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中国新型隐形战机,旨在抗衡美国,打击关岛以及航母

Chinas New Stealth Aircraft Built to Fight the U.S

中国新型隐形战机旨在抗衡美国

In the skies above China a prototype military aircraft was captured on camera during a rare daytime flight that appeared to be their top secret 6th generation J-36 fighter. If this prototype legitimately has the capabilities that these new images suggest it does - then it could mean the Chinese Air Force is leaps ahead in development than some previously thought. But what exactly are we seeing here? Is this a new fighter? Some kind of mini bomber? Or is it copy cat of an exsting American aircraft?

在中国上空,一架军用飞机原型机罕见在一次白天飞行中被拍摄到,这架飞机似乎就是中国绝密的第六代战机歼-36。如果这架原型机真的具备这些新图像所显示的性能,那么这可能意味着中国空军在发展上比此前一些人所认为的要领先得多。但我们在这里看到的究竟是什么呢?这是一款新型战斗机吗?还是某种小型轰炸机?又或者它是美国现有飞机的仿制品呢?

歼36作为中国航空工业的又一力作,弹舱尺寸非常大。据军事专家分析,歼36的主弹舱长度可达7.3米(另有说6.5米),宽度1.6米,这一数据远超当前主流五代机的水平,甚至超过了美国B21隐身轰炸机的某些参数。

B21作为美国新一代隐身轰炸机,其主弹舱长度大约在6.5至8.7米之间,宽度为2.4米,尽管在宽度上略有优势,但歼36在长度上的表现足以令人印象深刻,尤其是在考虑到其作为战斗机的身份时。

以下是外国网友的评论:

hellboundchaoscommand7567
On behalf of all Lockheed Martin stock holders we thank you for the increased stock prices for the foreseeable future.

代表所有洛克希德·马丁公司的股东,感谢你们让公司股价在可预见的未来得以攀升。

 

yaz2928
On behalf of China I thank Lockheed Martin’s shareholders for crippling US military procurement by overpricing every piece of military hardware sold to the US government.

我代表中国,感谢洛克希德·马丁公司的股东。他们对售予美国政府的每件军事装备都漫天要价,极大地削弱了美国的军事采购能力。

 

Bert4ceasar
@yaz2928 Thats even a better comment ...don't leave out over budged rises.

这条评论更为精妙……可别遗漏了他们导致的预算大幅超支这一点。

 

anotherbacklog
This isn’t even that stealthy since you can see it. Meanwhile the NGAD is so stealthy that no one can even see it

这架飞机其实没那么隐形,毕竟都能被看到。而另一方面,下一代空中优势(NGAD)战机据说隐形性能绝佳,甚至无人能察觉其踪迹。

 

min-jd5lb
Ways to cope:
1. Refuse to admit it is a multirole fighter
2. Calling it a knockoff or copy when there is literally nothing like it exsting and NGAD is half-dead
3. Claiming China has no combat experience
4. Claiming its engine is not as capable
5. Claiming US will increase funding, although the NGAD project is still on hold and Trump has decided to cut 8% of military expense, and NGAD is not on the exemption list.
6. Claiming US have already flew some NGAD prototype, although no proof has been given and the US does not even know where NGAD project should lead to, so it might not be relevant

应对之法:

1. 拒不承认这是一架多用途战斗机。
2. 在世上根本不存在类似机型且下一代空中优势(NGAD)项目半死不活的情况下,却称它是仿制品或抄袭之作。
3. 声称中国没有作战经验。
4. 宣称其发动机性能欠佳。
5. 坚称美国会增加资金投入,尽管下一代空中优势(NGAD)项目仍处于搁置状态,而且特朗普已决定削减8%的军事开支,而下一代空中优势(NGAD)项目并不在豁免名单之列。
6. 声称美国已试飞了一些下一代空中优势(NGAD)战机的原型机,然而却未提供任何证据,况且美国甚至都不清楚该项目的发展方向,所以这种说法可能并无实际意义 。

 

mmancino1982
Anyone that disregards their adversary is wrong. Assume they're at parity. If they are, you're prepared. If they're not, you're overmatched.

