在白宫椭圆形办公室“吵翻”了，不欢而散，被赶出白宫！特朗普、泽连斯基最新表态耐人寻味

Oval office confrontation: Trump-Zelenskyy meet signals limits of western power

在白宫椭圆形办公室发生的对峙：特朗普与泽连斯基的会面，彰显西方权力的局限性

For weeks, American allies worked behind the scenes to keep Washington and Kyiv aligned. Then, in less than two minutes, it all unraveled. When President Donald Trump and Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelenskyy met in the White House on Friday, the world expected tense but calculated diplomacy. Instead, what unfolded was a political spectacle—finger-pointing, raised voices, and a stark ultimatum from Trump: “You either make a deal or we are out.”

Zelenskyy, caught between survival and strategy, tried to push back, warning of Putin’s history of broken promises. But Trump and his Vice President, JD Vance, shut him down, painting him as ungrateful and reckless. The meeting, meant to reinforce US-Ukraine relations, ended in disaster. Planned lunches and press conferences were scrapped, and Zelenskyy was shown the door.

数周以来，美国的盟友们一直在幕后努力，试图让华盛顿方面与基辅保持一致立场。然而，不到两分钟的时间，一切努力都化为泡影。周五，当唐纳德·特朗普总统与乌克兰总统弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基在白宫会面时，全世界都预期会看到一场气氛紧张但经过精心谋划的外交活动。但实际发生的却是一场政治闹剧。双方相互指责、声音抬高，特朗普还发出了严厉的最后通牒：“你要么达成协议，要么我们就退出。”

泽连斯基陷入了生存与战略的两难境地，他试图反驳，警告称普京有违背承诺的前科。但特朗普和他的副总统JD·万斯打断了他的话，指责他忘恩负义且行事鲁莽。这场本应巩固美乌关系的会面最终以灾难性的结局收场。原计划的午餐会和新闻发布会都被取消，泽连斯基也被“请”出了门。

"You have to be thankful. You don’t have the cards," Trump said, adding: "You gotta be more thankful." "Have you said thank you once this entire meeting?" Vance echoed.

The fallout was immediate. Zelenskyy took to X, carefully expressing gratitude to the American people while subtly signaling concern. Meanwhile, Trump’s administration quietly moved forward with backchannel talks with Moscow, fueling speculation about a major shift in US foreign policy.

"We are very grateful to the United States for all the support. I’m thankful to President Trump, Congress for their bipartisan support, and American people. Ukrainians have always appreciated this support, especially during these three years of full-scale invasion," Zelenskyy said.

“你得心怀感激。你手中没有筹码。”特朗普说道，还补充道：“你得更加感恩才行。”“在整个会面过程中，你说过哪怕一次感谢的话吗？”万斯附和道。

后果立竿见影。泽连斯基在X平台上发声，小心翼翼地向美国人民表达了感激之情，同时也微妙地流露出了担忧的情绪。与此同时，特朗普政府悄然推进与莫斯科的秘密谈判，这引发了外界对美国外交政策将发生重大转变的猜测。

泽连斯基表示：“我们非常感谢美国给予的所有支持。我感谢特朗普总统、感谢美国国会两党给予的支持，也感谢美国人民。乌克兰人民一直都很感激这种支持，尤其是在这遭受全面入侵的三年里。”

