India VS ASEAN: Why do Indians feel they are more advanced than Southeast Asia?

印度与东盟：为何印度人觉得自己比东南亚更发达？

印度尼西亚，这个东南亚最大的经济体，在2023年的经济表现再次令人瞩目。其GDP总量不仅刷新了历史记录，更在全球经济版图中占据了重要的一席之地。印尼的经济成功并非偶然，而是得益于其独特的人口红利、丰富的自然资源以及多元化的经济结构

作为世界上人口第四多的国家，印尼拥有庞大的国内市场和充足的劳动力资源。这为印尼的经济发展提供了坚实的基石。与此同时，印尼在农业、矿业、制造业以及服务业等多个领域都取得了显著的发展。特别是在近年来，印尼政府高度重视数字经济的发展，积极推动基础设施建设，这进一步提升了印尼的经济竞争力。

泰国作为东南亚地区的经济强国之一，在2023年的经济表现同样令人印象深刻。其GDP总量达到了5135亿美元，位列东南亚第二。泰国的经济以其稳定性和多样性著称，制造业、旅游业和农业三大支柱共同支撑起了国家的经济大厦。

新加坡，这个国土面积狭小的城市国家，却在经济发展上创造了令人惊叹的奇迹。新加坡是东南亚最发达的经济体之一。其经济以金融、科技、航运和贸易为主导，拥有高度发达的服务业和创新能力强的高科技产业。

以下是印度网友的评论：

goonhoongtatt1883
Are u kidding? Almost every ASEAN country has higher living standards than India.

你逗我呢？几乎每个东盟国家的生活水平都比印度高啊。

indi
@goonhoongtatt1883 Please, nearly every ASIAN country is better than India. South Asian countries in general make the rest of us thriving Asians look bad. Can you think of a bigger gap in development than East Asia vs South Asia? It's not even comparable. South Asia is closer to Africa in development terms than to clean, rich, advanced East Asia.

@goonhoongtatt1883 拜托，几乎每个亚洲国家都比印度强。南亚国家总体上让我们这些发展得蒸蒸日上的亚洲国家跟着蒙羞。还有比东亚和南亚发展差距更大的吗？这根本没法比啊。从发展程度上说，南亚跟干净、富裕、发达的东亚比起来，倒更像是非洲的水平。

sailingadventurer
ASEAN gdp is 3.8 trillion dollars with 670 million people. Indian gdp is 3.7 trillion dollars with 1.4 billion people

东盟6.7亿人口，GDP是3.8万亿美元；印度14亿人口，GDP才3.7万亿美元。

cscsp
An accurate depiction of the Indian character.

这对印度人的特点概括得挺准啊。

andundilan - g2y
Please make a video about how India steals fish from the neighboring countries like Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Maldives and then how they cry out loud when their tresspassers have been shot or arrested by these countries

讲讲印度怎么从孟加拉国、斯里兰卡和马尔代夫这些邻国偷鱼，然后他们那些越界的人被这些国家开枪或者抓了的时候，又怎么大喊大叫的。

JV - ds8zm
Indian is the best comedian clown show ever.

印度简直就是最绝的滑稽小丑闹剧。

privilegedindiansrworsthum8408
Thats true & 80% of them don't realize this

确实是这样，而且八成印度人都没意识到这一点。

PriyaK - cu1fz
Says a cartoon with no knowledge of indian laws or constitution.

这话也就一个对印度法律和宪法啥都不懂的家伙能说出来。

majimakiriyu4872
As an Indian It is completely true here.Running from truth will hurt India more than u think

我作为一个印度人，觉得这里说的太对了。逃避现实对印度的伤害可比你想象的大多了。

BabaYaga826
Indonesians shouldn't be angry at Indians at all. Everyone knows India good at talk big only.

印尼人压根儿就不该生印度人的气。谁不知道印度人就会吹牛皮啊。

ridhadarmawan8888
nope, We won't be angry. We are having lots of work to do in terms of infrastructure (highways, railways, Health facility, Education facility) to boost further investment.

不气，我们不气。我们在基础设施建设（公路、铁路、医疗设施、教育设施）方面还有好多事儿要做，这样才能吸引更多投资呢。

AIPretendingToBeHuman
GDP of ASEAN in 2023 was 3.8 Trillion with a population of 677 million, GDP of India in 2023 was 3.5 Trillion with a population of 1.43 billion. GDP of Singapore in 2023 was 501 Billion, with a population of 6 million.

