India-Russia Eye Joining Hands To Manufacture SU-57 Stealth Fighter Jet | Make In India
印度与俄罗斯着眼携手制造苏-57隐形战斗机,推动 “印度制造”
As India prepares to showcase the Su-57 at Aero India 2025, this moment is a defining chapter in the nation’s defence narrative. With its own fifth-generation fighter jet program on the horizon, New Delhi is no longer just reacting to external threats; it is taking the reins of its defence future. The Su-57 is more than a fighter jet; it is the cornerstone of our defence strategy, paving the way for a self-sufficient, technologically advanced, and battle-ready India. The skies above South Asia are about to look a lot different.
随着印度准备在2025年印度航展上展示苏57战斗机,这一时刻将成为该国国防发展历程中的关键篇章。鉴于印度自身的第五代战斗机项目即将问世,新德里已不再仅仅被动应对外部威胁,而是开始掌控本国国防的未来。苏57战斗机不仅仅是一款战机,它更是印度国防战略的基石,为实现一个自给自足、技术先进且随时能投入战斗的印度铺平道路。南亚上空的局势即将大为不同。
近日,随着俄罗斯的一架苏-57E型隐身战斗机飞抵印度班加罗尔,耶拉汉卡空军基地,准备参加2025年印度航空展。印度《欧亚时报》也专门刊文,对印度是否会购买俄罗斯的苏-57E型隐身战斗机进行了分析。
印媒认为,中国目前正在不断扩大第五代隐身战斗机的产能。等到5年之后,也就是2030年时,中国预计将拥有300架歼-20隐身战斗机。此外,中国空军也将拥有数量不少的歼-35A隐身战斗机。
所以,印度如果想要应对中巴空军所带来的隐身战斗机压力,那么重新购买俄罗斯的苏-57E隐身战斗机,就是一个很好的选择。
以下是印度网友的评论:
kvsnmurthy8900
Very good decision, India should be more powerful to counter china and pakistan and Bangladesh same time
这决定太棒了,印度就得变得更强,这样才能同时对付中国、巴基斯坦和孟加拉国。
cosmoray9750
Joint production is a good thing.
F-35 comes with string attached.
Russia is a more reliable partner. Recently another F-35 Crashed in Alaska.
" F-35 crashes at Eielson Air Force Base in Alaska as pilot ejects safely "
联合生产这事儿挺不错的。买F35的话,会附带一堆条件,事儿多。俄罗斯才是更靠谱的伙伴。最近又有架F - 35在阿拉斯加坠毁了。新闻还说 “F - 35在阿拉斯加埃尔森空军基地坠毁,飞行员安全弹射”。
kaliswaran5880
India should buy F35.F35 IS Better than su 57
印度就该买F35啊,F35比苏57好多了。
AnoNymous-i1o
Trump: take back your 18000 people
India: Fine, we will buy the jets from Russia
特朗普说:“把你们那18000人弄回去。”
印度回怼:“行啊,那我们就从俄罗斯买战机。”
defence3355
This has nothing to do with illegal deportees
这跟非法驱逐人员有啥关系啊。
kaliswaran5880
India should buy F35.F35 IS Better than su 57
印度就该买F35,F35就是比苏57强。
Scrooge1Percenter
Joint Production is a cool idea!
联合生产,这想法挺酷啊!
kvsnmurthy8900
We should immediately consider Su_57. Should focus on 5th generation fighters
咱得马上考虑苏 - 57,得把精力放在五代战机上。
masudmolla627
there is 100 tejas engine order by india with america but no one piece of that engine come to India
And otherside Russia have a strong relationship with india
印度向美国订了100台光辉战机的发动机,结果一台都没拿到手。再看看俄罗斯,跟咱印度关系多铁啊。
kaliswaran5880
@masudmolla627 now America join with India in weapons deal. So this time more chance America will give F35 fighter gets to india
@masudmolla627 现在美国跟印度有武器交易,所以这次美国很可能会把F35卖给印度。
babahanuman83
that would be wonderful for both countries imho. winwin.
要我说,这对两国来说都是大好事儿,双赢啊。
kaliswaran5880
India should buy F35.F35 IS Better than su 57
印度就该买F35,F35比苏57好。
ANONYMOUSWARRIOR-mn5le
Give the MRFA contact to Russia for 150 SU 57 with AL51 F1 engine and 2D THRUST NOZZLES and MAKE IN INDIA WITH FULL TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER TO BHARAT which will fill the gap of the depleting squadrons of IAF and also assure of future backup in case of 3 front war against China, pakistan and bangladesh. Russia is a war tested friend of Bharat so the deal will be smooth and without much terms and conditions like the hypocrite USA.
