Saudi Arabia signs world’s biggest EVER battery deal with BYD

全球最大！比亚迪与沙特签署12.5GWh储能项目

近日，比亚迪储能与沙特电力公司签署当时全球最大的储能项目合同，容量达12.5GWh。

据了解，此次签约的12.5GWh储能系统将安装在五个项目地，采用比亚迪全新一代“MC Cube-T魔方储能系统”。

该系统搭载刀片电池，采用CTS（电芯到系统一体化）技术。无模组、无PACK、直接集成到系统，可降低约36%的零部件数量，提升约98%的空间利用率，加大约30%的结构强度。

该12.5GWh储能系统将全面接入沙特的输电网络体系，确保供电的稳定性。

以下是外国网友的评论：

villaminium
Blows my mind that the Aussie government aren’t doing this. We have huge amount of sunlight here and just don’t utilise it anywhere near enough. Instead we love giving the fossil fuel companies our money and backing. Backwards thinking country. It’s so sad to see

澳大利亚政府不和比亚迪合作，这让我很惊讶。我们这里有大量的阳光，却远远没有充分利用。相反，我们还热衷于向化石燃料公司送钱。真是个思想落后的国家。看着真让人难过。

fatdoi003
australia is large enough to chase sunlight... solar can be wired to east coast during evening peak hours when central and western australia still has sunlight.... then late evening can use batteries

澳大利亚地域足够辽阔，可以利用不同地区的光照。当澳大利亚中部和西部在傍晚用电高峰时段仍有阳光时，可以通过电线将太阳能输送到东海岸，然后在深夜就可以使用电池供电。

stephen7630
Australia's power usage is usually up to 20-30 kw. 2.5 kw would certainly help a lot, but it won't be anywhere near enough

澳大利亚的用电量通常高达20到30千瓦。2.5千瓦肯定能帮上大忙，但远远不够。

sunshinesun121
Just Thinking. How are they going to "Clean and Maintain" the panels without water ?

只是在想，没有水的话，他们要怎么清洁和维护这些太阳能板呢？

nassera.4240
130 GW is way more the local demand requires. It is almost a double or more. The plan is to export excess capacity to neighboring countries, which they have sign deals already. Saudi does not care what form of energy it exports, it cares about being the world supplier of cheap and reliable energy. The current and new gas power plants will be equipped with CCS systems to capture 100% of CO2 emissions. In addition, Saudi is also planning to build nuclear power plants in the next decade as well. The energy transition there is massive and their goals and ambitions are being achieved by the day.

130吉瓦远远超出了当地的能源需求，几乎是需求的两倍甚至更多。沙特计划将过剩产能出口到邻国，而且已经签署了相关协议。沙特并不在意出口的能源采取何种形式，它在乎的是成为全球廉价且可靠能源的供应商。现有的以及新建的天然气发电厂都将配备碳捕获与封存（CCS）系统，以实现二氧化碳排放的百分百捕获。此外，沙特还计划在未来十年内建造核电站。沙特的能源转型规模巨大，其目标和抱负正日益得以实现。

RR_reunificationRights
china can help to build +/-1100kV grid lines to europe

中国可以协助建设通往欧洲的±1100千伏输电网线路。

wonderwalls3565
These batteries cant be fully cahrged with solar panels if they are used daily. this is misleading.

如果这些电池每天都使用，仅靠太阳能板是无法将它们完全充满电的。这有点误导人了。

stephencollins5706
For a country whose GDP is massively different dependant on oil, this shows they have better future vision than the so called western hemisphere,and are making these nations look hypocritical slowing this change

对于一个GDP严重依赖石油且差异巨大的国家来说，该国比所谓的西半球国家更具前瞻性眼光，也让那些减缓能源转型变革的国家显得虚伪至极。

grahamt5924
It's not comparable to say a country that gets plenty of sunlight, is the same as a country that might not have sunlight for 3 months.