2023年，东盟6.77亿人口，GDP 3.8万亿美元；印度14.3亿人口，GDP 3.5万亿美元。2023年新加坡600万人口，GDP就有5010亿美元。

kushagravlogs5627
Indian prime minister Modi claimed that India will get developed country status by 2047. Although India's per capita income is lower than many African countries

印度总理莫迪宣称印度到2047年要成为发达国家。可印度的人均收入比好多非洲国家都低呢。

kushagravlogs5627
Indian prime minister Modi claimed that India will lead in 6 g technology. Although Indian patents in 6g are zero.

印度总理莫迪还宣称印度要在6G技术领域领先。可印度在6G方面的专利数是零啊。

印度总理莫迪在好多场合都说印度要在半导体领域领先。但印度根本就没有专业的工程师和技术工人啊。

印度总理莫迪宣称印度要成为人工智能领域的超级大国。但印度在研发上投入的资金少得可怜。

MrHunzi
None of this matters. What matters is that more than a billion people are willing to believe this clown

这些都不重要。关键是有十几亿人还愿意相信这个小丑说的话。

ZweiZwolf
India Superpower 2020!
Seems like it's never going to happen. But still a lot of talk. Meanwhile, ASEAN works with China and just keeps moving ahead.

印度2020年成为超级大国！

感觉这事儿永远也实现不了。但他们还是成天吹。与此同时，东盟跟中国合作，一直稳步向前发展。

dragonbane44
India's rate of growth of per capita GDP has been very high for a large economy at 3.9% in the last decade from 2014 - 23. For South and South East Asia it was 2.90%.

在2014 - 2023这十年间，对于印度这样的大型经济体来说，其人均GDP增长率高达3.9%，表现相当不错。而南亚和东南亚地区的平均增长率是2.90%。

India is ranked 6th in 6G patent filings, and mind you, India started late but is progressing very fast, already surpassing countries like Germany, France, UK but admittedly far behind China and US. Calling India's achievement in 6G as zero is pure disingenuousness.

印度在6G专利申请数量上排名第六。要知道，印度起步晚，但发展很快，已经超过了德国、法国、英国这些国家，不过确实跟中美两国比差距还很大。说印度在6G方面毫无成就，这纯粹是睁眼说瞎话。

Again India started very late in semiconductor but better late than never. And India does have potential to be a manufacturing leader in semiconductor in coming decade. Also, it is a false statement that India does not have skilled engineers and workers. India has one of the largest pools of skilled professionals. About 20 percent of the world's semiconductor design engineers are based in India.

再说，印度在半导体领域起步也很晚，但晚做总比不做强。而且未来十年，印度确实有潜力成为半导体制造领域的领军者。说印度没有专业的工程师和技术工人，这也是不实言论。印度拥有庞大的专业人才库。全球大约20%的半导体设计工程师都在印度。

India has relatively low AI budget when compared to advanced countries but ranks 12th in AI research contribution in the midst of other advanced countries like Israel, Japan, Italy, Netherlands etc. Still far better than ASEAN countries combined.

跟发达国家比起来，印度在人工智能方面的预算相对较低，但在人工智能研究贡献方面，印度在以色列、日本、意大利、荷兰等发达国家中排名第12位。这可比东盟国家加起来都强多了。

When arguments like your are based on weak foundations, they are easy to break apart. India has a lot of problems but the Modi government setting ambitious target and trying to work towards it is not one of them.

像你这种立论根基不牢的观点，很容易就被驳倒。印度确实有很多问题，但莫迪政府设立宏伟目标并努力为之奋斗，这一点可没错。

Drax - pb5nu
India has over 186 6g technology patents
And India's first semiconductor plant is opening in 2025 december

印度有超过186项6G技术专利。

而且印度第一家半导体工厂将于2025年12月投产。

Drax - pb5nu
World 25 percent semiconductor designers are from India

全球25%的半导体设计师来自印度。

twilight6460
India is forever a country of the future where the future never arrives

印度永远是个活在未来的国家，可这个未来永远也不会到来。

kushagravlogs5627
Chip designer by country
America - 32%
China - 28%
India - 19%
Most of Indian chip designer do low level work for American companies. Chinese chip designer are designing 3 nm chips. While Indian chip designers are designing 28 nm legacy chips

各国芯片设计师占比

美国 - 32%
中国 - 28%
印度 - 19%

大多数印度芯片设计师都在给美国公司做底层工作。中国芯片设计师都在研发3纳米芯片了，而印度芯片设计师还在搞28纳米的传统芯片。

kushagravlogs5627
6 g patents by country
China - 40.3%
United States - 35.2%
Japan - 9.9%
Europe - 8.9%
South korea - 4.2%
India - 1.5%
How is India leading in 6G patents?
Don't give excuses of latecomer.