跟俄罗斯签中型多用途战斗机(MRFA)合同,买150架带AL51 - F1发动机和二维推力矢量喷管的苏57,然后在印度生产,让俄罗斯把技术都转让给咱印度。这样就能填补印度空军不断减少的中队数量缺口,要是跟中国、巴基斯坦和孟加拉国三线开战,也有后备力量。俄罗斯可是咱印度久经战火考验的朋友,这交易肯定顺顺利利,不像美国那伪君子,一堆条条框框。
The_Seraphim7
Tot is a must!!!.....but then again hal is pretty useless.....we had tot for su30mki from years but they haven't learned a thing from that plane!!!
技术转让绝对有必要!!!但话说回来,印度斯坦航空有限公司(HAL)太不给力了。这么多年,苏30MKI都有技术转让,结果他们啥都没学到!
misterbig9025
I don't understand! We still haven't mass produced HAL Tejas. 80% Tejas components are imported from Israel, UK and USA.
我就搞不懂了!印度斯坦航空的光辉战机到现在都还没量产。光辉战机80% 的部件都是从以色列、英国和美国进口的。
masudmolla627
We to made 5th generation fighter plane with Russia
咱得跟俄罗斯一起造五代战机。
Political-Me
Tejas fighter jet has that stealth avionics capabilities that it can take down any 6th Gen fighter jets the thing is Indian gov is not revealing it due to confidentiality issues I have worked in HAL I know it's capabilities we do mot need foreign engines and aircrafts our scientists are capable enough to develop and manufacture these kind of aircraft in India we are an Independent India
光辉战机的航电系统具备隐身能力,能把任何六代战机都打下来。只不过印度政府出于保密考虑没公开罢了。我在印度斯坦航空工作过,知道它的能耐。咱不需要外国发动机和飞机,咱们印度科学家有能力在国内研发制造这类飞机,咱印度是个独立自主的国家。
defence3355
We need su57 because usa won't sell f35
美国不卖F35,所以咱们需要苏57。
mburumbaappolus6728
Trump just had 110 Indian citizens rounded up, shackled and put on a 40-hour flight from California to India in a USAF C-17 transport plane. That just shows what the USA thinks of India and her people!!!
特朗普刚把110名印度公民抓起来,铐上手铐,用美国空军的C - 17运输机从加州运到印度,飞了40个小时。这就看得出美国是怎么看待印度和印度人民的!
crazyhorse1771
He's also talked about applying 100% tariffs on BRICS nations.
他还说要对金砖国家征收100% 的关税呢。
Brotherking8645
My friend, Russia - India cooperation will nock the bully down. India should get serious and go with Russia coz they're reliable and they deliver on their promises unlike the big mouth on the other side
朋友,俄罗斯和印度合作能把那些恶霸打倒。印度得认真对待,跟俄罗斯合作,因为俄罗斯靠谱,说话算话,不像另一边那家伙只会吹牛。
ANKITSINHA1
they were criminals
那些人是罪犯。
ViktorTyagi
It is good, beautiful and cheap
这事儿挺好,飞机好看还便宜。
PsyRox1112
India also doing the same, bleeding Russia with resources, once a critical point is achieved, its time for technology transfers.
印度也一样,消耗俄罗斯的资源,等达到某个关键点,就该技术转让了。
Mr_Logician
There need to be joint military cooperation between Russia, India and China to protect Asia, similar to NATO protection of Europe.
俄罗斯、印度和中国需要开展联合军事合作来保卫亚洲,就像北约保卫欧洲那样。
rozbehmajidzada1035
Good job you have good fighter and cheaper in production then f35
干得好,这战机不错,生产成本还比F35低。
laikahmed6298
India doesn't need to waste money it has the flying samosa tejas.
