BYD’s 1000 kW Charging Shocks the EV World!
比亚迪的1000千瓦快充技术,震惊了电动汽车界!
Chinese automotive giant BYD is set to unveil a groundbreaking battery electric vehicle (BEV) platform and ultra-fast charging technology on Monday, March 17th, at its Shenzhen headquarters.
The company’s “BYD Super e-Platform” launch event promises to introduce charging capabilities that significantly surpass current industry standards, including Tesla’s latest Supercharger.
The highlight of the event will be the unveiling of BYD’s new ultra-fast charging technology. As per reports, it can have a staggering 1,000 kW of power.
“1,000-kW flash charging that allows refueling and charging to have the same speed,” reads a promotional poster released by BYD, according to CnEVPost.
中国汽车巨头比亚迪将于3月17日在位于深圳的总部,推出一个具有开创性的纯电动汽车(BEV)平台以及超快速充电技术。
该公司的“比亚迪超级e平台”发布活动有望推出远超当前行业标准的充电能力,就连特斯拉最新的超级充电桩也望尘莫及。
此次活动的亮点是比亚迪全新超快速充电技术的亮相。据报道,这项技术的充电功率可达惊人的1000千瓦。
比亚迪发布的一张宣传海报上写道:“1000千瓦的闪速充电,让加油和充电速度一样快。”
以下是外国网友的评论:
Kiwicountry
This is what people want, being able to charge up in under 10 minutes going through a drive through station just like petrol/diesel
这正是人们所期盼的,能够像给汽车加油那样,驾车通过一个快速充电站,在10分钟内完成充电。
vincentcausey8498
Of course that's what people want, but it's not scalable and will never be rolled out in anything like the numbers needed to support a large BEV fleet.
当然,这是人们梦寐以求的。但这种充电方式不具备可扩展性,而且永远无法满足大规模纯电动汽车车队的需求
BeReytM8
The instant grid capacity needed to support even a few cars at that rate would be expensive. I doubt there will be many charge stations at these levels of power.
即便只是以这样的速度为少数几辆车充电,所需的即时电网容量成本也会很高。我怀疑,具备如此高功率水平的充电站不会太多。
mikeshafer
10min charging to 80%+ would be a game changer for the EV industry.
能在10分钟内充电至80%以上,这对电动汽车行业来说,将是一个具有变革性的突破。
undercoveraca
20-80% looks closer to 5 minutes IRL - the same as refuelling, but where you spend the 5 minutes checking socials not dribbling petrol on your shoes and lining up to pay
在现实中,从电量20%充到80%,差不多只需5分钟,这和加油用时一样。不过在这5分钟里,你可以查看社交平台,而不用像加油时那样,担心汽油滴到鞋子上,还得排队付款。
thethirdman225
@undercoveraca I timed myself refuelling my car the other day and it took more than seven minutes, including the time I had to take to go into the shop and pay. That was for 35 litres and with nobody ahead of me in the queue at the register.
The “five minute fill up” time we are being referenced to hides a number of things, not the least, the fact that you can’t walk away and have a pee while you’re filling up. And 35 litres is not that much. While it wouldn’t take twice as long to put 70 litres in (you only have to pay once), it would still take somewhat longer.
I calculated that if you fill up on average 2.5 times a week, you can easily spend more than 17 hours of every year standing at a petrol pump.
The people I know with EVs rarely use charge point. They all charge at home. While they’re asleep or doing something productive.
前几天我给自己的车加油时掐了下时间,包括进店付款的时间,一共花了7分多钟。那次加了35升油,而且在收银台付款时前面也没有人排队。
我们常说的“5分钟加满油”其实掩盖了很多情况,最起码,加油的时候你不能走开去上厕所。而且35升油也不算多。虽然加70升油不会花两倍的时间(因为只需要付一次钱),但还是会多花一些时间。
我计算过,如果你平均每周加油2.5次,那么每年你很容易就会在加油站耗上超过17个小时。
我认识的那些开电动汽车的人很少使用充电站。他们都是在家里充电,趁着睡觉或者做其他事情的时候充电。
lukebrinsmead
If you live in an apartment fast charging is a must, because the charging stations can get busy. If you live in a house and don’t need to charge elsewhere you would only need regular speed charging.
