China imposes retaliatory tariffs on Canadian farm and food products

中国对加拿大农产品和食品加征报复性关税

China on Saturday announced retaliatory tariffs on some Canadian farm and food imports, after Canada imposed duties in October on Chinese-made electric vehicles and steel and aluminum products.

The new duties become effective March 20, according to a statement by the Customs Tariff Commission of the State Council. Additional 100% tariffs will be imposed on Canadian rapeseed oil, oil cakes and peas, and additional 25% tariffs will apply to pork and aquatic products.

周六，在中国于10月份对中国制造的电动汽车以及钢铁和铝制品加征关税后，中国宣布对部分从加拿大进口的农产品和食品加征报复性关税。

根据国务院关税税则委员会发布的一份声明，这些新关税将于3月20日起生效。中国将对加拿大的菜籽油、油籽饼粕和豌豆加征100%的关税，对猪肉和水产品加征25%的关税。

The tariffs add to global trade tensions already high, with rounds of tariff announcements by the United States, China, Canada and Mexco.

The duties come in retaliation for Ottawa imposing tariffs against Chinese imports in October, including a 100% surtax on all Chinese-made EVs and 25% on steel and aluminum imports.

随着美国、中国、加拿大和墨西哥相继宣布多轮关税措施，这些关税进一步加剧了本已高企的全球贸易紧张局势。

此次加征关税是对渥太华方面10月份对中国进口商品加征关税的报复措施。加拿大当时的举措包括对所有中国制造的电动汽车加征100%的附加税，对进口的中国钢铁和铝制品加征25%的关税。

以下是美国雅虎读者的评论：

Maejestic
Excessive tariffs and retaliatory tariffs were a major cause of the 1929-30 Great Depression. Nations of the world ought to negotiate to work out issues more.

过高的关税以及报复性关税，是造成1929年至1930年经济大萧条的一个主要诱因。世界各国理应更多地通过协商来解决问题。

Beachgirl
The Great Depression was also caused by stock over-speculation that led to 700 banks collapsing in '29, and 3,000 in 1930 (a massive concentration of wealth of moguls and an investor class of the Roaring 20's).
Granted, the Smoot-Hawley Tariff caused a collapse in world trade, but also the Federal Reserve's policies in the 1920s may have contributed, too.
I get you wrote "a" major cause and not the only cause... I just tried to put that into a context that was larger and more complex.

经济大萧条的成因还包括股票过度投机，造成1929年有700家银行倒闭，1930年则有3000家银行关门大吉（这是20世纪20年代经济繁荣期大亨们和投资者阶层财富的大规模集中所导致的结果）。

当然，《斯穆特-霍利关税法》使得世界贸易陷入崩溃，但20世纪20年代美联储的政策也可能起到了推波助澜的作用。

我明白你写的是“一个”主要原因，并非唯一原因。我只是试着从一个更宏观、更复杂的背景来阐述这件事。

Craig
Preventing immigration also contributed...it devastated the labor force and prevented tax revenue growth.

限制移民也难辞其咎，这严重削弱了我们美国的劳动力队伍，还阻碍了税收增长。

Craig
There were no real issues before trump started this trade war...not sure what you think the rest of the world is suppose to negotiate.

在特朗普挑起这场贸易战之前，根本不存在什么实质性问题。真不知道你觉得世界其他国家还能就什么进行谈判。

Chunk
Had nothing to do with it all. It was about overvaluing and greed.

这根本毫无关系。一切都是源于估值过高和贪婪作祟。

Craig
You literally have no idea what you are talking about...leave this to the adults....chuckles.

你完全不明白自己在说什么，还是把这事儿交给成年人来处理吧

Glenn
Unfortunately the world is connected by globalization. When one falls so do all the rest. I'm not sure people understand our economy and the world economy. It relies on cooperation for success. Yes, tariffs need to be negotiable and agreed upon, if someone decides to step away from an agreement then a tariff war happens, and all bets are off. No one wins in a tariff war except the consumer loses.. The consumer is already suffering because of inflation, if it gets worse, you will see long unemployment lines and a lot of very unhappy voters.