各国6G专利占比

中国 - 40.3%
美国 - 35.2%
日本 - 9.9%
欧洲 - 8.9%
韩国 - 4.2%
印度 - 1.5%

印度怎么就6G专利领先了？

别拿起步晚当借口。

ZweiZwolf
China's economy is SIX times larger than India's, and they are meeting ecological growth targets of 5 + % annually. When China was focused on fast growth, they peaked at 15%, averaging over 10% for over a decade. India has never even hit 10%, and averages less than 7% over a 10 - year term, despite how small their economy currently is.

中国经济规模是印度的六倍，而且中国每年都能实现5%以上的生态增长目标。中国经济高速发展的时候，增长率峰值达到15%，而且十多年来平均增长率都超过10%。印度经济增长率从来没到过10%，过去十年平均增长率都不到7%，就它现在这经济规模还这么低。

You talk about Indian 6G and chips, when nobody in the world outside of India would buy them from India when Chinese or other East Asian alternatives exst. The very idea of India assembling anything in a 'clean room' is laughable.

你还说印度的6G和芯片，可除了印度人，世界上其他人只要有中国或其他东亚国家的产品可选，根本不会买印度货。印度还想在“无尘室”里组装东西，这想法简直可笑。

Also, there's no such thing as "South Asia", when the Indian subcontinent 'south OF Asia' is separated from the Eurasian landmass by the Himalayas. It's like pretending Africa is part of Europe, or Africa is "South Europe" because it's 'south OF Europe'.

还有，根本就不存在“南亚”这个说法，印度次大陆，也就是亚洲以南的地方，被喜马拉雅山脉和欧亚大陆隔开了。这就好比硬要说非洲是欧洲的一部分，或者因为非洲在欧洲以南，就说非洲是“南欧”一样荒谬。

biggpicture2930
Hindus stuck in the ancient world.

印度教徒还活在古代呢。

Shailendra Singh
Is human sacrifice still practiced in India?
Hold your breath. I have been a witness to such incident and can say with certainty that human sacrifice in India still exsts as a ritual.
I am not talking about stray incidents of human sacrifice here and there by some 'tantriks' aur 'aughads'. This is about a ritual which needs one human sacrifice every year. The incident is from 21st century and occurred only 100 kilometres away from Ranchi, the capital of Jharkhand.

印度现在还存在活人祭祀吗？

你可得坐稳了。我亲眼见过这种事，所以能肯定地说，活人祭祀在印度仍然作为一种仪式存在。

我可不是说那些个别“苦行者”或“修行者”偶尔搞的活人祭祀。我说的是每年都要进行一次活人祭祀的仪式。这事儿就发生在21世纪，离贾坎德邦首府兰契只有100公里。

Human sacrifices in India over the years Deccan Herald India
16 Oct 2022 — National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB) data has recorded a total of 103 ritualistic sacrifices have in the country from 2014 to 2021.
Reported in papers, Five arrested over human sacrifice at Indian temple
This article is more than 1 year old
Arrests follow discovery four years ago of woman’s headless body at Hindu temple in Guwahati

《印度德干先驱报》报道历年印度活人祭祀情况

2022年10月16日消息 —— 国家犯罪记录局（NCRB）数据显示，2014年至2021年，印度共发生103起祭祀仪式相关的杀人事件。

报纸报道，印度寺庙活人祭祀案五人被捕

四年前在古瓦哈蒂一座印度教寺庙发现一具无头女尸后，相关人员被捕

Wwmmgg95554
How India got their independence can easily tell Indians true character. Most countries got their independence throughout the arm struggle, but India got their independence throughout no - violence, uncooperative or throughout mercy of colonial master. Even though India never won a war over any country, it doesn't prevent India from braging their military mighty. What a joke from India?