要是你住在公寓里,那快速充电就很有必要了,因为充电站可能会很繁忙。要是你住在独栋房子里,而且不需要在其他地方充电,那普通速度的充电就足够了。
amandagrant4331
Many city residents in China live in apartments, but even if they live in apartments, many residents can get parking spaces (ground or underground).
It is almost free to apply for installing (private) charging pile, because almost all city governments are willing to provide subsidies (for the sake of environment protection).
许多中国城市居民都住在公寓里,不过即便住在公寓,很多居民也有停车位,地面或地下的。
申请安装私人充电桩几乎是免费的,几乎所有的城市政府都愿意提供补贴,为了保护环境嘛
MAbdul-k3i
This is great for electric mid-haul trucks.
这对电动中程卡车来说,真是太棒了。
kevinh8338
What is the power? 1250 amps at 800v requires a lot of copper, 3 sets of 600 kcmil (1” copper). Copper crooks going to go crazy on this, nevermind the weight of the cables
功率是多少呢?800伏电压下1250安培的电流需要大量的铜,得用3组600千圆密耳(直径约1英寸的铜电缆)。这会让那些偷铜贼们疯狂觊觎,更不用说电缆本身的重量了。
philipbroggio9315
I currently have a Zoe with 200 mile range and 50kW charge rate. This works ok for me as I am retired and not in a rush. If I could get a Zoe size car with 300 minimum range (winter condition) and charge at 150 kW for £20k I would be more than happy
我现在开的是一辆佐伊(Zoe)电动汽车,续航里程为200英里,充电功率是50千瓦。
我觉得还可以,我已经退休了,不赶时间。要是能花2万英镑买到一辆和佐伊差不多大小,最低续航里程达到300英里(在冬季条件下),并且充电功率能达到150千瓦的车,我会非常开心。
bantumorpheus4496
1000kw/hr Charging IS Next-Level, and a Total GAME-CHANGER For BYD & the Chinese Manufacturing Industry, yet Again! -- China IS the NEW WORLD Leader in both Manufacturing & Industrial Revolution in City Building & Planning!
每小时1000千瓦的充电功率堪称顶级,这又一次彻底改变了比亚迪以及中国制造业的格局!
中国在制造业以及城市建设和规划的产业革命方面,已然成为新的世界领军者!
rosswalters3788
Faster charging speed is great, but there is also a need for a real-world range of at least 500km. These WLTP and CLTC ranges are not real-world ranges and are fake ranges that confuses people.
更快的充电速度固然很棒,但电动汽车的实际续航里程也得至少达到500公里才行。那些世界轻型汽车测试规程(WLTP)和中国轻型汽车行驶工况(CLTC)所标注的续航里程,并非实际续航里程,都是会误导人的虚假数据。
minanovkiril
im an electrical engineer. i don see a problem with 1 MW on 1kV platform. i would say that 10 MW on 20 kV is on its way. you have these type of 1 MW chargers already in Germany for eTrucks. nothingspec. and they plan 2 MW and 3 MW for trucks in the next few years. so, for cars somewhere between 5 MW and 10 MW double gun chargers will be the standard in the next 10 years, well at least in china and that means on the planet soon after. don forget that inductive charging is also the path fw.
its a technical problem lol not a political or ideological one, so it can be fixed, the industry is ready
我是一名电气工程师。我觉得在1千伏的平台上实现1兆瓦的充电功率没什么问题。
我认为,20千伏电压下实现10兆瓦的充电功率也指日可待。
在德国,电动卡车已经配备了这样的充电器,这没什么特别的。
而且他们计划在未来几年内,为卡车提供2兆瓦和3兆瓦功率的充电器。
所以,在未来10年里,对于汽车来说,5兆瓦到10兆瓦的双枪充电器将会成为标准配置,至少在中国是这样,这也意味着很快在全球范围内都会如此。
别忘了,感应充电也是未来的发展方向之一。这只是个技术问题,哈哈,而不是政治或意识形态问题,所以是可以解决的,而且行业已经做好了准备。
johnp1752
All we need is for the charging infrastructure to be installed. I'm in an apartment with zero level 3 chargers within 10kms. It makes charging difficult and lengthy when your trapped using 22kw.
