走进中国庞大的075型两栖攻击舰，越南网友称：能把中国视为我们的“天朝上国”，我倍感自豪

Inside China's Massive Type 075 Amphibious Assault Ship

走进中国庞大的075型两栖攻击舰

Today we hop aboard a PLA Navy Type 075 landing helicopter dock, or LHD. There is much to this ship that's often misunderstood and misreported in the Western defence media.

今天，我们登上了解放军海军的075型两栖攻击舰（又称两栖直升机登陆坞舰，LHD）。关于这艘舰艇，西方防务媒体的很多报道存在误解和误报。

以下是外国网友的评论：

kumbackquatsta
type 075: "just wait until you meet by big bro"

075型两栖攻击舰：“就等着见我大哥吧”

RadicalFloat_95
I actually genuinely agree with you

实际上我同意你的看法。

redblueyankee8343
Wow impressive, greeting from Vietnam

哇，令人惊叹，来自越南的问候。

FELIPEFODAOBR12
''The ships of the PLA Navy are carnivores, not herbivores''

“中国人民解放军海军的舰艇是食肉动物，而不是食草动物。”

catrojana3694
Omnivorous

杂食性的。

mythbusterthe6749
The PLAN 075 HLD looks so new although it was commissioned back in April 2021.
Warships of similar ages from navies of the other nations would have signs of rust.

中国人民解放军海军的075型两栖攻击舰（HLD）看起来非常新，尽管它在2021年4月就已入列服役。

其他国家海军中服役年限相近的军舰可能都已经生锈了。

XkMeng
Even the 40-year-old 037 series of warships looks very new, and the PLA is highly disciplined and has very good internal maintenance in peacetime

甚至有着40年舰龄的037系列军舰看起来也非常新，而且中国人民解放军纪律严明，在和平时期对舰艇内部的维护良好。

redblueyankee8343
I watched a video about the ancient capital Luoyang and I really got goosebumps when I saw it, it reminded me how powerful the Sinosphere was, is and will always be. So proud to have China as our "celestial dynasty", Vietnam

我看了一段关于古都洛阳的视频，看完后不禁起了一身鸡皮疙瘩。这让我想起，中华文化圈过去强大，如今强大，未来也必将一直强大。

身为越南人，能把中国视为我们的“天朝上国”，我倍感自豪。

Excelgam
The captain seems to have enjoyed the chow line a bit much.

舰长似乎有点太喜欢舰上的伙食了。

bombarderoazul
Greetings from El Salvador !!!
Impressive ship

来自萨尔瓦多的问候！

这军舰令人赞叹。

freeworld88888
type75 series are powerful landing ships but type76series are far powerful than type75.

075型系列是强大的登陆舰，不过076型系列远比075型强大。

dongately2817
Those choppers on deck look awfully familiar

甲板上的那些直升机看着格外眼熟。

justme6275
nice looking ship

这军舰真好看。

minhmeo9506
Can you make a vid about new North Korean large destroyers/frigates that are under construction?

你能介绍朝鲜正在建造的新型大型驱逐舰/护卫舰吗？

Chickenworm9394
Never heard of North Korea capable of ship construction

从没听说过朝鲜有能力建造军舰啊。

minhmeo9506
@ for real?
You need to go outside and touch grass.

说真的吗？你该出去走走，见识见识了，别孤陋寡闻。

TheCbins
I can see the future from here.

从这里我仿佛看到了未来。

ethanmac639
It's 40,000 tons NOT 36,000 tons

075型排水量是4万吨，而不是3.6万吨。

OCS-vr7my
Compared to the US navy where I’d bet than more than half can’t even read

和美国海军相比，我敢打赌，美国海军里一半以上的人甚至都不识字。

92HazelMocha
All of them can read, its actually an issue as illiteracy is on the rise in the US which is severely cutting the pool of potential new recruits.

他们美国海军人员其实都识字。但实际上，美国的文盲率在上升，这确实是个问题，严重减少了潜在新兵的数量。

xnyiquan666
u mean US, the only one there can read is chinese and some other asians

你是说美国吧，在那儿唯一能识字的是中国人和其他亚洲人。

HockSengNg-i7n
Strong China.

中国强大。

bradgolding6847
Two things to notice, there are no devices in the classrooms, the sailors are using notebooks; and it is encouraging to see that, in China, people are taught how to hold a pen correctly!
Best wishes from across the ditch!

有两件事值得注意：教室里没有电子设备，水兵们都在用笔记本；而且令人欣慰的是，在中国，人们懂得如何正确握笔！

来自远方的美好祝愿！

MFKR696
Meanwhile, every single Ferry that's in service with their "civilian" Merchant-Mariner force is basically an AAS... In China, there's no separation between military and corporate power. Everything there exsts to serve the State. Just sayin.