任何轻视对手的人都是错误的。应假定对手与自己实力相当。若果真如此,你便有所准备。若并非如此,你也不至于措手不及、难以抗衡。

 

MadOgre
This aircraft has 3 main targets: Carriers, AWACS, Refuelers.

这架飞机有三个主要目标:航空母舰、预警机和空中加油机。

 

Marinealver
The F-117 should have been the A-117 simply because it had 0 a2a capabilities.

F-117战机本应被命名为A-117,原因很简单,它毫无空对空作战能力。

 

BrianKedersha
The F-35 should be the A-35, but Jocks do not like flying just attack aircraft anymore.

F-35战机本应叫A-35,但飞行员们已不再只愿意驾驶攻击机了。

 

MarkJoseph81
I remember a reason it was designated with the F... or should I say I DON'T remember haha the reason but I know I learned somewhere, years ago, there was a reason they designated it with a "F".
Now, this is going to drive me crazy, and I'll remember in a few days.

我记得它被冠以“F”编号是有原因的……或者更确切地说,我不记得了,哈哈。但我知道,几年前在某个地方了解过它被赋予“F”编号的缘由。现在,这可把我折磨得够呛,不过过几天我应该能想起来。

 

oshJones-37334
But the GOP swore to us that John McCain was a “fighter pilot”

但共和党曾向我们信誓旦旦地宣称约翰·麦凯恩是一名“战斗机飞行员”。

 

oskar6661
So you're saying you know nothing about the F-117 or its history? Maybe don't pretend to 'lecture' other people online if you don't know what you're talking about. A three minute search would tell you precisely why it was called the F-117.

这么说你是对F-117战机及其历史一无所知咯?要是你自己都不清楚在说什么,或许就别在网上装作专家去教导别人了。花三分钟搜索一下,你就能确切知道它为何被称为F-117了。

 

paddington1670
I heard it was called F because if it wasn't they would have had a harder time finding volunteer pilots.

我听说它被命名为“F” ,是因为如果不这样命名,就更难招募到志愿飞行员了。

 

iggiefitz6275
We can't underestimate China. Who wrote "The Art of War"?

我们不能低估中国。毕竟,《孙子兵法》是谁写的呢?

 

smarseille7422
For both countries, the weapon industry is completely different to the commercial industry. We can laugh about their consumer items/commercial industry but the weapon industry is where it really matters for China.

对于这两个国家而言,武器工业与商业产业截然不同。我们或许可以嘲笑中国的消费品或商业产业,但武器工业对中国来说才是真正关键所在。

 

JerryZhangz
It’s probably a fighter bomber designed to strike Guam and Carrier strike group.

它很可能是一款战斗轰炸机,旨在打击关岛以及航母打击群。

 

1joshjosh1
We can laugh all we want but every year they learn more and they learn more and they get better and better.

我们想怎么嘲笑都行,但事实上,他们每年都在不断学习、不断进步,而且变得越来越好。

 

shenmisheshou7002
This is not a fighter. It is most likely to be configured as a drone queen, capable of controlling maybe 50 unmanned aircraft or a maritime ship killer with the goal being to keep the US Carriers too far out to sea to use their aircraft. It has the volume to do either.

这并非战斗机。它极有可能被设计成“无人机母机”,或许能够操控约50架无人机,又或者是一种海上舰艇杀手,目的是让美国航母远远地待在海上,无法使用其舰载机。从其体量来看,这两种功能都有可能实现。

 

sktechsolutions-b3f
Anti-Naval mission roles are definitely the goal with this. They're trying to skip 5th gen and declare this a 6th gen. However without any real data from war games or the like it's just more paper for the tiger.

这架飞机无疑以反海军任务为目标。他们试图跳过第五代战机阶段,直接宣称这是第六代战机。然而,没有任何来自军事演习等方面的真实数据支撑,这不过是虚张声势罢了。

 

JohnMckeown-dl2cl
The three engine configuration is unusual and probably pretty complex to build and maintain, heat dissipation and inlet design being the most challenging. This is a somewhat educated guess, but the third engine could have three possible purposes. 1. Extra thrust at takeoff and acceleration, then idled when not required. 2. Use as a "cruise" engine to allow just one engine of a different configuration to provide thrust during loiter or subsonic cruise or a ramjet to provide power at high supersonic cruise. 3. Use as a giant APU or dedicated extra supersized generator to provide electrical power for advanced systems like a directed energy weapon (laser). However it turns out, this is just a prototype and the entire airframe may change completely if and when it goes forward into serial production. There has to be a certain amount of wait and see on this before everybody goes all chicken little about this. Remember how panicked people got over the MIG-25 until we got to look at one and found out it was a piece of junk with bad engines and low maneuverability.