我们所需要的就是完善充电基础设施。我住在公寓里,周围10公里内都没有三级充电器。如果只能用22千瓦的充电器,那充电既麻烦又耗时。
jacquesmainguy1
Soon, the biggest charging "headache" will be: slow-charge in my garage at 8cts/Kwh, or fast-charge on the road at several times that price?
很快,充电最大的难题会是:是在自家车库以每度电8美分的价格慢速充电,还是在道路上以几倍的价格进行快速充电呢?
Atheist-Libertarian
This is far better than larger battery (range).
Anyways people will stop evey 300km for Toilet break for 10mins.
Your car will be fully reddy when you come back after emptying the bladder.
This will also lower the cost and need of battery .
Just build 10min charging point everywhere.
这可比增大电池容量来增大续航里程好多了。
不管怎么说,人们每行驶300公里左右就会停下来休息10分钟上厕所。
等你上完厕所回来,车就已经充满电了。
这还能降低电池的成本和需求。
只需要在各地都建设10分钟就能充满电的充电站就行了。
warbringers
1000V already categorized as medium voltage in some countries. Different rules apply for all the infrastructure and technician.
在一些国家,1000伏的电压已经被归类为中压。相关基础设施和技术人员,都适用不同的规定。
neo1267
Chinese EV drivers will be able to charge their EV's in under 10 minutes and will laugh at EV drivers in the US who take 30 minutes to charge their EV's at Electrify America, EvGo, or Tesla superchargers.
中国的电动汽车驾驶者能够在10分钟内完成充电,他们可能会笑话那些在美国的电动汽车司机,因为后者在Electrify America、EvGo或特斯拉超级充电站充电,得花30分钟。
johnnydub1985
All of these "That's impossible" type comments are gonna be hilarious to read in the future.
Look at where we were with oil production 100 years ago compared to now..
It would have been impossible to have as many vehicles as we do now if we still had the same oil production and refinery numbers as we did 100 years ago. It was impossible for some to imagine a world that produced enough oil for everyone to have a car...
Anyways, we will find a way. It may even seem impossible to imagine right now, but we will find a way.
We always do
以后再看这些“这不可能”之类的评论,肯定会觉得很可笑。
看看100年前的石油产量和现在的对比吧
如果我们还保持着100年前的石油产量和炼油规模,就不可能拥有现在这么多的汽车。对有些人来说,很难想象一个能产出足够石油,让每个人都拥有一辆汽车的世界
不管怎样,我们总会找到解决办法的。也许现在看来这似乎是不可能的,但我们一定能找到办法。
我们向来如此。
JW-mx3qg
It’s incredible how ahead China is on technology! It’s nice to see these kinds of products coming soon. Hope this would relieve the headache on not only finding available chargers but also spending way less time on them
中国技术的领先程度真是令人惊叹!很高兴看到这类产品即将问世。希望这不仅能解决寻找可用充电桩的难题,还能大大减少充电所花费的时间。
saintmichael2931
What a load of crap. The capability to charge at 1MW may be feasible, but where will an EV fill up station be able to source such huge amounts of power to typically simulate a petrol station with say 15 pumps? Every EV filling station would need 15MW of capability which is totally insane (equivalent of power needed to supply over 25,000 homes.
真是一派胡言。1兆瓦的充电能力或许是可行的,但一个电动汽车充电站要从哪里获取如此大量的电力,才能像一个有15个加油枪的加油站那样运营呢?
每个电动汽车充电站都需要15兆瓦的供电能力,这简直太疯狂了,这相当于为25000多户家庭供电所需的电量。
IceCream-8668
Sweden is building the world's first permanent electrified road for EVs to charge while driving
瑞典正在修建世界上第一条永久性的电气化公路,这样电动汽车就可以在行驶过程中充电了。
silversurfer8237
Great content. Australia is going to enjoy the best of EV technology. Ultra fast charging means no more range anxety.
澳大利亚将享受到最先进的电动汽车技术。超快速充电意味着再也不用担心续航里程的问题了。
johnoneill1011
The limiting factor for public chargers in Australia is the cost of ensuring 99% uptime, like fuel bowsers have done for decades. Once that is solved in 5-10 years time, we can worry about the logistics of economically delivering 1MW of power to each charging cable in a 4 charger bay. That will take another 5-10 years, mega $billions of new distribution cables/transformers and a customer base willing to pay for it, while delivering 10% ROIC to the provider.
