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美国商务部长雷蒙多表示,遏制中国技术进步“徒劳无益”,有些规定反而阻碍了美国竞争力

Raimondo Says Holding Back China in Chips Race Is a ‘Fool’s Errand’

雷蒙多表示,在芯片竞赛中遏制中国技术进步,是一个“愚蠢的错误”

WASHINGTON—Four years after the Biden administration made the race for chip manufacturing a top priority, Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo says efforts to restrict China’s access to technology hasn’t held back the country’s progress, and federal funding for domestic innovation is what will keep the U.S. ahead of Beiing.

在拜登政府把芯片制造竞赛作为重中之重四年后,美国商务部长吉娜·雷蒙多表示,限制中国获取技术的努力,并没有阻碍该国的进步,政府的资金支持,才是让美国保持领先于中国的原因。战胜中国的唯一办法就是保持领先。有些规定确实阻碍了美国的竞争力。

以下是各国网友的评论:

DaiWW

To be honest, I now believe the biggest reason why China can defeat the United States in the new cold war is that Chinese people are smarter than Americans. I know this may seem politically incorrect, but I increalingly believe it is the truth.

20 years ago, I had two master degrees from a top 20 universities in China and a top 5 university in the United States. At that time, I had a strong feeling that my Chinese classmates were smarter than my American classmates. Among my Chinese classmates, I encounter about one out of every ten who I consider to be 'very smart', but among my American classmates, I only know one but who is a Chinese from Beiing.

说实话,我现在认为中国能在新冷战中击败美国的最大原因是中国人比美国人聪明。我知道这在政治上可能看起来不正确,但我越来越相信这是事实。

20年前,我获得了中国前20名大学和美国前5名大学的硕士学位。当时,我有一种强烈的感觉,我的中国同学比我的美国同学聪明。在我的中国同学中,大约每十个人中就有一个我认为“非常聪明”,但在我的美国同学中,我只认识一个,而且他是来自北京的中国人。

In the past six years, we have seen that Americans have used everything possible, trade war, technology war, military threaten, propaganda war, diplomatic war.......Although they had caused China a lot of troubles, but none of them has real and long term effect. On the contrary, China has continuously achieved strategic victories in military, technology, manufacture, trade and other aspects fo hard power. Of course, this result can be attributed to many reasons, but I think the most essential reason is that the Chinese are smart enough to come up with the most reasonable ways to deal with the American attacks.

在过去的六年里,我们看到美国人使用了一切可能的手段,贸易战、技术战、军事威胁、宣传战、外交战。虽然这些措施给中国带来了很多麻烦,但都没有产生真正的长期影响。相反,中国在军事、技术、制造、贸易等硬实力方面不断取得战略胜利。当然,这一结果可以归因于许多原因,我认为最根本的原因是中国人足够聪明,能够见招拆招,想出最合理的方法来应对美国的攻击。

This is completely different from the old Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States. In the last Cold War, except in the Vietnam War, Americans were in a difficult position because of their arrogance. They were always in the upper hand. Americans created many traps and brought many troubles to the Soviet Union. They were constantly inspired by these small victories, and I believe they must have a sense of superiority in intelligence at that time. But in the Cold War with the China, they achieved literally nothing, I believe what they have now are just deep depression. This is alo why Americans are less and less interested in this cold war with China.

这与苏联和美国之间的旧冷战完全不同。在上一次冷战中,除了越南战争,美国人因傲慢而陷入困境,其他时候一直占上风。美国人制造了许多陷阱,给苏联带来了许多麻烦。他们一直受到这些小胜利的鼓舞,我相信他们当时一定有一种智力上的优越感。但在和中国的冷战中,他们几乎什么成就也没取得,我相信他们现在感到深深的沮丧。美国人对与中国的冷战,已经越来越不感兴趣

 

BBQ Chicken

What about Europeans? Same as Americans?

欧洲人呢?和美国人一样?

