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比亚迪表示2027年启动全固态电池批量示范装车应用

BYD says it will begin using solid-state batteries in electric cars in 2027

比亚迪表示,将于2027年开始在电动汽车中使用固态电池。

深圳市比亚迪锂电池有限公司CTO孙华军在第二届中国全固态电池创新发展高峰论坛上透露,比亚迪将在2027年左右启动全固态电池批量示范装车应用,2030年后实现大规模上车。

固态电池的重点渗透领域包括中高端动力电池、消费电池、eVTOL电池等,中信证券研究部电池与能源管理团队测算预计2030年全球固体电池出货量将达到556GWh。随着固态电池技术的发展,设备需求有望先行。根据《固态锂电池技术发展白皮书》统计,目前中国固态电池规划产能已达数百GWh,将有力拉动固态电池设备投资。经测算,2030年国内固态电池设备投资额约为178.1亿元。

以下是各国网友的评论:

RussellFineArt
Solid-state batts are the inevitable future of all batteries, no question, with continued trial and error improving cycle life and charge speed. LFP and NMC batts will be viewed like lead acid in the next 7-10 years.

固态电池无疑是所有电池未来的必然归宿。经过反复试验,其循环寿命和充电速度不断提升。未来7到10年,磷酸铁锂(LFP)和三元锂(NMC)电池,恐怕会像如今的铅酸电池一样,逐渐被时代淘汰。

 

simonrathlou7350
Imagine how good the new generation of cars will be in ten years!! Technology is just moving ahead in leaps and bounds.

试想一下,十年后新一代汽车该有多厉害!技术发展可谓一日千里。

 

danhough7574
If we didn’t have this promise of solid state batteries coming, then EV uptake would be much higher. Global average daily passenger car miles is 23, so most people don’t need huge EV range. And I don’t find it a problem for the few times I drive more than the 200 mile range my car has, I just stop for a 20 minute break every few hours, it’s quite refreshing. This promise of solid state batteries is just another arm of the fossil lobbyists delaying for their own benefit.

要是没有固态电池即将问世的传言,电动汽车的普及率会高得多。全球乘用车日均行驶里程仅23英里,所以多数人并不需要超长续航的电动汽车。即便偶尔我驾车超出车子200英里的续航,我也不觉得这是个事儿,每隔几小时停车休息20分钟,反而神清气爽。所谓固态电池要开始装车应用,不过是化石燃料游说团体为谋私利而拖延的手段罢了。

 

gerbenkarman3372
Here in the Netherlands cities already started banning all combustion commercial vehicles from the city centers per 1 jan 2025. Amsterdam already expressed plans to extend that ban to personal cars by 2030. If that trend continues probably over 80% of urban areas will be banned for internal combustion vehicles by 2035. Who wants to buy a car by then that is only allowed on the roads in no-man's-land?

在荷兰,自2025年1月1日起,各城市已开始禁止所有燃油商用车辆进入市中心。阿姆斯特丹已表明,计划到2030年将该禁令扩大到私家车。照此趋势,到2035年,八成以上城市地区或许都会禁止燃油车通行。到那时,谁还会买一辆只能在荒郊野外行驶的车呢?

 

marvinfok65
BYD is sending shock waves after shock waves to the market! They just announced self driving for even lower end models and now solid state batteries is launching in 2 years??? Other auto makers must be stressed out!

比亚迪正接二连三地冲击市场!刚宣布连低端车型都配备自动驾驶功能,现在又说两年后推出固态电池?其他汽车制造商肯定压力山大!

 

timogronroos4642
Thinking about the weight advantage in Solid State Batteries, a 60 kWh would probably give the same range as 70 kWh LFP. Similar physical size battery would give 50 % range boost.