印度没必要浪费钱,咱有 “会飞的萨莫萨三角饺”(调侃光辉战机)—— 光辉战机呢。
vyomtiwari2718
F-35 Lightning II although more stealth but Su-57 stealth, agile, maneuvere, supersonic, twin engine And cheap....order 150 - 200 asap
F - 35闪电II型虽说隐身性更好,但苏 - 57也有隐身能力,还灵活、机动性强、能超音速飞行,还是双发,而且便宜…… 赶紧订150 - 200架。
revolutionary5577
Good suggestion but I am afraid that Uncle Sam will pressure India to buy from them and not from Russia. Above all, Mr. Trump and our beloved Modiji are fast friends. So you have to respect friendship
建议不错,但我就怕山姆大叔会给印度施压,让印度从他们那儿买,而不是从俄罗斯买。毕竟,特朗普先生和我们敬爱的莫迪先生可是铁哥们儿。所以还得顾及这交情啊。
airaction6423
If I was the russian government I would not share the su57 with anyone but this is my opinion
要是我是俄罗斯政府,我不会跟任何人分享苏57,不过这只是我的看法。
liuxan558
I just prey that Indian Govt. is not dumb or corrupt enough to waste money on this plane. Even Russians have not used this plane in a fight.
我就祈祷印度政府别蠢到或者腐败到把钱浪费在这飞机上。俄罗斯人自己都没在实战中用过这飞机。
Felipe-n3j
Russia don’t trust India anymore!
俄罗斯再也不信任印度了!
airaction6423
The SU57 should never be shared. Joining production would be madness
苏57绝对不该共享,联合生产简直是疯了。
SREEJUSv
Why???what makes you think that??...even after the western sanction threats India stands with Russia....... during the su57 development....india and russia were the partners of that project...but later india withdrawal from that... because indian airforce found that it has not met any of the requirements of indian airforce
为啥?你为啥这么觉得?即便面临西方制裁威胁,印度还是跟俄罗斯站在一起…… 在苏57研发期间,印度和俄罗斯是这个项目的合作伙伴…… 但后来印度退出了,因为印度空军发现它不符合印度空军的任何要求。
samhan1929
Can India make something by indigenous instead of buying from other counties, so sad.
印度就不能自己造点东西,非得从别的国家买,太悲哀了。
zulfikarmomin478
Bangladesh will Join INDIA currently India is interferring in Bangladesh Political Affair Openly
孟加拉国会加入印度,现在印度正大张旗鼓地干涉孟加拉国内政呢。
S.Ku123
F 35 good for india, I don't want see agen abhinandan in pakistan
F35对印度来说挺好,我可不想再看到像阿比南丹(注:曾被巴基斯坦俘虏的印度飞行员)那样的事儿发生。
B_I_N_G_0
No, buying SU-57 is not a valuable idea because of china which, in turn has SU-57 technology and might know its weekness.
不行,买苏57不是个好主意,因为中国有苏57的技术,可能知道它的弱点。
JohnnyRotten-uf6xw
India can improve exsting tech.
印度可以改进现有技术。
airaction6423
I agree and I put you a like. SU57 must stay in Russia only
我同意,给你点个赞。苏57就该只留在俄罗斯。
Republicnews-h3v
Russia fought top weapons of many states in this war, weapons like storm shadow, javelins and others, russia was not quick to escalate it initially and in the mid, time is of essense, Nato top weapons were involved, resolution should be found soon, Russia still not escalating it and taking damages
在这场战争中,俄罗斯对抗了许多国家的顶尖武器,像 “风暴阴影” 导弹、“标枪” 导弹之类的。一开始和中期,俄罗斯都没有急于升级冲突,时间很关键,北约的顶尖武器都掺和进来了,得尽快找到解决方案。俄罗斯仍然没有扩大冲突,但一直在承受损失。
sibusisotshabalala3662
Please stop saying make in India it's assembled in india nothing is made in India not even iphones
别再提 “印度制造” 了,明明就是在印度组装,啥东西都不是印度造的,就连苹果手机都不是。
karansuri1576
Look at what is happening to indians in america
看看在美国的印度人都遭遇了什么。
phanikumar4402
Its soo stealthy that it doesn't even fly. F 22 and F 35 are the no 1 jets in the world....there's no match for US in defence tech...US always king of the world
这飞机隐身到都飞不起来了。F22和F35才是世界顶级战机。在国防技术方面,美国天下无敌。美国永远是世界霸主。
PedroBritto-z6h
You government is like a house wife who orders breakfast to dinner on line, what happens for last 10years made in india india the baby is made by Pakistan but india does the christening given Indian birth certificate
你们政府就像个家庭主妇,一日三餐都在网上点。过去10年 “印度制造” 怎么样呢,东西是巴基斯坦造的,印度却来给它洗礼,还发个印度出生证明
AlphaBeta007
MRFA: su57M vs Rafael f4?
Who can offer more local contents, avionics and weapons etc. should win it.
中型多用途战斗机(MRFA)项目:苏57M和阵风F4哪个强?