不能将一个阳光充足的国家，和一个可能连续三个月见不到阳光的国家相提并论。

saudmubarak1542
Im from Saudi Arabia, yes, unfortunately, 45% of our gdp is dependent on oil. But, thankfully, that's presentge is going down dramatically, each year it goes down by around 5%.

我来自沙特阿拉伯。没错，很遗憾，我国45%的国内生产总值依赖于石油。不过，值得庆幸的是，这一比例正在大幅下降，每年大约降低5%。

stephencollins5706
@grahamt5924 You missed the point , it's about moving away from fossil fuel to A (not specifying) renewable. Take Norway, that has access to plenty of oil but knew it was limited and developed alternatives rather than rely on oil, they don't have the sunlight for solar

你没抓住重点。关键在于从化石燃料转向某种可再生能源。以挪威为例，该国拥有丰富的石油资源，但它知道石油资源是有限的，于是开发了替代能源，而不是单纯依赖石油。而且挪威并没有充足的阳光来发展太阳能。

simonpannett8810
Great start to seeing a Petro state investing into renewables!! Hope thy help North Africa to go renewable!

看到一个石油国家开始投资可再生能源，这真是个良好的开端！希望他们能助力北非地区实现能源可再生化！

petebest8422
Saudi Arabia uses 300 TWH of electricity a year. This battery system although impressive is 1% of their BESS requirements. They must use a lot of air conditioning. The solar, wind, Bess solutions can power SA but it needs decades of work

沙特阿拉伯每年的用电量为300太瓦时。这套电池系统虽然令人惊叹，但也仅占其电池储能系统（BESS）需求的1%。他们肯定大量使用了空调。太阳能、风能和电池储能解决方案能够为沙特供电，但这需要数十年的努力。

andrewflies9119
QLD and NSW consume 8Gw each hour from 7pm till late. This BYD battery could power Victoria, SA, TAS for 90 minutes maybe. How do we power for the rest of the night plus NSW and QLD?

昆士兰州和新南威尔士州从晚上7点到深夜，每小时的耗电量均为8吉瓦。这款比亚迪电池或许能为维多利亚州、南澳大利亚州（SA）和塔斯马尼亚州供电90分钟。那我们要如何为新南威尔士州和昆士兰州以及夜间剩余时段供电呢？

mhirasuna
What happened to the other world's biggest battery, the one in UAE you reported on previously. That one was for 19 GWh to be provided by CATL. This one in Saudi Arabia is only 12.5 GWh provided by BYD. So China is using their cheap coal power to build batteries for countries that want to free up their domestic use of oil to sell on the world market.

之前报道过的位于阿联酋的另一座世界最大储能电池怎么了呢？那座电池由宁德时代（CATL）提供，储能为19吉瓦时。而这座位于沙特阿拉伯的电池由比亚迪提供，储能仅为12.5吉瓦时。所以说，中国是在利用其廉价的煤炭发电，为那些想要节省国内石油用量以便在国际市场上销售的国家建造电池。

arthurthomasware5004
It's obvious why. The Saudi's know oil demand will dry up. They're 'Making hay while the sun shines; building solar and batteries whilst they still have enormous income from oil. Makes sense.

原因显而易见。沙特人知道石油需求终会枯竭。他们这是在“未雨绸缪”，趁着还能从石油中获取巨额收入的时候，大力发展太阳能和电池产业。这是明智之举。

Joe-rp8fd
why dont they put solar panels over those batts, like a roof or something, they are heated enough by charging already...they would not go green if they did not have sunlight in abundance

他们为什么不安装太阳能板呢，比如像屋顶那样。电池充电时已经产生了足够的热量。如果没有充足的阳光，他们就无法实现绿色能源转型。

vincentcausey8498
To run an entire grid off solar you need not only plenty of sun, but also a huge amount of very cheap land. I am amazed that so many people are overlooking the fact that land is factor of production, and when you make an economic decision to use it for one purpose or another, the major determining factor is to ask, what are the opportunity costs lost when turning it over from one use to another. On the one hand you have a country which sits on desert with virtually zero opportunity costs lost, while in other countries which have much more valuable land, this calculus would simply not make any economic sense.