以下是印度时报读者的评论：

Tilakdhari
Why Ukraine is at war and whats behind the unprecedented Trump-Vance-Zelenskyy flare up at The Oval Office.
1. Ukraine is the largest Country of Europe outside Russia.
2. ⁠“About 5 % of all the world’s ‘CRITICAL RAW MATERIALS’ are located in Ukraine, which occupies only 0.4 percent of the Earth’s surface.
3. ⁠Ukraine has deposits of 22 of the 34 minerals identified by the European Union as CRITICAL, including the trillions of dollars worth RARE EARTH METALS (REM).
4. The USA is demanding a $500 billion Agreement with Ukrainian for the military aid supplied to it. USA wants to harvest 50% of all these Minerals.
5. ⁠While the independent sources say the USA military aid maybe around € 114 billion ($ 118 billion).
6. President Zelenskyy too has contested Trump’s claim by saying, “One cannot count up to $500bn and say, ‘Give us back $500bn in minerals.’ That’s not a serious discussion,” Zelenskyy said on February 19.
7. President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is fine with the Minerals Agreement with the USA. But he wants the SECURITY GUARANTEE AGAINST RUSSIAN AGGRESSION. Is that not a fair expectation
8. But President Trump is non-committal about it. He wants the European Countries to handle that part and be in the driver’s seat when it comes to security.
9. But Russia is opposed to any European force in the Ukraine. The European Leaders are taken aback by Trump’s exclusion of Ukraine and European Leaders from Ukraine peace Talks.
10. The Europe is also divided over deploying troops in Ukraine. While UK and Sweden have offered to do so, as a part of future peace deal, Germany is opposed to it.
CONCLUSION:
It’s the Minerals Ukraine have Which appear to be the ultimate motive of both, its enemy State and also its potential saviour.
Democracy PeaceThat’s for the books, posturing and the Conferences on picturesque locations

为何乌克兰陷入战争，特朗普、万斯与泽连斯基在椭圆形办公室那场前所未有的激烈冲突背后又有何隐情？

1. 乌克兰是欧洲除俄罗斯外面积最大的国家。

2. 全球约5%的“关键原材料”蕴藏于乌克兰，而乌克兰的面积仅占地球表面积的0.4%。

3. 在欧盟认定的34种关键矿产中，乌克兰拥有其中22种的储量，其中包括价值数万亿美元的稀土金属。

4. 美国向乌克兰提供军事援助，现正要求与乌方达成一项价值5000亿美元的协议。美国企图获取乌克兰50%的矿产资源。

5. 然而，独立消息来源称，美国的军事援助金额可能约为1140亿欧元（1180亿美元）。

6. 泽连斯基总统也对特朗普的说法提出质疑，他于2月19日表示：“不能算出5000亿美元后，就说‘用价值5000亿美元的矿产来偿还’。这可不是一场严肃的讨论。”

7. 弗拉基米尔·泽连斯基总统对与美国签署矿产协议并无异议。但他希望获得针对俄罗斯的安全保障。这难道不是一个合理的诉求吗？

8. 但特朗普总统对此态度含糊。他希望欧洲国家来处理这方面事务，并在安全问题上起主导作用。

9. 然而，俄罗斯反对任何欧洲势力进入乌克兰。特朗普将乌克兰及欧洲领导人排除在乌克兰和平谈判之外，这让欧洲领导人颇为震惊。

10. 欧洲各国在是否向乌克兰派兵的问题上也存在分歧。英国和瑞典已表示愿意在未来的和平协议框架内派兵，而德国则持反对态度。

结论：乌克兰所拥有的矿产资源，似乎既是其敌对国家的终极目标，也是其潜在“救星”的觊觎对象。

所谓的“民主与和平”，不过是书本上的空谈、装腔作势的姿态，以及在风景如画之地召开的会议上的高谈阔论罢了。

Alisha Roy
Literally the best perspective on the crisis I have seen so far from the Indian side! This should be mandatory reading to all these clowns here rooting for the Trump-Vance Russian puppets.

这绝对是我目前从印度视角看到的有关这场危机的最佳观点了！那些支持特朗普、万斯这些“俄罗斯傀儡”的小丑们，应该好好看看楼上这个评论。

Bhaskar Dutta
Trump and J D Vance did the right thing.. They showed the real position of Zelensky. Really surprised to see the audacity and arrogance of Zelensky. It doesn't make sense for a foreign president like Zelensky to come to a country with a begging bowl asking for favour and equipments for Survival and at the same time raising voice against the very same administration who is supposed to help him, ridiculous.

特朗普和J.D.万斯做得对。他们揭露了泽连斯基的真实立场。看到泽连斯基如此大胆和傲慢，真是令人惊讶。像泽连斯基这样的外国总统，拿着“讨饭碗”来到一个国家，祈求给予生存所需的装备，却同时对本应帮助他的政府表示反对，这毫无道理，简直荒谬至极。

Suresh S
Jocker Zelensky will lose everything, he has killed his own people, destroyed his own country by teaming up with Europe and earlier US regime. He will suffer for this and his country as well...