这种三发动机的配置非同寻常,其制造和维护可能相当复杂,散热和进气口设计是其中最具挑战性的部分。这算是一种基于一定知识的猜测,第三台发动机可能有三种用途。

其一,在起飞和加速时提供额外推力,不需要时则使其处于怠速状态。

其二,用作“巡航”发动机,以便在飞机盘旋或亚声速巡航时,仅由一台不同配置的发动机提供推力,或者在高超声速巡航时由冲压喷气发动机提供动力。

其三,用作大型辅助动力装置(APU),或者专门的超大功率发电机,为定向能武器(如激光武器)等先进系统提供电力。

不过,这只是一架原型机,如果进入批量生产阶段,整个机身结构可能会发生彻底改变。在大家为此惊慌失措之前,还是应该先观望一段时间。想想当初人们对米格-25战机是多么恐慌,直到我们仔细研究了一架才发现,它不过是一台发动机差劲、机动性低下的破飞机。

 

GrandCrusader
I know you try to stay away from politics but you might want to consider at some point acknowledging or doing a video on how we don't have to worry about China or Russia destroying our military because Trump is doing it himself with everything he's doing he's weakening the US military and the US internationally.

我知道你试图避开政治话题,但你或许应该在某个时候承认,或者做一个视频来说明:我们根本无需担心中国或俄罗斯会摧毁我们的军事力量,因为特朗普所做的一切,正使美国军队以及美国在国际上的地位不断削弱。

 

warchant59
I wouldn't expect a true "fighter" due to the intake positioning. In an aggressive maneuver the engine would experience a starvation of air.

鉴于进气口的位置,我不认为这是一架真正的“战斗机”。在进行激烈的机动动作时,发动机可能会出现进气不足的情况。

 

intermwaldbauer
Greetings from Germany.
The Timing exposes the sence.
It's a inauguration gift for the new US President.
" Helloooo, would be smart to show respect..."

来自德国的问候。

这个时机很能说明问题。

这是送给美国新总统的就职礼物。

“哈喽,还是识趣点表示尊重比较明智……”

 

dwchen1
You ask : "can China produce this aircraft at large scale...?"
If you ask this question 20 years ago it will make sense if you doubt it.
But asking that question about 2025 China...?
No nation on earth can ever outproduced anything against China on everything, no mention match them.

你问道:“中国能大规模生产这种飞机吗?”

要是在20年前问这个问题,你有所怀疑还情有可原。

但对于2025年的中国还问这个问题……?

世界上没有哪个国家能在所有方面的生产能力上超过中国,更别提与之匹敌了。

 

douginorlando6260
The wide wingspan really helps improve fuel efficiency … especially in high altitude thin air.

宽大的翼展确实有助于提高燃油效率,尤其是在高空稀薄的空气中。

 

BravoCheesecake
The thing needs 3 engines to get off the ground That should tell you the current state of Chinese engine development.

这玩意儿需要三台发动机才能起飞,这足以说明中国发动机目前的发展状况。

 

Trials_By_Errors
China can sell everything thing they want to Pakistan. Real question is at what cost ??? We don't know how Pakistan is paying china for those Aircrafts.

中国可以把任何想卖的东西卖给巴基斯坦。真正的问题是代价是什么呢?我们不知道巴基斯坦是如何向中国支付购买这些飞机的费用的。

 

greg5023
No one knows its radar cross section but "it's stealth".

没人知道它的雷达反射截面积究竟是多少,但却宣称“它是隐形的”。

 

SandersBernie-dl6in
Because the USN have had run in with the J20 and have failed to track it. J-20 has has flybys over Taiwan airspace and the taiwanese government admitted that their myriad of american air search radars failed to detect the jet. So given the track record the americans can safely assume chinese knows how to do all aspect stealth.