考虑到固态电池的重量优势,一块60千瓦时的固态电池,续航可能与70千瓦时的磷酸铁锂电池相当。同样大小的电池,续航能提升50%。

 

justinstephenson9360
There is a lot of hype around solid state batteries. No doubt some of the hype will be overblown but if BYD can provide a car of the size of the Dolphin with a 250 mile range at 70 mph at the current price of the Dolphin that kills the ICE car as an economically viable option for the vast majority of domestic home uses in Europe and most of the world. But obviously not for the USA where everyone drives more than that every day whilst operating their long distance trombone repair business

固态电池备受炒作。无疑,有些炒作言过其实。但要是比亚迪能以海豚车型现有的价格,提供一款续航250英里、时速70英里的同尺寸车型,那对于欧洲及世界多数地区的绝大多数家庭日常使用来说,燃油车将不再经济实惠。但美国显然例外,毕竟在美国,人人每天开车行驶里程都远超这个数,他们可能还得开着车跑长途去修长号呢。

 

SteveZ1
I bought a 2023 Ford E-Transit Midroof long bed cargo van that is has 120 miles of range.
It will do what I need it to for now, and I plan to put a decent battery in it in 5 -7 years to get the range I want.
Meanwhile, I will be a frequent flyer at Tesla super chargers on longer trips. Not a big deal.

我买了一辆2023款福特E - Transit中顶长轴距货运面包车,续航120英里。

目前它能满足我的需求,我打算5到7年后给它换个好点的电池,以达到我想要的续航里程。

与此同时,长途出行时,我会常去特斯拉超级充电站。这也不是什么大事。

 

michaelanderson3771
If I was BYD technical head or chief strategy director I would not be giving away any technical advantage until BYD had achieved maxmum absorption and made a 2 year headway development and implementation. Don't give away your technical edge.
CATL wont be far behind.

要是我是比亚迪的技术负责人或首席战略官,在比亚迪充分吸收技术成果、取得两年领先发展并落实应用之前,我不会泄露任何技术优势。别轻易丢掉自己的技术优势。

宁德时代(CATL)肯定也不会落后太远。

 

AbdullahTech
I have a 2022 Chevy Equinox on lease and it already broke down twice. Never getting another Chevy again. Hopefully I can get an electric vehicle near the end of the year. Also congratulations to the boys

我租了一辆2022款雪佛兰探界者,它已经抛锚两次了。我再也不会买雪佛兰的车。希望年底前能买辆电动汽车。同样恭喜那些小伙子们。

 

SCC.1233
Every nation is moving up the learning curve in EVs. Especially in battery technology.
Every 5-10 years or so, there will be some new battery technologies rollout that leapfrogs everyone else. That means manufacturers have to recover the R&D costs within a half to one decade. Without super-scale mass production, small battery researcher groups, no matter how brilliant, will have to stand at the sidelines and watch the rapid changes going on around them. Or they can simply franchise out their innovation and patents to the big boys!

Many small scale battery manufacturers will go broke with their brilliant innovations only to be surpassed by some upstart that collaborated with mass manufacturer!

每个国家都在电动汽车领域不断摸索前进,尤其是在电池技术方面。

大约每5到10年,就会有一些新的电池技术问世,实现弯道超车。这意味着制造商必须在5到10年内收回研发成本。没有超大规模的量产,小型电池研究团队即便才华横溢,也只能在一旁眼睁睁看着身边日新月异的变化。要么就只能把他们的创新成果和专利授权给大公司!

许多小型电池制造商凭借出色的创新成果,却最终破产,只因被一些与大规模制造商合作的新贵超越。

 

euphegeniadoubtfire1364
It is possible that the Americans or Koreans may leapfrog the Chinese in terms of breakthroughs in solid state battery tech. However, a breakthrough is one thing. Putting that breakthrough into mass production with a supply chain costs that can guarantee a competitive price offer to the consumer and still be profitable is an entirely different story. So it remains to be seen

美国或韩国有可能在固态电池技术突破上超越中国。然而,取得突破是一回事,将这一突破成果投入大规模生产,且保证供应链成本能让消费者买到价格有竞争力的产品,同时还能盈利,这就是另一回事了。所以,结果仍有待观察。

 

avidhowardfsusanville
I can’t wait- they just opened a BYD dealership in El Salvador Central America. We are above 61% renewable energy here. We rock!!

