印度需权衡F35战机的利弊，考虑到中国因素，印空军很想欣然接受

India needs to weigh pros & cons of F-35 pitch

印度需权衡F35战机的利弊。

NEW DELHI: India will have to carefully evaluate US president Trump's offer of the fifth-generation F-35 fighter, even though IAF would love to grab it with both hands given the China factor, while the two countries take forward the procurement of six more P-8I long-range maritime patrol aircraft as well as joint production of Stryker armoured infantry combat vehicles and Javelin anti-tank guided missiles this year.

The expansive India-US defence relationship will get a further boost with PM Modi and Trump "pledging to elevate" military cooperation across air, land, sea, space and cyberspace, institute the 'Autonomous Systems Industry Alliance (ASIA)', streamline defence trade and technology exchange, and sign a 10-year major defence partnership framework to renew the one inked in 2015.

The sales pitch for the F-35, which is sold only to Nato countries and close allies, however, was the key takeaway. It might just be "a proposal" at this stage with the long-drawn formal process yet to even begin, as foreign secretary Vikram Misri said, but India will have to increasingly contend with a pushy Trump, whose deal-oriented transactional approach to geopolitics is well-known.

新德里消息：尽管考虑到中国因素，印度空军很想欣然接受美国总统特朗普提出的第五代F35战斗机的出售提议，但印度仍需谨慎评估。与此同时，今年两国将推进另外6架P - 8I远程海上巡逻机的采购，以及“斯特赖克”装甲步兵战车和“标枪”反坦克制导导弹的联合生产。

莫迪总理与特朗普“承诺提升”在空、陆、海、太空及网络空间等领域的军事合作，建立“自主系统产业联盟（ASIA）”，简化国防贸易与技术交流，并签署一项为期10年的主要防务合作框架，以续签2015年签署的协议。这一系列举措将进一步推动印美广泛的防务关系。

然而，F - 35战机的推销才是关键要点。这款战机目前仅出售给北约国家及美国的亲密盟友。正如印度外交秘书维克拉姆·米斯里所言，现阶段这或许只是“一项提议”，漫长的正式程序甚至尚未启动。但印度将不得不面对咄咄逼人的特朗普，其以交易为导向的地缘政治处事方式可谓众所周知。

"Starting this year, we will be increasing military sales to India by many billions of dollars. We are also paving the way to ultimately provide F-35 stealth fighters," said Trump. The joint statement also noted the US's "review of its policy on releasing fifth-generation fighters and undersea systems" to India.

The pros and cons will have to be weighed. "India will inexorably be drawn into the US's sphere of influence with the F-35 acquisition, iming on its strategic autonomy. Why do you think successive Indian govts over the years have acquired Russian, French and other fighters but never American ones?" an official said.

If India indeed pursues the F-35 offer, it will also have to factor in several things like the off-the-shelf price, the technologies being given, life-cycle costs, maintenance and the like, apart from the strategic benefits it can reap. Utmost care will have to be taken that India's own 5th-Gen fighter project of the advanced medium combat aircraft (AMCA), the development of which for over Rs 15,000 crore was cleared by the cabinet committee on security last March, is not adversely impacted.

特朗普表示：“从今年开始，我们将把对印度的军事销售增加数十亿美元。我们还在为最终提供F - 35隐形战斗机铺平道路。”联合声明也提及美国“对向印度出售第五代战斗机及水下系统的政策进行评估”。

印度必须权衡其中的利弊。一位官员称：“购买F - 35战机，印度将不可避免地被纳入美国的势力范围，这会损害其战略自主性。不然你觉得为何多年来历届印度政府都采购俄罗斯、法国及其他国家的战机，却从未采购美国战机呢？”

倘若印度真的考虑接受F - 35战机的提议，除了能获得的战略益处外，还需考虑诸多因素，如现货价格、所提供的技术、全寿命周期成本、维护保养等。尤其要格外注意，不能让印度自身投资超1500亿卢比的先进中型战斗机（AMCA）这一第五代战斗机项目受到不利影响。去年3月，印度国家安全委员会已批准该项目的研发。

The operational 5th-Gen jets currently are the American F-35 Lightning-II and F/A-22 Raptor, the Chinese Chengdu J-20 and Russian Sukhoi-57. China has deployed J-20s at its airfields facing India and is even going to soon supply a variant to Pakistan, while it also conducted maiden flights of two new 6th-Gen prototypes in Dec.