谁能提供更多本土制造内容、航电设备和武器等,谁就应该中标。
sujoyghosh5880
SUKHOI Corporation's Senior Test Pilot Sergei Bogdan aged 62, who mesmerised and enthralled the Spectators with his spectacular and breath taking maneuvers in Shanghai, in the recent past must take the Sukhoi 57 for a spin in Bengaluru.
苏霍伊公司62岁的资深试飞员谢尔盖·博格丹,之前在上海以精彩绝伦、令人惊叹的飞行机动动作,迷倒了观众,他肯定得在班加罗尔驾驶苏57炫一把。
mdtanvirahamed654
It's can't be possible anymore. China was also interested manufacturing su57 but Russia can't allow it. We know that china russia friendship is bigger than India russia friendship. So Russia can't allow manufacturing su57 in india.
这事儿不可能了。中国之前也对生产苏57感兴趣,但俄罗斯没答应。咱们都知道中俄友谊比印俄友谊更深厚,所以俄罗斯不会允许在印度生产苏57。
abhinavkumar6054
We are lagging behind major powers in aviation technology, this needs to be addressed with utmost sincerity.
Buying su-57 will only be temporary relief, self reliance is what we need.
我们在航空技术方面落后于大国,必须得认真对待这个问题。
买苏57只是暂时缓解一下,我们需要的是自力更生。
rasputin6190
Transfer of Technology and local manufacturing of this aircraft will surely help HAL to develop AMCA
这架飞机的技术转让和本土制造肯定能帮助印度斯坦航空有限公司(HAL)研发先进中型战斗机(AMCA)。
NarenHYD
India should not buy su 57 as Russia had backstabbed us while develo this jet jointly and now it wants to sell same jet for higher price.
印度不该买苏57,当初联合研发这战机的时候俄罗斯就坑过我们,现在还想高价卖给我们。
RanjeethMD
You can't have peace without strength. There is a reason a lion doesn't attack an elephant. Or a Shark doesn't attack a whale.
没有实力就没有和平。狮子不攻击大象,鲨鱼不攻击鲸鱼,都是有原因的。
badbad - cat
Forget the western circus. Order Russia's fifth gen fighters including local manufacturing and tech transfer. Russia is the only country which will provide us all that, and Russia is the only country on which we can rely
别管西方那些闹剧了。向俄罗斯订购五代战机,包括本土制造和技术转让。俄罗斯是唯一能给我们提供这些的国家,也是我们唯一能依靠的国家。
SDM496
@badbad - cat if India wanted su57 then why did India come out of the program 7 yrs ago? Why did India buy Rafael? Indian procurement of aircrafts is all messed up. No clarity, no strategy, no foresight.
@badbad - cat 如果印度想要苏57,那7年前为什么退出这个项目?为什么要买阵风战机?印度的飞机采购全乱套了,没个清晰规划,没战略,没远见。
rasputin6190
@SDM496 Things have changed. IAF has recommended 40 changes and modifications in su57 7 years ago, which Russia has successfully done more than half of the modifications as per the requirement of IAF.
@SDM496 情况变了。7年前印度空军就对苏57提出了40项改进建议,俄罗斯已经按照印度空军的要求成功完成了一半以上的改进。
SDM496
unfortunately su57 has done nothing in Ukraine war. Does it have the capability to bomb Kiev? No. It cannot enter Ukrainian air defense undetected. Then what's the point of having it in Indian air force?
不幸的是,苏57在乌克兰战争中没发挥什么作用。它有能力轰炸基辅吗?没有。它无法在不被发现的情况下进入乌克兰防空区域。那印度空军要它有什么用呢?
krishna_Bharath
NO SU - 57 or F35 for India. Speed up AMCA, TEDBF, Tejas 2. Also speed up Kaveri 2 engine with or without the collaboration of a Foreign partner. Make this projects comes under PMO so that they can be monitored more effectively.
印度别买苏 - 57,也别买F35。加快先进中型战斗机(AMCA)、双发舰载战斗机(TEDBF)和光辉2战机的研发。无论有没有外国合作伙伴,都要加快卡弗里2发动机的研发。把这些项目都归到总理办公室管辖,这样就能更有效地监督了。
toothlessseer3153
So all the supporters of buying the Su - 57 have not realized that the Russian Air Force cannot even achieve air dominance over tiny Ukraine?