It is also the case that you need storage for when the sun doesn't shine, which I imagine averages about 12 hours in Saudi Arabia daily, or more realistically 14 or 15 hours because you don't get much generation when the sun is very low in the sky. If we are talking about generating 130 GW on average, then Saudi Arabia would need battery storage for 130 GW x 15 hours which is 1,950 GW hrs of storage. Compare this with the tiny amount of storage in this deal - 21 GW hrs. You would need almost 100 times as much. This whole project is nothing but a hobby horse for MBS, and the idea that his could replace fossil fuels is for the birds.

要完全依靠太阳能来驱动整个电网，不仅需要充足的日照，还需要大量极为廉价的土地。令我惊讶的是，很多人都忽视了土地是一种生产要素这一事实。当你做出将土地用于某种用途的经济决策时，主要的决定因素是要考虑，将土地从一种用途转变为另一种用途时所损失的机会成本是多少。一方面，有的国家坐拥沙漠，土地用途转变的机会成本几乎为零；而在其他土地价值高得多的国家，这种做法根本没有任何经济意义。

还有一个情况是，在没有阳光的时候需要储能。我想在沙特阿拉伯，平均每天大概有12个小时没有阳光，或者更实际一点，有14到15个小时，太阳在地平线附近时发电量很少。如果我们说平均发电量为130吉瓦，那么沙特阿拉伯就需要130吉瓦×15小时的电池储能，也就是1950吉瓦时的储能。相比之下，这笔交易中的储能仅为21吉瓦时，少得可怜。所需的储能几乎是现有储能的100倍。整个项目不过是沙特王储穆罕默德·本·萨勒曼的个人爱好罢了，认为它能取代化石燃料的想法简直是天方夜谭。

grahamkearnon6682
Stelantis have suspended Brampton, ontario factory upgrades for a Jeep Compass ev line. They say the upgrade will continue in 2026. Don't hold your breath, GM just got the call from Chump too, he wants all GM & FORD operations in N.America to be situated in the Excited States. Jeep are a dead brand going forward so not a loss.

斯特兰蒂斯（Stelantis）公司已暂停了安大略省布兰普顿工厂的Jeep指南者电动汽车生产线的升级工作。他们称升级工作将在2026年继续进行。别抱太大希望了，通用汽车也刚接到特朗普的电话，他希望通用汽车和福特汽车在北美的所有业务都设在美国。从长远来看，Jeep品牌已经日薄西山，所以暂停升级也算不上什么损失。

autoselectricos-americalat9276
Bad news for Tesla investors. BYD is taking over from Tesla it's new hig profit projects: energy storage and autonomous FSD driving.

这对比亚迪投资者是个坏消息。比亚迪正从特斯拉手中接过其新的高利润项目：储能和全自动驾驶（FSD）。

Paul-b2s4j
Just imagine how this will burn. Like Moss landing, which is on fire again!

想象一下，要是这电池着火会怎样。就像莫斯兰丁的电池设施那样，又起火了！

OshaWaArt
KSA, it seems, is going wild. Hopefully, I hope, somehow; they keep it together and actually emerge as a leader in renewables. But, their lavish projects may utterly destroy any effects of the "green" projects they may be working on. Those may offset, or null out, their green energy efforts.

沙特阿拉伯似乎正在大力推进能源项目。我满怀希望，希望他们能以某种方式统筹协调，真正成为可再生能源领域的领军者。但是，他们那些奢华的项目可能会完全抵消掉他们正在推进的“绿色”项目的成效。这些奢华项目可能会抵消甚至抹杀他们在绿色能源方面所做的努力。

davidallen2058
Australia could have done this for a fraction of the wasted money for no subs.