从印度获得独立的方式就能看出印度人的真实品性。大多数国家都是通过武装斗争赢得独立，可印度是靠非暴力、不合作运动，或者说靠殖民者的仁慈才获得独立。即便印度从来没在战争中战胜过任何国家，也不妨碍他们吹嘘自己的军事力量有多强大。印度可真逗啊！

kamartaj3010
British showed mercy as they went bankrupt after WWII and couldn’t maintain the power.

英国是因为二战后破产了，维持不了殖民统治，才大发慈悲放手的。

benficaM8888
the bandung to surabaya, which is underway, is going to be made using Indonesian tech, from things they've learned from the Jakarta - Bandung from China

正在建设中的万隆到泗水的项目，将采用印尼技术，这些技术是他们从中国援建的雅加达 - 万隆项目中学到的。

tharunb4124
Lol, casteism in most of india doesn't exst and in few states and in primarily village parts to some extent! WTF, ARE U TALKING ABOUT?
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHO BRANDS EVEYONE AS CASTE, MODI IS NOT FROM UPPER CASTE AND THE PRESIDENT OF INDIA IS FROM TRIBAL COMMUNITY.

哈哈，印度大部分地区根本不存在种姓制度，就算在少数几个邦，也主要是在农村地区存在一定程度的种姓观念。你到底在说啥呢？
我就不明白，为啥非要给每个人贴上种姓的标签，莫迪又不是高种姓，印度总统还是部落出身呢。

kamartaj3010
casteism exst in every part of the country. Even in metro cities like delhi, mumbai, Bangalore. Wakeup kid and look around.

种姓制度在印度各地都存在。哪怕是德里、孟买、班加罗尔这样的大城市也有。醒醒吧，孩子，看看周围。

akankshashopra8051
I also think that people in india are living a showoff life but the reality is far different.

我也觉得印度人都爱显摆，但实际情况跟他们显摆的可差远了。

MrHunzi
India annexed Sikkim and interfered in the internal affairs of Nepal, Bhutan, Maldives and other countries. If such a country does not correct its shortcomings, it is not worthy of talking about peace. They often clamor for war more than any other country. Such a country should be treated with fists, not flowers.

印度吞并锡金，还干涉尼泊尔、不丹、马尔代夫等国的内政。这样的国家如果不改正自己的毛病，根本就没资格谈和平。他们比其他任何国家都爱叫嚷着打仗。对这样的国家就该用拳头，而不是鲜花。

Jasonfrh
​ @MrHunzi what war Maldives came to us again they were the one who passed racist comments towards us and now are saying is india is our friend

@MrHunzi 马尔代夫跟我们打什么仗啊，是他们先对我们发表种族歧视言论，现在又说印度是他们的朋友。

asonfrh
​ @MrHunzi we have shortcoming so does china we have more we didn't claim we are better then anyone

@MrHunzi 我们是有缺点，中国也有缺点，我们缺点可能更多，但我们也没说自己比别人强啊。

indi
ast Asia: clean, rich, sophisticated Asia
Southeast Asia: beautiful, friendly, scenic Asia
South Asia: dirty, poor, backwards Asia

东亚：干净、富裕、发达的亚洲地区

东南亚：美丽、友好、风景如画的亚洲地区

南亚：脏乱、贫穷、落后的亚洲地区

sandundilan - g2y
@MrHunzi South Asia is utter crap. Only 2 countries are clean and scenic and have quality. Maldives and Sri Lanka. Others are just.. yukkk

@MrHunzi 南亚简直烂透了。只有马尔代夫和斯里兰卡这两个国家干净，风景也好，还不错。其他国家，啧啧，简直了。

ardytan265
Please discuss the bribery and fraud case allegedly committed by gautam adani, indian conglomerate, adani is an close ally of prime minister modi

来聊聊高塔姆·阿达尼（印度企业巨头）涉嫌的贿赂和欺诈案吧，阿达尼可是总理莫迪的亲密盟友。

MrHunzi
This topic is very complicated. I will find time to do it. It is difficult for Indians to understand Adani's problems, but it is easy for Chinese to understand. Modi's model is just a pirated copy of China's model decades ago, and it has not learned the essence.

这个话题很复杂。我找时间好好讲讲。印度人很难理解阿达尼的问题，但中国人很容易明白。莫迪的模式不过是抄袭中国几十年前的模式，还没学到精髓。

CattleFarmer667
Sir, ASEAN (maybe except for Phillipines) not interested in comparing with China or India or US. We are doing well in our own terms. Thats good enough.