中国“民用”商船队中服役的每一艘渡轮基本上都可以当作两栖攻击舰来用。在中国，军事力量和民用力量没有明显界限。那里的一切都是为国家服务的。我只是说说而已。

King_Cola
How much bigger is the 076

076型两栖攻击舰要大多少呢？

Phantom-bh5ru
Like around 10k t I think

我觉得大概排水量要多一万吨左右吧。

Flightman453
Longer and much wider than the 075 along with a displacement of 50K tons.

076型比075型更长、宽得多，排水量达5万吨。

Flightman453
@emmastone2192 It's definitely not that close. The 076 is a bit longer and much wider than the America class and just overall bigger, so it's definitely over 50K+ tons.

绝对没那么接近。076型比美国级两栖攻击舰要长一点、宽得多，整体上更大，排水量肯定超过5万吨。

emacstac
and .... here comes along a $250k quick sink munition from a B-21 the PLA can't even detect ... the 075 makes a fantastic coral reef

然后一架B-21轰炸机投下一枚价值25万美元的炸弹，解放军甚至都无法探测到， 075型被击中后就会变成一座珊瑚礁。

92HazelMocha
Quick sink is just a jdam kit, and jdams are very easy to track and destroy, 80's air defense could do it with ease. Also there are 0 B21's so I don't think China has to worry about more Lockheed vaporware that will take another 10 years to even reach ioc.

你说的不过是联合直接攻击弹药（JDAM）套件罢了，而联合直接攻击弹药很容易被追踪和摧毁，上世纪80年代的防空系统都能轻松做到。而且现在根本没有B-21轰炸机服役，我觉得中国没必要担心洛克希德公司那些虚无缥缈的东西，就算有可能再过10年才能达到初始作战能力。

emacstac
@92HazelMocha oh I understand this, I'm saying the b21 would be overhead drop a few of these before the PLA knew what was going on.
Incorrect, there are 12 b21s in production with 2 flying

哦，我明白这一点。我是说在解放军还没反应过来的时候，B-21轰炸机就会在头顶上投下几枚这种弹药。

不对，现在有12架B-21轰炸机正在生产中，其中2架已经能飞行了。

pilgrim8610
only thing PLAN lacks is real combat experience but in term of technology they are great just alittle behind u. s. a naval forces

中国人民解放军海军唯一缺少的就是实战经验，但在技术方面很出色，只是比美国海军稍微落后一点。

TuanTran-h5f
Please list what technology that you say they are lacking. I'm curious.

请列举一下你所说的他们中国海军缺少的技术。我很好奇。

pilgrim8610
@TuanTran-h5f
agies system sm3 missiles chinas marine gas turbines based on ukrainian technology are not efficient as u.s made ones fighters like f35b capable of operating on LHDs that dont have a match in PLA at least for now... whatever dont get angry bro u. s navy is another level specially in combat experience China have long way to get combat approved like u. s navy

比如宙斯盾系统、标准-3型导弹，中国基于乌克兰技术的舰用燃气轮机，其效率不如美国制造的燃气轮机。还有像F-35B这样能够在两栖攻击舰上起降的战斗机，至少目前中国人民解放军海军还没有与之匹敌的机型。不管怎样，兄弟，别生气啊，美国海军确实是另一个层次，特别是在实战经验方面，中国海军要达到美国海军那样的实战水平还有很长的路要走。

TuanTran-h5f
@pilgrim8610 you think Russia weapons better than western weapons bro?

兄弟，你觉得俄罗斯的武器比西方的武器好吗？

TuanTran-h5f
@pilgrim8610 tell me how those weapons will beat China? What strategy would they use against China?

告诉我那些西方武器要怎么打败中国？他们会用什么策略来对付中国？

pilgrim8610
@TuanTran-h5f
After the pla, s first conflict we could have a clear image about what they capable to do this wargames are so impressive in t. v but couldnt tell so much about truth

等中国人民解放军经历了第一次实战冲突后，我们就能清楚地知道他们的能力了。电视上的那些军事演习看起来很厉害的样子，但并不能完全说明实际情况。

Flightman453
No they aren't, combat experience is irrelevant here nor some trump card. It's a highly overrated argument. What "combat experience" does the USN have? Sinking some Iranian speedboats almost 40 years ago? They have none, let alone against any serious opponent in the modern day.

不，并非如此。实战经验在这里并不重要，也不是什么王牌。美国海军有什么“实战经验”呢？是近40年前击沉几艘伊朗快艇吗？他们美国海军其实没什么实战经验，更不用说对抗现代强劲对手了。

Flightman453
@pilgrim8610 I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about.