不幸的是，全球化将世界紧密相连。一旦一个国家经济下滑，其他国家也会受到牵连。我不确定人们是否理解本国经济和世界经济的状况。经济的成功依赖于合作。没错，关税需要经过协商并达成一致意见，如果有人决定违背协议，那么关税战就会爆发，届时一切就都难说了。在关税战中没有赢家，受损的只有消费者。消费者已经饱受通货膨胀之苦，如果情况进一步恶化，你就会看到长长的失业队伍和大批极为不满的选民。

BeachGirl
I don't completely agree... Context matters which, like many things that are unpopular off and on, can be both good or bad.
For example, during 40 continuous years of Liberal Progressives controlling the WH and both chambers of Congress (with 2 two-year cycles the exceptions), the US had the highest paid workers in the world, with the highest standard of living, creating the broadest (largest) middle class and the most prosperous. This happened while American businesses flourished and grew. The reason that was possible was that tariffs protected US wage levels.
I agree that the way the GOP uses tariffs is insanity, and arbitrary, and even poisonous to our own economic health. But tariffs are just a tool that can be used well, or used like a sledge to break and destroy.

我并不完全认同。背景很重要，关税可能有利也有弊。

例如，在自由进步派连续40年掌控白宫和国会参众两院期间（仅有两个两年周期除外），美国拥有世界上薪资最高的工人，生活水平也最高，造就了最庞大的中产阶级，国家最为繁荣昌盛。与此同时，美国企业蓬勃发展。之所以能如此，是因为关税保护了美国的工资水平。

我承认，共和党使用关税的方式简直疯狂、专断，甚至对本国经济有害。但关税只是一种工具，可以被合理运用，也可能被当作大锤用于破坏和摧毁。

J
Non co unist countries can't compete when every business is subsidized in that country and there way of life isn't what a free nation is the US was fine importing few products mostly raw materials like fruit compounds etc before the collapse of US manufacturing by the 70's then the offshore off dirty manufacturing and super cheap labor won the hearts of corporations and green activists put it in there hands you can only blame politicians and unions.

当一个国家的所有企业都享受补贴时，其他国家就难以与之竞争。在20世纪70年代美国制造业崩溃之前，美国进口的产品很少，主要是水果制品等原材料，情况还算不错。后来，海外的低质制造业和极其廉价的劳动力赢得了企业的青睐，而环保主义者又推波助澜。对此，你只能归咎于政客和工会。

Sacto
Too bad liberals didnt think " no one wins" when Bidens imposed tarriffs on China.

真遗憾，当拜登政府对中国加征关税时，那些自由派人士可没想到“没有赢家”这一点。

Chunk
Do you mean like when Nazi Germany fell? O Fascist Italy Fell? Or Dic ship Iraq fell? The world does business, it is not connected. Wake up.

你是说像纳粹德国的覆灭？还是法西斯意大利的垮台？亦或是伊拉克的衰败？世界各国进行贸易往来，但并非紧密相连。醒醒吧。

ron
Canada will have to determine which country is the biggest threat to its security, the US or China. Personally, China would be the best ally due to her consistency. The US is a high risk ally (ex-ally) as every 4 years all prior deals will be suddenly changed.
That said, no one can compete with Chinese EV's. Tough call here Canada. Good luck Neighbor! I still love you guys.

加拿大必须确定哪个国家对其安全构成的威胁最大，是美国还是中国。就个人而言，中国会是最佳盟友，因为中国立场始终如一。美国则是一个高风险的盟友（或者说是前盟友），四年之前的所有协议都会突然被更改。

话虽如此，没人能与中国的电动汽车竞争。加拿大，这可真是个艰难的抉择。祝你好运，邻居！我依然爱你们。

Chunk
So how long you figure Canada would be an ally before China has full control over it? Because China's goal is to control the world. Or do you deny that too?

那么你觉得在被中国完全控制之前，加拿大能做多久的盟友呢？中国的目标是控制世界。难道你连这一点也要否认吗？

Rudy
Canada, not as a sovereign state, used US laws to unjustly detained Huawei's CEO daughter, Meng, because of industrial competition to detain her for 3-years in British Columbia. May be Canada had always wanted to be the 51st state and now is the opportunity.

加拿大并非以一个主权国家的姿态行事，出于行业竞争的原因，它依据美国法律在不列颠哥伦比亚省非法拘禁了华为首席执行官的女儿孟晚舟长达三年之久。也许加拿大一直都想成为美国的第51个州，而现在正是个机会。

Piered
Canadians never wanted to be part of the USA.
Most of us are very upset at the USA right now.

加拿大人从来都不想成为美国的一部分。

我们大多数人现在对美国都非常不满。

J
It wouldn't be much a fight to take it.

我们美国要拿下加拿大，不用费多大周折。

Lachklurre
"Canada announced tariffs on Chinese goods last August following similar duties being imposed by the U.S. and the European Union against Chinese-made EVs and other products."
It's about time Canada pursues an independent trade policy instead of trying to be in lock-step with the ungrateful US.