With IAF grappling with just 30 fighter squadrons when it is authorised 42.5, and HAL struggling to produce even a 4th-Gen Tejas, Indian security planners are obviously concerned. "With AMCA still at least 10-12 years away from production, IAF will obviously be deeply interested in getting two to three squadrons (36 or 54 jets) of F-35s in the interim. If you need deterrence to prevent wars, you obviously need capabilities," another official added.

目前现役的第五代战机有美国的F - 35“闪电II”和F/A - 22“猛禽”、中国的成都J - 20以及俄罗斯的苏霍伊 - 57。中国已在面向印度的机场部署了J - 20战机，甚至很快还将向巴基斯坦提供一款改进型。此外，去年12月，中国两架新型第六代战机原型机还进行了首次试飞。

印度空军获批编制为42.5个战斗机中队，但目前实际仅有30个，而且印度斯坦航空有限公司（HAL）连第四代“光辉”战机的生产都困难重重，印度的安全规划者们显然忧心忡忡。另一位官员补充道：“由于AMCA至少还需10 - 12年才能投入生产，在此期间，印度空军显然会对获得两到三个中队（36架或54架）的F - 35战机深感兴趣。毕竟，若要威慑对手以避免战争，显然需要具备相应的能力。”

2024年最后两个月给印度敲响了警钟，中国首次展示了另一款第五代战斗机，并试飞了两架第六代战斗机的原型机。相比之下，印度空军目前面临着能力上的巨大缺陷，没有第五代隐身战斗机，并且中队数量仍在减少。印度甜蜜的烦恼：F-35与苏-57的艰难抉择，此次F-35和苏-57的出现，让印度这个一直渴望提升空军实力的国家，置身甜蜜的烦恼之中。

美国的F-35，承载着美国航空工业的先进理念与技术结晶。它先进的隐身技术、信息化作战能力，让其具有强大的生存和攻击能力，是空战与对地攻击的多面手。然而，F-35技术升级困难重重。“技术更新3”（TR-3）版本的升级项目，按计划本应在2023年7月就能顺利完成。但是，软件方面的诸多严重问题却让这一计划受阻。

以下是印度时报读者的评论：

Ilias
What garbage articles. F35 is very expensive and has huge issues, needs constant maintenance. Israeli f35 were locked by iranian radar and circled back. So it's stealth is also compromised. It would be best to buy su 57, get technology and work jointly.

啥破文章啊。F35贵得要死，毛病还一大堆，成天都得维护。以色列那F35都被伊朗雷达给锁定了，只能灰溜溜地掉头。这么看它隐身性能也不咋地啊。还不如买苏57呢，既能拿到技术，还能一起合作研发。

Nikus Kumar Giri
India doesn,t need F35. This is the basic issue. Tejas MK2 and Rafale Super Sukhoi is enough

印度压根儿就不需要F35。这是明摆着的事儿。“光辉”MK2，再加上“阵风”和苏霍伊战机，完全够用了。

Savio
Tejas MK2 and MK1A are 10 and 3 years away!!! MK2 still on drawing board

“光辉”MK2和MK1A，一个得等10年，另一个也得等3年才能搞出来啊！！MK2现在还在图纸上画着呢。

Sanjay
Wrong the first deliveries of Tejas mk1a are expected in march this year. Second Tejas mk2 production is expected by 2029.

不对啊，“光辉”MK1A预计今年3月就能首批交付了。还有，“光辉”MK2预计2029年能投产。

Savio Gomes
Tejas MK2 is expected by 2036 and MK1A by 2027 as per IAF Chief himself. And both have old technology.

按印度空军司令自己说的，“光辉”MK2得到2036年，MK1A也得等到2027年。而且这俩战机的技术都老掉牙了。

Ashok Kumar
Why Feku Need F35 Jets Now? Already Rafale Jets For Field & Navy are available plus Feku is buying few more Rafale from France. Operational Cost & Maintenence Charges besides Depreciation Is Costly Affair. Have Feku used any Rafale in last 7 years? Feku's APPEASEMENT POLICY OF TRUMP USA TO SAVE ADANI.

这莫迪那蠢货要F35战机干啥？陆军和海军都已经有“阵风”战机了，他还打算从法国再买几架“阵风”。这F35除了折旧费，运营成本和维护费用都高得离谱。过去7年，莫迪那家伙用过“阵风”吗？他就是为了讨好特朗普，保住阿达尼集团罢了。

Vivek Kaushik
Ashok kumar, mind your language. Respect the PM of your country.