我已经迫不及待了——比亚迪刚在中美洲的萨尔瓦多开了一家经销商。我们这里可再生能源占比超过61%。我们太厉害了!

 

rdbikes3841
Here in the US, it could take a generational change lasting 20-30 more years as the oldest drivers die off. Just like 120 years ago, a lot of horse and donkey farmers and country bumpkins refused to believe in those new-fangled tin horseless carriages and “nothing can replace good ol’ Bessie” to pull the plow Just like die’hard ICE old guys now will never buy EV.

在美国,可能还需要20到30年,随着老一辈司机离世,才会发生代际转变。就像120年前,很多养马养驴的农民和乡巴佬,根本不相信那些新奇的铁皮无马马车,还说“没什么能取代老贝西(指拉犁的牲口)”。现在那些顽固的燃油车老司机,也永远不会买电动汽车。

 

izimai7568
Time to get a EV with LFP now. Once the solid state goes into steady mass production & proven reliable, that would be the time to trade in my EV for a new one in 5-6 yrs from now.

是时候买辆搭载磷酸铁锂电池的电动汽车了。等固态电池实现稳定量产并证明可靠后,5到6年后,我就把现在的电动汽车换成新车。

 

nmanblog
Not "really dumb ' not everyone has a driveway or lives near a fast charger. For a lot people, especially those living in apartments, it will not be possible. Great channel Sam, but less insults to those that have limited choices.

并非“真傻”,不是每个人都有私人车道,或者住在快充站附近。对很多人来说,尤其是住在公寓里的人,这根本不现实。山姆,你的频道很棒,但别再对那些选择有限的人恶语相向了。

 

hencollins5706
500/600kw charging speeds are great, BUT the infrastructure needs to be put into place at an affordable cost to use. In UK not got a decent number of 250kw charging yer and it's expensive

500/600千瓦的充电速度固然很好,但要让基础设施就位,且使用成本能让人接受才行。在英国,250千瓦的充电桩数量都不多,而且收费还贵。

 

muleface1066
Any of these companies could come up with the next breakthrough--and they are all driving each other to greater efforts. That's one of the true benefits of competition (the other benefit is lower prices). We really can't know which new technology will become dominant--if any: we might continue to use different battery technologies for competitive and different use purposes. E.g. cheaper batteries for around town driving, where range isn't a huge issue, etc.

One downside of all of this is that it keeps some buyers on the sidelines. A car is a big investment, and no one wants to buy one only to have something better and cheaper come out a few months later. But whatever EV one might buy, it's going to be better and cheaper (to operate) than the ICE car you're giving up.

这些公司都有可能取得下一个突破——它们相互激励,促使彼此更努力。这就是竞争的真正好处之一(另一个好处是降低价格)。我们确实无法预知哪种新技术会占据主导地位——如果真有这样的技术的话:出于竞争和不同用途考虑,我们可能会继续使用不同的电池技术。比如,在城市周边行驶,续航不是大问题,就可以用更便宜的电池。

这其中的一个弊端是,一些消费者因此持观望态度。买车是笔大投资,没人想刚买完车,几个月后就出现更好更便宜的产品。但不管买哪种电动汽车,其使用成本都会比你放弃的燃油车更低,性能也更好。

 

npappa
Provided R&D cost could achieve 70-80% cost reduction it will have a massive impact on all levels. End user cost, charging speeds, range, safety etc. Things are starting to look very bright. One thought is what it means to all over sales for the near future? If the new tech is 7 years away I would say it does not have significant impact, because the closer we get to the "deadline" I would assume new tech is discovered that pushes hesitations further away, and would NOT impact on sales too much.