小丑泽连斯基将失去一切。他与欧洲及美国之前的政权勾结，害死了自己的人民，毁掉了自己的国家。他将为此付出代价，他的国家也会付出代价

A WISE Indian
Ukrain needs to understand that to guarantee peace in the region they need to compromise. There's no other way to stop the bullets flying. Putin wants to grab a partition of their land. In exchange of what? NATO membership maybe? They have no other choices left. And it is absolutely clear that Trump won't allocate billions of dollars for funding their war. So it's my way or the highway.

乌克兰需要明白，要确保该地区的和平，他们就需要做出妥协。除此之外，别无他法阻止战火纷飞。

普京想要夺取他们的部分领土。以什么作为交换呢？也许是北约成员国身份？他们已别无选择。而且很明显，特朗普不会拨款数十亿美元来资助他们的战争。所以，要么照我说的做，要么就拉倒。

RK
When you want to fight, fight with your strength and not on borrowed!! That will not end well for you!

如果你想战斗，就凭借自己的实力去战斗，而不是依靠别人的力量！不然，结局对你不会好的！

Gyan Vigyan
Now the guard in Ukraine will change

现在，乌克兰的局势将会发生变化。

No Need To Contril Others
At least we all can agree that US protected by two oceans and two friendly neighbours, it may not have the perspective of countries like India that are surrounded by supremacist, fascist, ideologically hyper driven nations….

至少我们都得承认，美国有两大洋以及两个友好邻国的庇护，它可能无法体会像印度这样被至上主义、法西斯主义以及意识形态极端化的国家所包围的国家的处境

No Need To Contril Others
Feel sorry for Ukraine. But not for Europe.. it was fine when West Pakistani Muslims were committing genocide in then East Pakistan murdering 3 million people mostly Hindus, 200000 to 400000 women were raped. Not only that, the same brits actively colluded with US and Pakistan and sent the US fifth fleet to attack India. One can only imagine the worsening plight of Indians and Hindus, had it not been Soviet Union’s submarines’ rescue that deterred the US, UK invasion.

为乌克兰感到惋惜。但不会同情欧洲。当初西巴基斯坦的军队在当时的东巴基斯坦实施种族灭绝，杀害了300万人，其中大多是印度教徒，还有20万到40万女性被强奸，那时也没见欧洲出来说两句。

不仅如此，英国人还积极勾结美国和巴基斯坦，意图派遣美国第五舰队进攻印度。可以想象，如果不是苏联潜艇的救援行动阻止了美英的入侵，印度人和印度教徒当时的处境会变得多么糟糕。

User Jawan
looser usa was mocking and insulting zilinsky & disrespecting his country. Zilinsky wasted his time gong to looser usa

美国一直在嘲笑、侮辱泽连斯基，还不尊重他的国家。泽连斯基跑去美国求助，纯粹是浪费时间。

Arjun Sahgal
In his outburst against Zelensky, Trump shows that insanity exsts outside asylums. I simply would not have believed that a US president (or vice-president) could throw such tantrums; to call that behaviour childish is to insult children. Perhaps more pointedly, such outbursts bode ill for the future of the world. Like it or not, Trump is the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth, and his showdown with Zelensky illustrates how future political negotiations and action might proceed; Trump has brought WWIII closer.

特朗普对泽连斯基的大发雷霆表明，疯狂并不只存在于精神病院。我简直不敢相信一位美国总统（或副总统）会如此大发脾气；说这种行为幼稚都是在侮辱孩子。或许更确切地说，这种情绪爆发对世界的未来是个不祥之兆。不管你愿不愿意承认，特朗普是地球上最强大国家的领导人，他与泽连斯基的对峙也说明了未来的政治谈判和行动可能会如何发展；特朗普让第三次世界大战离我们更近了。

User alishetti
Zelinsky was right in whatever he said. He is hero to his countrymen.