楼上的兄弟，嘴巴放干净点。尊重一下你们国家的总理。

Chill Pill
Is Bharat at war with anyone?? then why this arming..?? Within 1 - 2 months of coming to power, 2laund is fleecing Bharat so easily and our feet are bending without protest, not even a whimper. Now pay thousands upon thousands of crores buying these planes to please him, maintain with spare parts Bharat can never even dream of making. Biden didn't force this on you. Foolish chaara - chewing praja looking on at hugs and thinking something great is happening. Lage rahiioo praja!

印度又没跟谁打仗，搞这么多军备干啥？拜登刚上台一两个月，就能这么轻易地从印度捞好处，咱们就这么乖乖听话，一声都不吭。现在为了讨好他，花几千亿去买这些飞机，还得用印度根本造不出来的零部件去维护。又不是拜登逼着咱买的。那些傻兮兮嚼着恰拉（一种零食）的老百姓，就看着他们（领导人）拥抱，还以为有啥好事儿呢。接着傻乐吧，老百姓们！

Ivan Wolf
Egypt has hundreds American F16 armed with best US missiles. However, Egypt pilots soon found out their F16 won't go near Israel and their US missiles can only fly a few kms, rendering both useless. So all those American F16s are for window - dressing, all controlled by US hidden code. Egypt finally bought China J10C and PL15 missiles with hundreds km range and NO restrictions. American F35 are under much tighter control, by USA

埃及有好几百架配着美国最先进导弹的F16战机。结果呢，埃及飞行员很快发现，他们的F16根本不敢靠近以色列，美国的导弹也就只能飞几公里，完全没用。所以那些美国F16就是摆着好看的，全被美国的隐藏代码控制着呢。埃及最后买了中国的歼10C和射程几百公里还没限制的PL15导弹。美国的F35被美国控制得更严。

Sanjay
India does not for sure need the junk Styker and Javelin as all are much below the quality and standards of Indian products we produce like Nag, vshorad, and whap vehicle. The F - 35 is political decission though we are making stealth AMCA, and both Tejas mk2 and Tejas mk1a has some degree of radar cross - section reduction. We should get what we need as Trump sees Muslims and China as enemy, and so looks at India as natural friend. There is no bribe for friendship with America, but yes there are other sectors that can be invested like energy, water treatment, and many other sector chips. India must secure itself as America seems to failing to compete with China, and India is the only country capable of doing this. We need to reform our system so we can utilize the best talent and make India a competitive place.

印度肯定不需要这种垃圾玩意儿，还有“标枪”，跟咱们自己造的“纳格”“VSHORAD”防空系统、“WHAP”战车比起来，质量和标准差远了。

F35这事儿就是个政治决策，虽说咱们自己也在搞隐身的AMCA战机，而且“光辉”MK2和MK1A在一定程度上也降低了雷达反射截面。特朗普把msl和中国当敌人，所以把印度当成天然盟友，咱就得按需所求。

跟美国交朋友可不兴搞贿赂那一套，但确实还有其他领域可以投资，比如能源、水处理，还有很多其他领域的芯片。

美国好像竞争不过中国了，印度得保证自身安全，而且也只有印度能做到这一点。

咱们得改革体制，才能充分利用优秀人才，让印度更有竞争力。

Discussion
Remember 1962 war. Lost Akshai Chin.

别忘了1962年那场战争，丢了阿克赛钦。

ss
So what? It is not defeat for ever.

那又怎样？又不是永远战败了。

Ivan Wolf
Aksai Chin was never India's, so how could it LOST? A proper way to say is India the thief tried to steal Aksai Chin but got beat and thus failed

阿克赛钦从来就不是印度的，谈何“丢失”？准确地说，是印度这个小偷想偷阿克赛钦，结果被揍了，没得逞。

Lionking
Thanks to debauch ted rose chacha.

都怪那个荒淫无度的罗摩·甘地。

Prad Pat
Kindly don't rely on USA. for defense. Trump is there for only 4 years. Also, most of variants of these crafts/jets, there is in - built Kamikaze control which is controlled by Pentagon through satellite. If activated, fighter jet will simply stop engine and navigational control system resulting in instant crash. Kindly ask for navigational control system software too.

千万别在国防上依赖美国。特朗普也就干4年。而且这些战机大多数型号都内置了“自杀式”控制系统，由五角大楼通过卫星控制。一旦启动，战斗机发动机和导航控制系统就会直接失灵，立马坠毁。最好也把导航控制系统软件要过来。

krishnanmr Krishnan
We will be living in an imaginary world and fool's paradise if we do not face the reality that MIGHT IS RIGHT in the present world. I am not a defense expert, but one thing is India needs the best whether F 35 or any other and strive to achieve that. Strategic independence, strategic freedom are all illusions to justify inaction and needs to introspect whether Non - alignment or strategic freedom all these years could deter China, Pakistan and even Bangladesh from needling our country so many times. The motto needs to be to acquire might strengthen yourself, hide your strength and bide your time. No one touches a giant.