所以那些支持购买苏 - 57的人难道没意识到,俄罗斯空军甚至都无法在小小的乌克兰取得制空权吗?
kmathew5712
Forget self - reliance...hasn't worked in 65 years...first buy 3 squadrons of Gripen, then buy 3 squadrons of Eurofighter, then buy 3 squadrons of rafale, then buy 4 SQUADRONS f15 and F16 EAGLES....after that shut down HAL and privatize Tejas...then watch how everything falls in place.
别提自力更生了! 65年了都没搞出什么名堂,先买3个中队的鹰狮战机,再买3个中队的欧洲战斗机,接着买3个中队的阵风战机,然后买4个中队的F15和F16 “战鹰”,之后关停印度斯坦航空有限公司(HAL),把光辉战机项目私有化,然后就等着看一切步入正轨吧。
toothlessseer3153
What compete nonsense!
1. The Su - 57 is hardly a stealth fighter. It's radar signature is WORSE than the US's original stealth bomber of 45 years ago!
2. The Su - 57 fighter is barely in production in Russia (just THIRTY in service) compared to hundreds of Chinese Mighty Dragons and THOUSANDS of American F - 35s.
3. Remember India already spent a few billion dollars trying to co - produce stealth jets with Russia before pulling out about 8 years ago
4. Russian engines are dreadful in terms of quality (which is why most of India's Russian fighters are in maintenance mode most of the time)
5. Russia is planning on using Chinese engines for its Su - 57. For its improved versions. Something India would not get OR dare use
6. There is ZERO chance of GE allowing India to use its F404 or F414 engines on the Su - 57 Indian version
7. IF India is ever MAD ENOUGH to try to produce the Su - 57, expect the US to stop collaborating with India in defense production.
Remember, the main reason that India was not offered the F - 35 was because it bought the S - 400 anti - missile system from Russia, which turned out to be a *TOTAL DUD*.
简直一派胡言!
1. 苏 - 57根本算不上是隐形战机。它的雷达信号特征比45年前美国最初的隐形轰炸机还差!
2. 俄罗斯苏 - 57战机的产量少得可怜(仅有30架服役),相比之下,中国有数百架 “猛龙” 战机,美国有数千架F - 35战机。
3. 别忘了,印度大约8年前退出与俄罗斯联合生产隐形战机项目之前,已经花了几十亿美元。
4. 俄罗斯发动机的质量糟透了(这就是为什么印度大多数俄制战机大部分时间都在维修)。
5. 俄罗斯计划为改进版的苏 - 57使用中国发动机。这种好事印度可捞不着,也不敢用。
6. 通用电气(GE)绝对不可能允许印度在印度版苏 - 57上使用其F404或F414发动机。
7. 如果印度真敢疯狂到试图生产苏 - 57,就等着美国停止与印度在国防生产方面的合作吧。
记住,印度没拿到F - 35的主要原因是它从俄罗斯买了S - 400防空导弹系统,结果这玩意儿完全是个 “废物”。
Ash_xtreme03
People who are saying this jet inferior to F22/F35. Yes even if its inferior, it is enough to counter Chinese J20 & J35. So it will be a good stopgap until AMCA is ready.
有人说这战机不如F22 / F35。没错,就算它性能差点,但用来对付中国的歼20和歼35也够了。所以在先进中型战斗机(AMCA)准备好之前,它会是个不错的权宜之计。
gutsy3597
F - 21 is best suited to fulfill IAFs future requirement and LM is ready to have final assembly line in India giving boost to make in India
F21最适合满足印度空军未来的需求,洛克希德·马丁公司(LM)也准备在印度设立总装生产线,这对 “印度制造” 是个推动。
delldell191
Will the SU57 be better or at least as good as the F35 lightning? We are already used to the quality of Russian war materials. S400, S500, orechnik, and gor the Su57. impenetrable air defenses, achieved by $500 drones, and those that may, in the near future, be completed by training aircraft at flying clubs.
苏57会比F35闪电战机好,或者至少跟它一样好吗?我们已经习惯了俄罗斯武器装备的质量。像S400、S500、“铠甲 - S”(Orekh),还有苏57。号称坚不可摧的防空系统,结果被500美元的无人机突破,而且在不久的将来,说不定连飞行俱乐部的训练飞机都能突破。
chaosland5325
India is taking too much time to decide. They should just accept to buy and build this aircraft. China is already testing 6th gen. India still can't decide what to do next
印度做决定也太磨叽了。他们就该直接答应购买并制造这款飞机。中国都已经在测试六代机了。印度还在纠结下一步该干啥。
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