先生，东盟（也许菲律宾除外）没兴趣跟中国、印度或者美国比来比去。我们按自己的节奏发展得挺好，这就够了。

leoxng7697
Thanks for making laugh so good, I love my Indian friends but sadly they are too delusional and desperate to be at par with America, Russia and China and not realizing they needed to catch with Bangladesh first and then Vietnam and others.

谢谢，真是太逗了。我爱我的印度朋友，但遗憾的是，他们太不切实际了，一门心思想跟美国、俄罗斯和中国平起平坐，却没意识到他们得先追上孟加拉国，然后是越南等国家。

marmara9741
Mumbai and Delhi were built by the British Raj, and developed with Asian blood money. Bangalore and others were/are built with Asian matriarchal blood money.

孟买和德里是英国殖民统治时期建造的，用的是亚洲人的血汗钱来发展。班加罗尔等城市过去和现在也都是靠亚洲女性的血汗钱发展起来的。

eAndLimpidGreene
Indians also think ASEAN countries look up to them because hundreds to thousands of years ago they were influenced by Indian kingdoms. They take pride in the fact that most people in Bali are Hindu, for example. Many Indians think ASEAN countries will vote to merge with India under Akhand Bharat.

印度人还觉得东盟国家敬仰他们，就因为几百年甚至几千年前，东盟国家曾受到印度王国的影响。比如，他们会为巴厘岛大部分人信奉印度教而感到自豪。很多印度人觉得东盟国家会投票加入“大印度联邦”（Akhand Bharat），与印度合并。

ahyarhartanto1802
Indian influence was in ancient time, perhaps more than 1000 years ago, the newer influence came from China and European countries, and in more modern era Japanese and Korean also give influence more than Indian in this region

印度的影响是在古代，可能是一千多年前了，后来的影响来自中国和欧洲国家，在更现代的时期，日本和韩国对这个地区的影响也比印度大。

yeahchen4104
Really? I have a very strong doubt and disagreement with you about Indians think of Thailand as inferior!!
Well, except the only thing that Thailand is truly inferior to anybody else would be the country's English language efficiency. Other than that I don't see any other things that India and Indians could look down on Thailand. Sure, Thailand doesn't have big aircraft carrier or Nuclear weapons but the healthcare system in Thailand is ranked #6 in the world!!
And yeah, there are ever - growing resentments toward Indian Tourists in Thailand since they've received "Visa - Free Status" to Thailand (while they have yet to do the same!) The Thai government just celebrated 2 million visitors from India recently but I'm sure most people aren't really that happy with that too!

真的吗？我强烈怀疑并不同意你说印度人觉得泰国低人一等这种说法！

嗯，要说泰国比其他国家差的，可能就只有英语水平了。除此之外，我不觉得印度和印度人有什么能看不起泰国的。泰国确实没有大型航空母舰或核武器，

但泰国的医疗体系在世界上排名第六啊！

而且，自从印度人获得泰国的“免签待遇”后（而印度却还没给泰国同样待遇！），泰国人对印度游客的不满与日俱增。泰国政府最近还在庆祝印度游客数量达到200万，但我肯定大多数人心里其实并不开心！

Wwmmgg95554
How many high skyscrapers each country have? The top ten countries don't have India.

各国都有多少高楼大厦呢？前十里可没有印度。

ooikk8458
India always regards itself as Europeans or Americans. So to the Indian leaders, Indonesia, Malaysia or Thailand as no standard

印度老是把自己当成欧洲人或者美国人。所以在印度领导人眼里，印度尼西亚、马来西亚或者泰国都不入流。

ahmadyani8103
There are so many poor people in India.

印度穷人太多了。

Wwmmgg95554
How many high skyscrapers India has? The number one country is China with more than three thousand skyscrapers, the number two country is Unitied States with nine hundred. India is out of top ten country.

印度有多少高楼大厦呢？排名第一的是中国，有三千多座摩天大楼，第二是美国，有九百座。印度根本排不进前十。

nsightGrid620
Total Chinese propaganda, Indians never ever see Southeast Asia as a backward region, in opposite we look at them as inspiration, since ancient times both civilizations have good ties, and you Chinese just want to create conflicts by creating a bad image of Indians which helps your objectives

全是中国的宣传话术。印度人从来没觉得东南亚是落后地区，恰恰相反，我们视他们为灵感来源，自古以来两种文明就关系良好。你们中国人就是想通过抹黑印度人来制造矛盾，以达到你们的目的。

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