 

DaiWW

I have not had long-term contact with Europeans in work or study, but I guess Americans are about the same as Europeans, just like Chinese are about the same as Japanese and Koreans

我没有在工作或学习上与欧洲人有过长期接触,不过我想美国人和欧洲人差不多,就像中国人和日本人、韩国人差不多一样

 

Chockalingam

Chinese Bro: "but I increalingly believe it is the truth."

Lol. But it doesn't take sherlock to find that out. Almost everything tech and math in US is run by Chinese diaspora

中国兄弟:“我越来越相信这是事实。”

哈哈,但夏洛克不会发现的。美国几乎所有的科技和数学都是由中国侨民搞出来的

 

DaiWW

I don't live in a vacuum, and my cognition is obviously influenced by the political correctness of the United States. However, as I see more and more facts, I believe that truths are truths, whether they are correct or not.

我不是生活在真空中,我的认知显然受到美国政治正确性的影响。然而,随着我看到越来越多的事实,我相信真理就是真理,无论其是否正确。

 

Harald in China (Houthi Harry)

you sound more and more American with every tweet

从你的发帖来看,你越来越像美国人了

 

DaiWW

The United States has been a superpower for the past 100 years, what are the problems for China with Chinese becoming more and more like Americans? However, the Chinese have a higher moral starting point than the Americans, and we did not sell black slaves or slaughter native Indians.

在过去的100年里,美国一直是一个超级大国,随着中国人越来越像美国人,中国做错了什么了吗?然而,中国人比美国人的道德起点更高,我们没有贩卖黑奴或屠杀印第安人的历史。

 

Andreas

But where are the poor Manchus now?

但可怜的满洲人现在在哪里?

 

Jonathan Herz
I kind of agree with you but there will be no new Cold War. Idk I don’t find you “very intelligent” and am surprised you got into a top school. Generally Chinese students studying in America are socially isolated.

I do agree Chinese are on average smarter the Americans

我有点同意你的观点,但不会爆发新冷战。我觉得你“不太聪明”,很惊讶你居然能进入一所顶尖学校就读。一般来说,在美国留学的中国学生在社会上是孤立的。

我确实同意中国人平均比美国人聪明

 

DaiWW

lol, it is because you need a certain level of IQ and knowledge to fully understand what I post

哈哈,你需要一定的智商和知识,才能完全理解我发布的内容

 

Jonathan Herz
No. I got into a top U.S. college at the age of 16. Maybe geopolitics is just a hobby for you. There are some takes on Sino-middle eastern affairs that I subscribe to you for however your takes on US and U.S.-China are mid at best and not as good as other commentators. Sorry.

不,我16岁时进入了美国顶尖大学。也许讨论地缘政治是你的爱好。我赞同你对中国-中东事务的一些看法,但你对美国和中美问题的看法充其量是中庸之道,不如其他评论员说得好。

 

DaiWW

I've read some of your comments and I'm pretty sure you're not very smart. American universities cannot prove anything. I told you in the original post that I don't think there are many smart people in American universities in my standard.

我读过你的一些评论,确定你不是很聪明。进入美国大学就读,证明不了什么。

我说过,按照我的标准,我认为美国大学里没有很多聪明人。

 

Jonathan Herz
Cope. You used American universities to prove how smart you are. I don’t care what you think about me.

你用自己入读美国大学,证明自己有多聪明。我不在乎你怎么看我。

 

DaiWW

see, that is why I said you are not very smart. I clearly used my unversity experience to prove my Chinese classmates are smarter than my Americans classmates, it is not about me.

你看,我说你不是很聪明,没说错吧。我是以我在大学的经历,证明我的中国同学比我的美国同学聪明,与我聪不聪明无关。

 

Jonathan Herz
You are very insecure. If you want to improve as a “geopolitics commenter” you should think about what I’ve said. You’re obviously the one who is hurt. That happens when one has a false self-image. I am not impressed with your intelligence.

I’m going to mute you now, bye

你非常缺乏安全感。如果你想成为一名“地缘政治评论员”,你应该想想我说的话。显然你受伤了。自我形象受到破坏,就会发生这种情况。我不觉得你聪明。

 

Jonathan Herz
I doubt you really interacted much with Americans at your university.