“去年8月，在美国和欧盟对中国制造的电动汽车及其他产品加征类似关税之后，加拿大也宣布对中国商品加征关税。”

加拿大早该推行独立的贸易政策了，而不是一味地紧跟忘恩负义的美国的步伐。

Blah
yea, those 200% tariffs on US dairy into canada pre trump are totes the move of a grateful ally.

是啊，在特朗普上台之前，加拿大对美国乳制品加征200%的关税，这可真是个“感恩”盟友的所作所为啊。

ant
China subsidized their EV makers just like US subsidized theirs. However, Tesla dominated the market especially in the early years so Tesla took most of those subsidies.

中国对本国电动汽车制造商提供补贴，就如同美国对其本国制造商的补贴一样。然而，特斯拉在市场上占据主导地位，尤其是在早期，所以特斯拉获得了大部分的补贴。

Aceman
Wow, Canada making friends all over the world. How many weeks before you think your economy will collapse.

哇塞，加拿大这是在满世界“交朋友”啊。你觉得再过几个星期你们的经济会崩溃呢？

Plissken
One third of US factories are sitting idle right now. It only takes two months to retool. Bring manufacturing back to the US.

目前，美国三分之一的工厂都处于闲置状态。重新调整设备只需两个月时间。把制造业带回美国吧。

Nemeesis
I worked in factories almost my entire life. It would take managers more than two months to decide what color fence to put up around a project of “retooling” a factory. I was working at General Dynamics in San Diego when they decided to expand the machine shop to accept large CNC mills. It took them well over a year and when they started running the machines they discovered they had placed them too close together and they crashed into each other. It would take close to the end of Trumps term before all those idle factories could be up and running. Great, now try and find workers willing to be paid what Chinese, Indian, Vietnamese etc accept. If iPhones were made by people in the USA they would cost $10,000. Sneakers…$600 a pair. The only way for us to stop importing cheap goods is by ending globalism and having a self contained economy. That will never happen as long as capitalism is in force. Try telling shareholders they can’t take advantage of foreign cheap labor.

我几乎一辈子都在工厂工作。对于一个工厂“设备改造”项目，经理们要花两个多月的时间来决定该用什么颜色的围栏。我在圣地亚哥的通用动力公司工作时，他们决定扩建机械车间以容纳大型数控机床。这花了他们一年多的时间，而当他们启动机器时，却发现机器之间摆放得太近，结果相互碰撞。几乎要等到特朗普任期结束，所有那些闲置的工厂才可能重新开工运营。

很好，现在试着去找那些愿意接受和中国、印度、越南等地工人同等薪资的美国工人吧。如果iPhone是由美国工人制造的，那售价可能会高达1万美元。运动鞋一双600美元。我们停止进口廉价商品的唯一办法就是终结全球主义，建立一个自给自足的经济体系。但只要资 本主义依然存在，这就永远不可能实现。试着告诉股东们，他们不能再利用国外的廉价劳动力吧。

Plissken
I have also worked in factories my whole life. You have to get the right people for the projects. Obviously your management people could not handle it, which is typical for in-house management. We had a whole plant added to our facility that was contracted out and it was done in a year.

我也一辈子都在工厂打工。你得为项目找到合适的人选。显然，你们的管理人员无法胜任，这是内部管理的典型问题。我们的工厂新增了一整个车间，是外包出去建设的，一年就完工了。

Soudypants
You don't get it. US lost manufacturing jobs because other countries, like China pay their workers peanuts. All GOP did when Biden was in power, was complain about the cost of everything. If you bring the manufacturing jobs back to the USA, the USA won't be able to afford anything they make.

你不明白。美国失去了制造业岗位，是因为其他国家，比如中国给工人的工资很低。拜登执政期间，共和党所做的一切就是抱怨所有东西的成本。如果你把制造业岗位带回美国，美国人会买不起自己生产的商品。

truth
I love tariffs. It is a consumption/luxury tax that is voluntary. It evens the paying field where those who don't pay taxes yet receive "refunds" every year can start pulling the wagon too. Clearly with a 36 TRILLION debt the government needs much more people paying taxes at higher amount. 90% would almost cover the Govs spending but I'm sure they can think of hundreds of more programs that will need billions a year to fund.

我喜欢关税。它是一种自愿缴纳的消费税或奢侈品税。它能使纳税环境更加公平，那些不用纳税却每年还能得到“退税”的人也能开始为国家出力了。显然，在政府背负36万亿美元债务的情况下，需要更多的人缴纳更高数额的税款。税收达到90%几乎就能覆盖政府的支出了，但我敢肯定，他们还能想出数百个每年需要数十亿美元资金支持的项目。

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