在澳大利亚,公共充电桩的限制因素在于确保其达到99%的正常运行时间所需的成本,就像燃油加油机几十年来一直做到的那样。如果在5到10年内解决了这个问题,我们才需要考虑如何以经济实惠的方式,为一个有4个充电桩的充电站中的每根充电线提供1兆瓦的电力。
这又需要5到10年的时间,还需要投入数十亿美元,铺设新的配电电缆和安装变压器,并且得有愿意为此付费的客户群体,同时还得让供应商获得10%的投入资本回报率。
moonbox3381
BYD should build their supper charger network world wide or all Chinese car maker cooperate together to do this type great charging speed (I think cooperate will make world better)
比亚迪应该在全球范围内建设超级充电桩网络,或者所有中国汽车制造商联合起来,实现这样的超高速充电(我觉得合作会让世界变得更美好)。
undercoveraca
This signals a future where EVs are more convenient to charge than petrol cars are to fuel. 80% of the time they will just be plugged in to charge like a phone. The other 20% of charges will take no longer than filling up, and the wider variety of charging locations will be more convenient than driving to petrol stations.
这预示着未来电动汽车充电,会比给汽油车加油更加便捷。
80%的情况下,电动汽车就像给手机充电一样,只需插上电源即可。
另外20%的充电情况,耗时也不会比加油时间长,而且更多样化的充电地点将比开车去加油站更方便。
genieb
I am wondering whether we need that much fast charging, considering how most of EV usage/charging is done at home. While I like the fact that EV charging is now faster than filling up with liquid (fossil) fuels, it really is more of a selling point than a real advantage, most of the time. I also think it is necessary to kill part of the FUD/BS around BEVs but still, my question remains.
Don't get me wrong, I would love to be able to charge that fast when I need to, which would be incredibly rare for me most of the year, if at all.
Last time we used fast charging during a road trip, we really didn't need to but it was convenient and the 350 kW Ionity charger near Perth (Scotland) did a great job at top up the battery in a very short time (we hadn't finished our coffee catch-up, so I had to move the car out mid coffee). In the entire month we travelled through Europe, we only needed fast charging about 3 times (in addition to the Ionitiy charge), all in the Netherlands (our apartment didn't have EV charging options yet) and we had FastNed close by.
Despite the capacity of the car and charger it charged much slower than the capacity limit, probably due to local grid (charger wasn't very busy) or something. That is the other thing, charger/charge capacity don't always tell the whole story and in NZ we're seeing batteries as integral part of the fast chargers, resulting in high rates of charge.
Anyway, I do think there are currently more positives than negatives to ultra fast charging infrastructure.
我在想,考虑到大多数电动汽车的使用和充电都是在家里进行的,我们是否真的需要那么快的充电速度呢。虽然我很高兴现在电动汽车的充电速度比加液体(化石)燃料要快,但在大多数时候,这其实更多的是一个卖点,而非真正的优势。
我也认为,有必要消除一些围绕纯电动汽车的恐惧、不确定和怀疑(FUD)以及不实言论,但我的疑问依然存在。
别误会我的意思,如果有需要的话,我当然希望能有那么快的充电速度,不过对我来说,一年中大部分时间里,即便有这种需求,也是极其罕见的。
上次我们在公路旅行中使用了快速充电,其实我们并不是真的需要,只是图个方便。位于苏格兰珀斯附近的350千瓦Ionity充电器在很短的时间内就把电池电量充满了。
在我们游历欧洲的整整一个月里,除了使用Ionity充电之外,我们大概只需要快速充电3次,而且都在荷兰(我们当时住的公寓还没有电动汽车充电设施),好在附近就有FastNed充电站。
尽管汽车和充电器都有一定的充电容量,但实际充电速度却比容量极限慢得多,这可能是由于当地电网的原因(当时充电站并不太忙)或者其他因素。这也说明了另一个问题,充电器的充电容量并不总能说明全部情况。
在新西兰,我们看到电池已成为快速充电器不可或缺的一部分,从而实现了较高的充电速率。
不管怎样,我认为目前超快速充电基础设施的优点要多于缺点。
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