我怀疑你在大学里真的和美国人互动过。

 

HereToMakeyouMARVEL

Smarter on maths does not mean you’re smart in life generally

数学水平好,并不意味着你在生活中聪明

 

Howard Chew

What would you know? Many Chinese diaspora including myself often wonder how and why Westerners are so ignorantly full of themselves. The answer? Arrogance makes them ignore and fail to understand others especially their chosen enemies and rivals.

你知道什么?包括我在内的许多中国侨民想知道,西方人怎么会如此无知,如此自以为是。答案?傲慢使他们忽视他人,无法理解他人,尤其是无法理解他们的敌人和对手。

 

C L

So long as the Chinese people r united behind the Central Government, China shall return to its position as World No. 1 whether American like it or not.

只要中国人民团结在中央政府的领导下,无论美国人喜欢与否,中国都将回到世界第一的位置。

 

albert3D

Finally, some words of wisdom from raimondo

雷蒙多终于说了几句智慧之言

 

I'm not blind

I’m an Anglo Saxon living in Beiing with Chinese wife with a masters degree. All evidence suggests you are right by a long way. For 20 years I’ve watched both cultures develop from Beiing. I’m terrified of leaving Beiing EVER!

我是一名居住在北京的盎格鲁撒克逊人,妻子是中国人,拥有硕士学位。所有证据都表明,你在很大程度上是说对了。20年来,我目睹了这两种文化。我害怕永远离开北京!

 

Simon Jester

Umm...no, we're not smarter. Or not born smarter, anyway. China awarded 1.38 million engineering bachelor’s degrees in 2020. The comparable American number is 197,000 (144,000 in engineering and 54,000 in computer science), or just one-seventh of China’s total.

不,我们并不聪明。或者不是天生聪明。2020年,中国颁发了138万个工程学士学位。美国的这一数据为19.7万(工程学为14.4万,计算机科学为5.4万),仅占中国总数的七分之一。

 

PT

This is stupid ! No race is smarter than other race. We work better as a collective being. If you talking about Chinese smarter then for how long ?

太愚蠢了!没有哪个种族比其他种族更聪明。我们最好作为一个集体工作。如果你说中国人更聪明,能聪明多久?

 

Denver Hoxha

Chinese have a far better education system. The American education system makes people illiterate.

Buying into views of inherent racial superiority and intelligence is accepting the Western metaphysical, non-material worldview that you claim to disavow.

中国人的教育体系要好得多。美国的教育体系把学生教成文盲。

接受固有的种族优越感和智慧的观点,就是接受你声称否认的西方形而上学、非物质世界观。

 

William Murphy

I experienced the same thing — as an American. It's been a lifetime of constant torment.

作为一个美国人,我也有同样的经历。这是一辈子的折磨。

 

RowenJBarrett

I know lots of Chinese students love to go to Top 5 GRADUATE schools in the US, not the smart ones, more or less mediocre! And US graduate schools love Chinese students not because of their IQ, but their tuition. In that case, I believe Americans are smarter!

我知道很多中国学生喜欢去美国排名前五的研究生院!美国研究生院喜欢中国学生不是因为他们的智商高,而是因为他们交的学费多。这么看来,我相信美国人更聪明!

 

Zurvan

Their evil deeds just made China stronger and more independent. Moreover the backstabbing to their allies by blowing Germany's North Stream Pipeline 2 and the genocide they committed openly live for the world in Palestine, just showed the world and Global South, they hate US!

他们的恶行只会逼得中国更强大、更独立。此外,炸毁德国的北溪2号管道,对盟友进行暗中破坏,以及他们在巴勒斯坦公开犯下的种族灭绝罪行,向世界和全球南方国家表明,大家憎恨美国!

 

RC
Almost all the posts from the USA are often just downright stupid. Even from notable people!!! The average posts from China, both in English and Chinese are of a much higher quality; exhibiting more nuance and grasp of detail.

几乎所有美国的帖子,质量都不敢恭维,即使是名人的帖子!而中国网友发帖子,不管是中文帖子,还是英文帖子,质量要高得多;展现出更多的细微差别和对细节的把握。

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