澳大利亚本可以用原本浪费在某些毫无意义项目上的一小部分资金，发展可再生能源。

karlorf2023
Saudi has so much sun that they could not only power a homes but run whole transportation on electricity. I think Saudi can use windmills as big fans to blow humid colder winds from surface of the Sea

沙特的日照极为充足，这不仅可以为家庭供电，甚至可以让整个交通运输系统都实现电力驱动。我认为沙特可以把风车当作大型风扇，将来自海面的潮湿冷空气吹向内陆。

a.m.9357
Mid East countries, and deserts, get very very hot in the day. Those batteries will need some serious cooling/protection from catching fire just from the sun, let alone their own heat. That, I think, would be the biggest challenge in this project.

中东国家以及沙漠地区在白天的温度非常高。这些电池需要进行严格的冷却和防火保护，以防止仅仅因太阳照射就起火，更不用说电池自身产生的热量了。我认为，这将是该项目面临的最大挑战。

kevinW826
World’s biggest fire you mean that won’t go out. Kind of like that underground fire in Pennsylvania and that gateway to hell fire pit in Russia.

你是说这可能会引发一场无法扑灭的世界最大火灾。就像宾夕法尼亚州的地下火灾，还有俄罗斯那个“地狱之门”火坑一样。

kamingcloud2880
Saudi Arabia has it all, lots of Sun and Wind that can produce Maga Watt of Renewable Energy for the whole entire Country , that is , if they ever wanted !
Two thumbs up for Saudi Arabia

沙特阿拉伯拥有一切所需条件，充足的阳光和风力，只要他们愿意，就能为整个国家生产出巨量的可再生能源！为沙特阿拉伯点赞！

IanReid-e9r
When the second largest oil exporter in the world starts divesting itself from oil based power to renewables THE WRITING IS ON THE WALL.

当世界第二大石油出口国开始从以石油为基础的能源转向可再生能源时，形势已经很明显了

RedRouge-j4j
Well, maybe they have huge cashflow and what do they spend it on? Skyscrapers? It looks like they can see peak oil, now! So investing in solar and leaving oil to do things that solar can't, like plastics, is a canny move

嗯，也许他们有巨额的现金流，那他们把钱花在什么地方了呢？摩天大楼吗？现在看来，他们似乎已经预见到了石油产量的峰值！所以投资太阳能，然后石油用来生产塑料，这是一个明智的举措。

f1aziz
China will pay for Saudi oil in Chinese currency, Saudia will pay for Chinese infrastructure in Chinese currency. And we're talking about 100s of billions of dollars worth of international transactions outside of USD.

中国将用人民币购买沙特的石油，沙特也将用人民币支付中国帮助修建的基建费用。我们说的可是价值数千亿美元、且不通过美元进行的国际交易。

phillipsweeney7978
How many minutes of supply will this "biggest EVER battery" provide and how much will it cost? Saudi Arabia consumes 400 TWh per annum of electriciity compared to Australia at 273 TWh.
To back up wind and solar in Australia with batteries would cost A$ 10 Trillion - so for Saudia Arabia it would be around A$ 15 TRILLION.

这个“史上最大的电池”能供电多少分钟呢？它的成本又是多少呢？沙特阿拉伯每年的用电量为400太瓦时，而澳大利亚每年的用电量为273太瓦时。

在澳大利亚，用电池来为风能和太阳能发电提供备用支持需要花费10万亿澳元，那么对于沙特阿拉伯来说，这一成本大约会是15万亿澳元。

TronJockey
If it were not for the powerful Fossil Fuel lobbies and their continual undermining of renewable energy projects, these sorts of projects could be rewarding American or Australian companies.

要不是那些强大的化石燃料游说团体不断地破坏可再生能源项目，这类项目本可以让美国或澳大利亚的公司获利。

ainispozins4172
Renewable energy gives real independence even in oil rich countries! It is huge Trump's defeat...and huge win for Chinese soft and hard power.

即使在石油资源丰富的国家，可再生能源也能带来真正的能源独立！这是特朗普的重大失败，同时也是中国软实力和硬实力的重大胜利。

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