要是不面对“当今世界强权即公理”这个现实，咱们就跟活在幻想世界和愚人天堂里没啥两样。我不是国防专家，但有一点很清楚，印度不管是要F35还是其他的，就得要最好的，并且努力去争取。

所谓的战略独立、战略自由，都是为不作为找借口的幻想。得反思一下，这些年的不结盟政策或者战略自由，有没有阻止中国、巴基斯坦甚至孟加拉国一次次挑衅咱们国家。我们的宗旨应该是获取力量、壮大自己、隐藏实力、等待时机。没人敢惹巨人。

PT Teacher
though IAF would love to grab it with both hands given the China factor AND SHAMELESS desh - bakth soon start a campaign spreading false rumors that F - 35 IS INDIAN with it's similarities in design thank you NGC documentary that we watched previously hea praise about gadgets and alien technologies mentioned in ancient text mahabharat. DARE YOU ASK US HOW (for which we have no clear answer and we start stuttering) starting tonight American import is now officially INDIAN. Take that up yours REST OF THE WORLD LOSERS!! MIND IT

就因为中国因素，印度空军肯定想立马拿下F - 35。然后那些不要脸的“爱国贼”很快就会造势，到处造谣说F - 35因为设计相似，就是印度的了。这都得“归功”于咱们之前看的NGC纪录片，一个劲儿夸《摩诃婆罗多》里提到的那些小玩意儿和外星技术。要是你敢问怎么就成印度的了（其实我们也说不清楚，只能结结巴巴），从今晚开始，美国进口的这玩意儿就正式算印度的了。世界其他国家的失败者们，接招吧！！给我记好了。

Guest
By grabbing all Defence deals with India, Trump is going to Make America Great Again to run it's Weapons Factories. Hard time for PM Modi to retreat back once he is under control of Trump.

特朗普把和印度的国防交易都揽过去，就是为了让美国再次伟大，让他们的军工厂运转起来。莫迪总理一旦被特朗普拿捏住，想反悔可就难了。

Ivan Wolf
India can buy a few F35, share it with Russia so that Russians can train their S500 to shoot it down easily

印度可以买几架F35，分享给俄罗斯，这样俄罗斯人就能拿S500防空系统练习怎么轻松击落它了。

ss
The Stryker armoured infantry combat vehicles can be easily destroyed by smart weapons.

“斯特赖克”装甲步兵战车很容易被智能武器摧毁。

Mahadeo Shete
Do you need policy like Congress government or leftist to loot country's wealth as they have been doing since independence and kee our armed forces weak. Every time what ever Congress government procured to earn commission. It never tried to make in India.

难道你想要国大党政府或者左派那种政策吗？自独立以来，他们就一直掠夺国家财富，还让咱们武装部队实力薄弱。国大党政府每次采购都是为了吃回扣，从来没想过在印度本土制造。

ss
Feku wants to buy american and french. So he is not putting good effort towards Tejas. Indias defense industry not making headway.

莫迪那蠢货就想买美国和法国的武器。所以他根本没在“光辉”战机上好好下功夫。印度国防工业毫无进展。

Andrew
As an article, I find it deeply insightful, informative and immersive, and I dare say, thought - provoking. The writer has certainly applied his research skills to bring out this excellent piece. While acquiring weaponry from a super power is the prerogative of the government, no doubt, Modi should be extremely cautious while dealing with the Don in this matter. The US has always been a warmonger with its droo economy often boosted by selling armaments to nation's in need. I'm sure India and its powers that be both, in the political and defence dispensation, would weigh all the considerations before signing the deal.

就这篇文章来说，我觉得它很有深度、内容丰富、引人入胜，而且发人深省。作者肯定是下了研究功夫，才写出这么优秀的文章。从超级大国采购武器，这当然是政府的特权，但毫无疑问，莫迪在这件事上和特朗普打交道得格外小心。

美国向来就是个战争贩子，他们那疲软的经济，经常靠向有需求的国家卖武器来提振。我相信印度的政治和国防部门在签署协议前，肯定会权衡所有因素。

Kumar Sayani Sayani
indian even do a research before buying a mobile phone. I am sure the guys will do proper checks before deciding on anything

印度人买个手机都得研究研究。我肯定那些人在做任何决定之前，都会好好考察一番的。