泽连斯基说的话无论哪点都是对的。他是他的同胞们心中的英雄。

Pranay
I think trump fears of only modiji..it's right opportunity to take over usa Nd make it akhand bharat..I am mundbhakt so this is my view

我觉得特朗普只怕莫迪先生。现在是接管美国并将其纳入“大一统印度”的好机会。我是莫迪的支持者，这是我的观点。

Parichay Gupta
Excellent!

太棒了！

Ashish Jain
No you are not Mundbhakt, you are Jihadi

不，你不是莫迪的支持者，你是个极端主义者。

User Kallukaran
Donal cannot be trusted

特朗普不可信。

Ashish Jain
Just imagine we have a confrontation with China, we talk to Chinese for 3 years and we have been able to resolve lot of things. We are the 5th largest economy and when Modi goes to meet Trump inspite of the fact we buy Oil and Weapons from Russia, his way of talking was polite, effable, friendly, adjusting to the realities and working for deal with Trump, seeking best interest of both nations. Never did Modi ever try to dictate but now just look at how Zelensky is behaving. Who cares about Ukraine, why should he appear in Davos, in Oscars, in Grammy, when even Trump doesn't show up for that. Is Zelensky the President of the World, who the F is he, will he feed everyone of you, will he provide weapons for all of you, will he provide the space technology, the quantum technology, the semiconductor technology, AI technology. Who is Zelensky, what is Ukraine's value to the World, at least he should talk sensibly with Trump.

试想一下，如果我们与中国发生对峙，我们和中国人谈了三年，而且已经解决了很多问题。我们是世界第五大经济体，莫迪去会见特朗普时，尽管我们从俄罗斯购买石油和武器，但他的谈吐礼貌、和蔼、友好，能适应现实情况，努力与特朗普达成协议，寻求两国的最大利益。

莫迪从不会试图发号施令。但现在看看泽连斯基的处境。谁会在意乌克兰呢，他为什么要出现在达沃斯论坛、奥斯卡颁奖典礼、格莱美奖典礼上呢，就连特朗普都不会出席这些活动。泽连斯基是世界总统吗，他到底是谁啊，他会养活你们所有人吗，他会给你们所有人提供武器吗，他会提供太空技术、量子技术、半导体技术、人工智能技术吗。

泽连斯基是谁，乌克兰对世界有什么价值，至少他应该和特朗普理智地对话。

Parichay Gupta
Buying US oil is Not. Buying F35 is Not. Abandoning Iran and Russia is Not. Granting $$ to Pakistan for F16 maintenance is not. Bullying with Tariff Threat is Not. . . . And, this is after India already reduced tariff on Harley Davidson from 110% to 15%. Deporting Indians in CHAINS in Military Cargo plane even when the Phrend was still on US soil is Not. . . .

购买美国石油是错误的。购买F-35战斗机是错误的。抛弃伊朗和俄罗斯是错误的。给巴基斯坦拨款用于F-16战斗机的维护是错误的。用关税威胁来霸凌他国也是错误的。

而且，这还是在印度已经将哈雷戴维森摩托车的关税从110%降至15%之后发生的事。甚至用军用运输机将印度人戴上镣铐驱逐出境，这也是错误的

Guest
all leaders are not bootlickers

并非所有领导人都是谄媚之徒。

jupitor
It was a BAD idea for Democrats 2008-2016 and then 2020 to 2024 to encourage Ukraine and give them false hopes of joining NATO. They didn't do it in 2008, and Russia took Cremia in 2014, effectively ending any chance they had to get into NATO. No NATO country would have gone to war with Russia over Cremia. NATO rules effectively prevented Ukraine from joining with exsting border disputes with Russia.

2008年至2016年，以及2020年至2024年期间，美国民主党忽悠乌克兰，让他们燃起了加入北约的希望。

2008年他们没这么做，而2014年俄罗斯占领了克里米亚，实际上断绝了乌克兰加入北约的机会。

没有哪个北约国家会为了克里米亚与俄罗斯开战。北约的规定有效地阻止了乌克兰在与俄罗斯存在边境争端的情况下加入北约。