更好方法,而中国以28万亿美元的gdp排名世界第一
Oscar Wright, BA from The University of Texas at El Paso (1976)
Let’s get one thing straight:
NO COUNTRY, all things considered, is more developed than China
Stats taken out of context to scaffold personal biases are useless
从各方面考虑,没有哪个国家比中国更发达。断章取义是没有用的
Jack Garbuz
With a per capita GDP of over $21,000 it is not that poor. That’s still 1/3rd the US, but it’s now considered a middle income country.
人均GDP2.1万美元,不算穷啦,相当于美国人均GDP的三分之一,可以被视为中等收入国家
David Terron
They want to see us that way, is their problem, we just live our lives.
他们怎么看我们墨西哥人,是他们自己的事,我们过好自己的生活就行
Henry Yeh, lives in Mexco
Slogans (by people who have been to neither country) aside, since I’ve lived in both countries, I can tell you that NO, Mexco will not become the “New China” (economically) unless there’re fundamental changes in its culture & politics. The economy of Latin America as a whole has stagnated, with personal wealth shrinking by as much as 6.5% (the only continent to see negative growth in that respect: even Africa is doing better).
这两个国家,我都待过。可以告诉你,答案是否定的。
除非文化和政治出现根本改变,否则墨西哥在经济上成为不了“新中国”
整个拉丁美洲的经济已经停滞不前,个人财富缩水了6.5%,拉丁美洲是唯一个人财富出现负增长的大陆,甚至非洲都做得比拉丁美洲更好
They say science & technology is the driving force behind modern economy. If so, then how much is Mexco investing in R&D vis-a-vis China? How much is Mexco (government & citizens alike) investing in STEM education, or education in general? More importantly, are Mexcan citizens embracing education with ACTION (not just answering “education is important” on questionnaires)?
有人说科学技术是现代经济背后的驱动力。真如此的话,那么墨西哥在研发方面的投入相对于中国,又是多少呢?
墨西哥政府体教育上投入了多少?
更重要的是,墨西哥公民是否主动接受教育
BTW, stop quoting the rotten GDP figures. GDP are not directly proportional to incomes. The average wage of Mexco is US$450, whereas that of China’s is US$910. Mexcan working class are being paid FAR below their productivity in a way that would make China look like a workers’ paradise.
顺便说一句,不要再引用糟糕的GDP数据了。GDP与收入不是成正比的。墨西哥的平均工资是450美元,而中国是910美元。墨西哥工人的工资太低了,与付出不成正比。相比起来,中国看起来像是工人的天堂。
Len Gould, I`ve read and studied economics for many years. Particularly interested in economics of energy, which I discu…
Mexco seems to be stagnating, e.g. it used to be the most wealthy Latin American economy by a large distance, but has now been overtaken by Chile and Uruguay.
墨西哥经济发展似乎停滞不前,比如墨西哥曾经是拉丁美洲最富裕的经济体,现在已被智利和乌拉圭超越了啊
The problem may be in the GINI index of comparative equality, higher percentage is less equality of incomes. Mexco 52.7, China 47.4, Chile 52.1. List of countries by income equality. For comparison USA index is 45, Canada is 32. So it looks like income equality doesn't show much difference between them.
问题可能在于衡量相对平等程度的基尼系数,百分比越高,收入平等程度就越低。墨西哥52.7,中国47.4,智利52.1。相比之下,美国指数是45,加拿大是32。看起来收入平等并没有显示出他们之间的很大差别。
Chen Xu, Engineer at Cannon (2011-present)
Any country, as long as there are wise leaders, and excellent government. Through the efforts of all the people, they can all develop very well.
任何国家,只要有明智的领导人,和优秀的政府。通过大家共同努力,都能发展得很好
Through unremitting efforts, they can usher in a revival. Like their ancestors, they established a great civilization. But that does not mean that it is a new China.
Maybe it will bring some shadow of China, but it is itself.
通过不懈的努力,才能迎来复兴。像他们的祖先一样,墨西哥也建立了伟大的文明。但这并不意味着墨西哥会是一个新的中国。
Mark Krause, Laboratory Director (2002-present)
It’s not, and it won’t be. Mexcans are very industrious but the political system is (and always has been) incredibly corrupt. That has held Mexco back, and it will continue to do so.
现在不是“新的中国”,将来也不会是。墨西哥人非常勤劳,但该国政治体制却极其腐败,一直如此。
这阻碍了墨西哥的发展,影响将一直持续下去
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