因为美国海军曾与歼-20有过接触,却未能追踪到它。歼-20曾飞越台湾空域,台湾当局也承认,他们众多的美国造空中搜索雷达都未能探测到这架战机。所以,基于这一事实,美国人完全有理由认为,中国掌握了全方位的隐形技术。

 

NonyaBusinessNerd
Got a source for that? The J-20 radar signature is much bigger than the f-22 or f-35.

有相关来源依据吗?歼-20的雷达反射信号比F-22或F-35要大得多。

 

politicalpolarbea
This was a photo op. I wouldn't doubt that China is making something but just like many of their other projects, this could just be a mockup. But the US always needs to remain ahead. It makes me sad to see people not understand how kee a hyper advanced military is required in this time of turmoil and pending threats.

这不过是一次作秀拍照罢了。我不怀疑中国在研发某些东西,但就像他们的许多其他项目一样,这可能只是一个模型。不过美国必须始终保持领先地位。看到人们不明白在当前动荡不安、威胁四伏的局势下,拥有一支高度先进的军事力量是何等必要,我感到很痛心。

 

alexncobra7379
The reason the jet looks like that is because we published concept art of how we want the 6 gen aircraft to look. China saw that and went ahead and came out with one first, but question its abilities. They don't innovate, they just copy, and if they coppied incomplete designs, they will have produced a flawed vehicle.

这架飞机之所以是这样的外观,是因为我们曾公布过我们所设想的第六代战机的概念图。中国看到后就抢先推出了一款,但人们对其性能表示怀疑。他们不搞创新,只会抄袭,如果抄袭的是不完整的设计,那他们制造出来的就会是有缺陷的飞行器。

 

locnguyen607
The joke is on both nations when Japan launched their Gundam. You don't need stealth.

当日本推出他们的高达(模型或设想)时,对中美两国来说都是个笑话。因为(在那种情况下)根本不需要隐形技术。

 

charleshartley9597
As an archaeologist that studies Chinese history, don't conflate ancient/historic China with the modern Chinese state, est. c.1946.
They are not the same.

作为一名研究中国历史的考古学家,不要把古代或历史上的中国与大约1946年建立的现代中国相混淆。
它们并非同一回事。

 

qmyan8406
Then what exactly did you learned since you came up with such moron conclusion?

那你到底学到了些什么,才会得出这么愚蠢的结论呢?

 

passby8070
@charleshartley9597 tbh, it is moronic to say such things, it's like saying I am not identical as my father or mother, even US is not the same as two months ago. The result of what China is now is the consequences and results of events, knowledge and wisdoms of the past. The china government, but it's very different with the way how the Soviets where ran. That's because alot of the leadership philosophy are from Chinese culture and events that have shaped them.

说实话,说出那样的话可真够愚蠢的,这就好比说我和我的父母完全不一样,甚至就像美国和两个月前的美国也不一样一样。中国如今的现状是过去的事件、知识和智慧所带来的结果。中国的执政方式与苏联有着很大的不同。这是因为许多领导理念都源自中国文化以及那些塑造了他们的历史事件。

 

YSKWatch
the ancient is different than the current. do you need to say the obvious? but the knowledge and wisdom are brought to current time, that made the difference.

古代和现代当然不同。这种显而易见的事还用说吗?但古代的知识和智慧被传承到了现代,这才是关键所在。

 

ZvelHaj
SR-72 R&D: "alright, we've got everything sorted except making one engine that does subsonic and supersonic at the same time, which no one has been able to do. Once we've solved that mystery, we're good to go."
J-36 R&D: "one subsonic engine, two supersonic engines. Done. Put it in the air."
I know it's literally rocket science, but figuratively, it's not rocket science guys

SR-72的研发团队:“好吧,我们其他方面都搞定了,就差造出一台能同时实现亚声速和超声速飞行的发动机了,而这是目前没人能做到的。一旦我们解开了这个难题,那就万事俱备了。”

歼-36的研发团队:“一台亚声速发动机,两台超声速发动机。成了。让它上天吧。”

我知道这从字面上看是极其复杂的高科技问题,但从实际意义上讲,其实也没那么高深莫测,伙计们。

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