倘若研发成本能降低70 - 80%,那将在各个层面产生巨大影响。包括终端用户成本、充电速度、续航里程、安全性等等。前景开始一片光明。有个想法,这对近期全球销售意味着什么呢?如果这项新技术7年后才问世,我觉得影响不大,因为越临近这个“期限”,我猜会有新的技术出现,打消人们的顾虑,所以对销售不会有太大影响。

 

rz1140
This is great news. But I would not buy one. The first generation with will be overpriced and prone to unforeseen problems. I would be totally game for one after 3-5 years of working out the problems though.

这是个好消息。但我不会买第一代产品。第一代产品价格肯定虚高,还容易出现意想不到的问题。等3到5年把问题解决后,我肯定会考虑入手。

 

eyBlogs007
Unfortunately the USA could get left behind in the EV technology space due to their policies, especially the USA. I don't support China in any way, however they do seems to be supporting their EV industry and the benefits that come with a mature EV technology base. The US / Trump drill baby drill mantra does not exactly set the scene for EV technology advancement.

不幸的是,美国可能因自身政策,在电动汽车技术领域落后,尤其是美国(此处强调美国政策的影响)。我并不支持中国,但他们似乎确实在大力扶持电动汽车产业,以及发展成熟电动汽车技术所带来的种种好处。美国,或者说特朗普“使劲儿开采”的口号,显然不利于电动汽车技术的进步。

 

chlistens7742
there are many definitions on what solid state batteries are... these are probably semi-solid state batteries but by the definition of solid state batteries.. even semi-solid state batteries fall under solid state term. Every improvement is good to hear about.. I just worry about the definitions.

关于固态电池的定义有很多,这些可能是半固态电池,但按照固态电池的定义,即使是半固态电池也属于固态电池范畴。听到每一项进步都很高兴,我只是担心定义的问题。

 

terryzn-fb
Solid battery would be the last technology competition among all EV companies. After its massive implementation, we would see a halt in EV tech evolution for a period, like what the ICE cars are doing now.

固态电池可能是所有电动汽车公司最后的技术较量。大规模应用后,电动汽车技术的发展可能会停滞一段时间,就像现在燃油车的情况一样。

 

hristianmertens9812
2025 will be a good year for E-cars and new 2030s tech will be unbelievable good. And if 1.200 kilometer range mainstream batteries come along in the middle class cars, we might even forget about all the charging infrastructure cost and worries. Charge at home and You´re good.

2025年对电动汽车来说将是不错的一年,2030年代的新技术会好得超乎想象。如果续航1200公里的主流电池能应用在中型车上,我们甚至可能不再担心充电基础设施成本和充电问题。在家充电就搞定了。

 

JoeyBlogs007
A solid state battery with only 300 miles range would be more than adequate for most drivers in a mature EV market with ubiquitous fast charging networks. The average driver doesn't need 1,000 miles range and to be carrying around all that extra battery weight. That would only reduce the efficiency of the vehicle.

在拥有遍布各处的快充网络的成熟电动汽车市场,一块续航仅300英里的固态电池,对大多数司机来说已经绰绰有余。普通司机不需要1000英里的续航,也没必要带着那么重的额外电池。那只会降低车辆的效率。

 

paulvancamp1436
The problem with EVs is that there is no real data on their long-term cost compared to an ICE car. EVs have expensive motor dives that will wear out after time and batteries that degrade in range.

电动汽车的问题在于,与燃油车相比,目前尚无关于其长期使用成本的真实数据。电动汽车的电机驱动装置昂贵,时间久了会磨损,电池续航也会衰减。

 

oceanwave4502
EU is probably losing EV competition. In light of the recent development regading Ukraine war (Trump is abandoning Ukraine), EU is gonna lose the AI competition, too, as they need to burn additionally tens of billions for Ukraine when the US is no longer there

欧盟可能正在输掉电动汽车竞争。鉴于乌克兰战争的最新发展(特朗普要抛弃乌克兰),欧盟也可能输掉人工智能竞争,因为美国不再参与后,欧盟还得额外为乌克兰投入数百亿美元。

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