1) China has their AEGIS equivalent.

2) China doesn't need an SM-3 like missile on their ships because they face little to no ballistic missile threat in the way the US does. There are not many countries that employ a large conventional ballistic missile inventory and the ones that do (e.g. Russia, Iran, NK) are all "aligned" with China and of no threat to them. Regardless, China has 4-5 different dedicated BMD systems on land across their country that most of you people couldn't even name. Can they implement an ABM defense missile on their ships? Yes, but that isn't a priority nor a major need. But knowing China, it could already be on their ships and no one knows.

3) Wrong. The 052B's and the 052C's Batch I use the Ukrainian UGT-25000 engines. But the 052C Batch II, 052D/DLs, and 055's use a domestic derivative of those Ukrainian engines which is the GT-25000. Another thing, QC280 is the Chinese version of the UGT-25000 built by AECC, who was commissioned by CSSC to produce the now domestic version GT-25000 to compete. To clarify, all UGT-25000-derived marine GT installed on PLAN warships are CSSC's GT-25000, now renamed to CGT-25M. Now about a little over two months ago in December, CSSC officially announced and revealed the indigenous CGT30 and CGT40 marine gas turbine engines that are of the 30MW and 40MW categories respectively. These engines will likely be used on any 052D and 055 successor. But to simply answer your original point again, no, you are wrong.

4) China doesn't need STOVL. No one cares about F-35B's operating off the America-class. China has the Type 076, which will have the ability to operate J-35s off of it, and other various fixed wing aircraft and drones, making it far more versatile, so this point is pointless. If we're just looking at simple specs and which can function as a proper "carrier", there's nothing the America-class has on the Type 076 in that domain. You also have this notion that LHDs are carriers. No, they are not. If I recall, an LHD can only carry like 6% the ammunition that a single CVN can. The sortie rates from these would make China's STOBAR carriers look like the Ford. They are useless as a "carrier" against any serious opponent so your point is laughable. I don't understand this random infatuation with STOVL. The F-35B is by far the worst variant and almost killed the whole F-35 program because the USMC wanted a piece of the pie. V/STOL is dead end tech just like swing wing was. Comes with way too many compromises for supersonic non-mini aircraft and high costs. The F-35B is utterly complicated. It would be a very expensive aircraft without some of the development not being paid for by F-35A and C sales. China doesn't need to bother its LHDs with CV duties either. STOVL is unnecessary unless you're imperialist scum seeking to coerce and dominate foreign countries. If your primary aim is self-defense, just build more long runways, harden them against missile/drone attacks, and keep construction equipment and consumables in nearby underground facilities that can be brought out for rapid repairs.

5) And of course, the repetitive "combat experience" argument. Sorry to burst your bubble buddy, but the US has none either. The US has zero experience facing a peer opponent. USN has zero experience either against any other serious navy in the modern day. No one cares about what you did 80+ years ago in WW2. The biggest threats to the USN post-WW2 have been themselves and Israel lmao. The most "combat experience" they've had was sinking a few tiny Iranian speedboats almost 40 years ago. Sorry, but that is irrelevant. If anyone can actually brag about "naval experience" in the modern day, it's the UK and India, and that's it. Not the USN.
From everything I read in your comment, it sounds like you just have zero idea what you're talking about and have a video game, child's point of view at looking at procurement and doctrine of other countries, and think that in order for China to be equal/on par with the US, is by just emulating anything the US does rather than thinking if it's something they need, fits their requirements, their doctrine, etc. Stop trying to speak about things you have zero idea about and cope. Facts don't care about your feelings. The USN is declining, the PLAN is rapidly growing and there's nothing you or the USN can do about it.

我觉得你根本不知道自己在说什么。

1）中国有与之相当的宙斯盾系统。

2）中国的舰艇不需要标准-3型之类的导弹，他们不像美国那样面临着严重的弹道导弹威胁。没有多少国家拥有大量常规弹道导弹，而那些拥有的国家（比如俄罗斯、伊朗、朝鲜）都和中国“关系友好”，对中国没有威胁。不管怎样，中国在陆地上部署了4到5种不同的专用反导系统，你们大多数人甚至都叫不出它们的名字。中国能在舰艇上安装反弹道导弹防御导弹吗？能，但这不是优先事项，也不是主要需求。不过以中国的情况，可能已经装在舰艇上了，只是没人知道而已。

3）你错了。052B型和052C型首批舰艇使用的是乌克兰的UGT-25000型发动机。但052C型第二批、052D型/052DL型以及055型驱逐舰使用的是基于乌克兰发动机的国产衍生型号GT-25000型发动机。还有，QC280是由中国航空发动机集团（AECC）制造的UGT-25000型发动机的国产版本，它是受中国船舶集团（CSSC）委托生产的

澄清一下，安装在中国人民解放军海军军舰上的所有基于UGT-25000型发动机衍生的舰用燃气轮机都是中国船舶集团的GT-25000型，现在已更名为CGT-25M型。就在大约两个多月前的12月，中国船舶集团正式公布并展示了国产的CGT30和CGT40型舰用燃气轮机，它们分别属于30兆瓦和40兆瓦级别。这些发动机很可能会用于052D型和055型驱逐舰的后续型号上。

4）中国不需要短距/垂直起降（STOVL）技术。没人在意F-35B在“美国”级两栖攻击舰上起降。中国有076型两栖攻击舰，它能够让歼-35等各种固定翼飞机和无人机起降，功能更加多样。如果我们只看简单的规格以及哪款舰艇能真正像“航母”一样发挥作用，在这方面“美国”级两栖攻击舰根本比不上076型。你还认为两栖攻击舰就是航母。不，它们不是。

如果我没记错的话，一艘两栖攻击舰（LHD）的载弹量只有一艘核动力航母（CVN）的6%左右。这些两栖攻击舰的出动率，会让中国的滑跃起飞阻拦着舰（STOBAR）型航母看起来都像“福特”级航母一样高效。在面对任何一个强劲对手时，把两栖攻击舰当作“航母”来用是毫无用处的，所以你的观点很可笑。

我不理解为什么会对短距/垂直起降技术有这种莫名其妙的迷恋。F-35B是目前F-35系列中最差的型号，而且由于美国海军陆战队想分一杯羹，它差点搞砸了整个F-35项目。垂直/短距起降（V/STOL）技术就像可变后掠翼技术一样，是一条死胡同。

对于非小型的超音速飞机来说，采用这项技术要做出太多妥协，而且成本高昂。F-35B极其复杂。如果不是靠F-35A和F-35C的销售来分担一部分研发成本，它会是一款非常昂贵的飞机。中国也不需要让两栖攻击舰承担航母的职责。除非你是企图胁迫和统治其他国家的帝国主义渣滓，否则短距/垂直起降技术是不必要的。如果你的主要目标是自卫，那就多修建一些长跑道，加固它们以抵御导弹和无人机的攻击，并把建筑设备和消耗品存放在附近的地下设施中，以便能快速进行修复。

5）当然，还有你反复提及的“实战经验”这个观点。很抱歉打破你的幻想，兄弟，但美国也没有（什么像样的实战经验）。美国在面对势均力敌的对手时毫无经验。美国海军在现代也没有与其他任何一支强大海军作战的经验。没人在意你们80多年前在二战中做过什么。二战后，对美国海军最大的威胁其实是他们自己和以色列，笑死。他们所谓最多的“实战经验”就是将近40年前击沉了几艘伊朗的小快艇。很抱歉，但这根本无关紧要。如果说在现代真的有人能吹嘘“海军经验”的话，那也就是英国和印度，仅此而已。不是美国海军。

从你评论的所有内容来看，感觉你根本不知道自己在说什么，而且是以一种玩电子游戏的、幼稚的视角来看待其他国家的军备采购和军事战略，还认为中国要想和美国平起平坐，就只能模仿美国，而不是思考这些东西是不是自己需要的，是否符合自己的需求和军事战略等等。别再秀无知了。面对现实吧。事实可不会顾及你的感受。美国海军正在衰落，中国人民解放军海军正在迅速发展，美国海军对此都无能为力。

Heidi332K
I hope China is develo defensive solutions to help those landing craft and amphibious vehicles reach shore. Drones, both airborne and seaborne, will be a huge threat to any type of vehicle trying to reach shore.
In Ukraine, once your vehicle gets disabled by drones, there is a chance you can always escape and run into the trees and wait till nightfall to get an extraction. How does that work when you are in the middle of water? You either sink with your vehicle or you float on the surface until a drone gets you

我希望中国正在研发防御方案，才能让那些登陆艇和两栖战车顺利上岸。空中和海上的无人机，对任何试图上岸的车辆来说都构成严重的威胁。

在乌克兰，一旦你的车辆被无人机摧毁，你还有机会逃进树林里，等到夜幕降临再撤离。但如果你在水中央，这就行不通了。你要么和你的车辆一起沉没，要么漂浮在水面上，直到被无人机攻击。

wang-rw6cd
China's UAV production capacity and UAV advanced are the world's top

中国的无人机生产能力和无人机先进程度都位居世界前列。

LetsEndHumanity
Yawnnnnnn. More copying.

又是抄袭。